The "baked the cake" comments....

[jsto60]

Gilbert being a bust and then getting no other QB hurt a lot. Offensive line recruiting was just awful and I can't understand how recruiting took the nosedive it did under Mack Brown. This is what the man was KNOWN for. Maybe he thought he was bigger than the program? Who knows. He had it all and let it slip away. He was forgiven for getting crushed by ou when 99.9% of Texas coaches would not have been forgiven (well at least he kept his job lol) because Texas was SO close every year.

Mack had some bad luck with highly ranked players not panning out for sure. But some of that is on him for changing up what was working. He wanted to change to power when he was whipping everyone with the spread. Hell he would have beaten Bama if Colt did not get hurt with a subpar offensive line. He was his own worst enemy.

Nailed it. Mack was sore about the Bama loss and thought he'd copy their power O. But we didn't have the players to do it. Not to mention much of the talent in HS here in the state runs spread O's. When he realized that, he scrapped it and went back to spread. But with inferior staff that he was playing whackamole with to push the blame for mounting losses on others.


All he needed to do was get in a talented and forward thinking new offensive mind to reinvigorate the O. That and one QB behind GG that could have stepped in to play when he didn't pan out.

 

[TexasRoc]

Who is going to require a double team? Orlando bases out of a true 3-4. The Nose is a true 0 and the "ends" are playing a 4i technique. Most of the time he has one of the OLBs near the line of scrimmage in a stand up 5 or 9 technique. I don't know what the depth chart is going to look like but unless something changes most offensive lines can handle those guys 1 on 1 which means you have to bring 5.

We don't need an elite pass rush to win 9 or 10 games. Who in the Big 12 will have a better front seven than Texas? Who in the Big 12 has more talent than Texas? OU is the only one in that conversation. We will only play two teams that can match us in talent next season, and that's USC and OU.

I listed our talent, I'm still waiting on someone to tell me who in the Big 12 has more talent. The talent is there to win 9 or 10 games.

 

[speedstrength]

Front seven I think TCU and OK state might be better although most teams in this league base out of some kind of nickle package. If you can pressure the QB with 4 then you can do lots of things in coverage. A zone coverage will hold up 3 maybe 4 seconds at the most. If you can get to the QB in that time then good things will happen. Orlando is going to find out how tough it is to play defense in this league.

 

[TexasRoc]

Front seven I think TCU and OK state might be better although most teams in this league base out of some kind of nickle package. If you can pressure the QB with 4 then you can do lots of things in coverage. A zone coverage will hold up 3 maybe 4 seconds at the most. If you can get to the QB in that time then good things will happen. Orlando is going to find out how tough it is to play defense in this league.

I doubt either of those teams will have a better front 7. But even if that were true, it still doesn't change my original point...we have the overall talent to win 9 or 10 games.

There are no great teams in the Big 12. There are only two teams on our schedule that can match us in talent. Do you disagree?

 

[speedstrength]

We have a lot of highly ranked guys that haven't produced. Hagar made all Big 12 second team. He could be a Clay Matthews type talent. Malik has all kinds of potential. Roach showed some potential. Freeman started to come along at the end but I don't know if outside of Malik and Hagar if we are that much better in the front 7 than TCU and OK State. So I think USC and OU are probably better than us and we are about as good as TCU and OK State. I really need to hear about how guys develop in the spring before I can really make any definitive decisions.

 

[homeNaway]

It will be interesting to see what Tom Herman does with the Texas football program. We will see soon enough. That is all that matters at this point.

 

[swVAHorn]

We have a lot of highly ranked guys that haven't produced. Hagar made all Big 12 second team. He could be a Clay Matthews type talent. Malik has all kinds of potential. Roach showed some potential. Freeman started to come along at the end but I don't know if outside of Malik and Hagar if we are that much better in the front 7 than TCU and OK State. So I think USC and OU are probably better than us and we are about as good as TCU and OK State. I really need to hear about how guys develop in the spring before I can really make any definitive decisions.

The spring game will be huge this year. After that we can start our annual how many games will we win thread...lol. I agree with your post speed. I think Roach has a higher ceiling than nearly anyone on the Texas roster. That kid has special written all over him. Freeman is the most underrated player on defense I think. He showed up and played well when he was not hurt or on the sideline. I think he will play a lot this coming year. Malik was kind of out of position it seems to me but maybe they needed him in the middle.

The defensive line is going to be a lot better this year just from the freshmen getting to play....but.....our DE's NEED to get pressure more consistently than they have been.

 

[Pumpedup55]

Mack Brown had 3 major problems which lead to his downfall.

1. He neither recruited or developed dominate offensive linemen. Maybe we did get great talent, hard to tell because we never developed them. The last great linemen we developed were part of the 2005 championship team.

2. Not a single great QB after Major left. We were all fooled by Gilbert, not just Mack, but it wasn't our job it was Mack's. I don't know what Mack did or didn't do but we passed on so much QB talent, maybe he did get lucky with Vince and Colt, but that luck ran out.

3. Switching from a spread offense to a power rushing offense and then forgetting to tell our offensive line. That is because we recruited offensive linemen for one type of offense and it wasn't for power running. Mack had a football shoved up his ass by Bama and wanted to land Malcolm Brown so he made promises to Brown that in truth he couldn't keep. That lead to the really bad 2010 season.

When it comes down to it, in the end Mack was much more concerned about salvaging his legacy than winning football games. He expect to win the championship in 2009 and ride off into the sunset, but it didn't happen and from that point forward he was sticking around trying to get that one last good season in, but it never happened. Finally, Texas pulled the plug, just like it did with Fred Akers.

That would have been foolish. Right after we beat Nebraska again in 2009, Mack got a raise from 3.1 Mil to 5.1 Mil. 2 million more per year. Yeah I think he comes back.
That move was deserved but also Odd because we had a coach -in-waiting.

 

[oldhorn2]

I am going to argue that Colt was not only a great QB, but an "all time great" QB. Also....to say we got lucky with Colt and VY???...VY was the number one blue chip QB in the nation. VY could not be stopped in high school and he could not be stopped in College either as soon as the staff figured out to quit trying to change his throwing motion.

Colt was Colt all along. Yeah....he had to RS behind Vince, but who wouldnt have? After VY left, Mack told the team they would have to find a QB to replace him and they all laughed, They said that had already been decided and it was Colt! I also believe that Colt would have come to Texas as a walkon had he not been offered.Lucky my ass!...Those two were always going to be great., and as much as I liked Major, he couldnt carry either one's Jock Strap.

 

[TXSFRED]

I have to agree with this. I don't think he baked the cake, Tom needs to bake the damn thing and rub it down with icing!

I wish somebody had talked D'onta Foreman into staying and them we might have kicked that cake up the rectum of just about everybody next year. I see his leaving has drawn Running Back Interest, so maybe we still can.

Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy new Year to all here.

 

[TXSFRED]

I am going to argue that Colt was not only a great QB, but an "all time great" QB. Also....to say we got lucky with Colt and VY???...VY was the number one blue chip QB in the nation. VY could not be stopped in high school and he could not be stopped in College either as soon as the staff figured out to quit trying to change his throwing motion.

Colt was Colt all along. Yeah....he had to RS behind Vince, but who wouldnt have? After VY left, Mack told the team they would have to find a QB to replace him and they all laughed, They said that had already been decided and it was Colt! I also believe that Colt would have come to Texas as a walkon had he not been offered.Lucky my ass!...Those two were always going to be great., and as much as I liked Major, he couldnt carry either one's Jock Strap.

I don't think Major has to walk up backwards and avoid the eyes of either. He was cheated out of his Senior year and belongs in that triumvirate.

I wish the NFL had had a Coach that knew how to use VY... and Colt...but they don't seem to. I have heard Coach "Chuckie" tell his silly Brother on National TV that he should give Colt a hug ( COlt had just won the second of two games for the Redskins) and start starting him all the time- and even that idiot didn't give Colt any further starts.

 

[speedstrength]

Either Vince didn't like to study the playbook or he couldn't grasp an NFL Offenses. In the NFL tape is not your friend and once coordinators get a hold of enough tape all your weakness are out there and coordinators figured out how to defend him. He couldn't break though with Buffalo, Green Bay or Cleveland at a time when Kapernick, Newton and Wilson were tearing up teams with the Zone Read.

 

[Herman Hermit]

I have been thinking about Strong and his comments....I baked the cake....then at his press conf he said basically the same thing with the comment.....I laid the foundation for great success....

These statements kind of hit me wrong. It is like he is taking credit for future success....or.....He is saying it is not his fault if there is no success.

Am I taking these statements wrong? I kind of hope I am because I like Strong. But it just seems he can't accept his role in the last 3 years.

I thought it was a totally classless statement. He came in with a chip on his shoulder and went out with it still there. I don't think the talent he left was as good as Mack left before Charlie ran off the offensive line and doomed his first two years. I'm glad he's gone. I may use a couple of my season tickets I've had for about forty years.

 

[oldhorn2]

I thought it was a totally classless statement. He came in with a chip on his shoulder and went out with it still there. I don't think the talent he left was as good as Mack left before Charlie ran off the offensive line and doomed his first two years. I'm glad he's gone. I may use a couple of my season tickets I've had for about forty years.

I find this observation to be totally void of knowlege or truth...i.e....short on facts