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Thoughts on the spring game

I'm currently watching the Spring game on youtube and if Shane Buechele isn't starting the 1st game I'd be shocked. The kid looks like he's sure of his throws and every single throw was a spiral (haven't seen that in a while). The throw to Foreman for a TD was money! My biggest concern is our run D, I don't know if it's just because our RB's are so big but it looks so easy to gain 5+ yards on us. Hope they get better as the year goes on.

I'm worried about the run D just because we're so thin on experience at DT (and DE), but not because of any particular plays in the spring game. Check out the defensive personnel on our RBs' best runs. That wasn't the first-team D out there.
 
Part of me almost wants the up-tempo to force more simplified looks and calls from the defense....because all the complication seems to hurt us more than it helps us

But I'm sure our DC would counter being in simple looks with even more checks (somehow) and manage to slow down the players even more

That part is encouraging for Texas winning this game because ND will have no idea what we are going to do as the only film they will have is the spring game, which is limited.
 
This is a very good post but Im still not comfortable starting a freshman QB against ND since I think they would throw the Kitchen sink at him with blitzes,zone changes in the secondary anything to mess up the timing of the offense.If Swoopes cannot move the chains,then bring him in.I would like to redshirt him but that is out of the question and I would prefer to work him in slowly rather than just throw him in the fire.
The problem with starting Swoopes is ND will put 8 in the box and dare Ty to complete passes. If he can't, our two-headed RB monster may struggle. With Buechele at QB, ND has to respect the passing game from the first snap. That means a more even battle in the trenches, which should produce chunks of rushing yards.
 
That part is encouraging for Texas winning this game because ND will have no idea what we are going to do as the only film they will have is the spring game, which is limited.

They will probably get all of the Baylor, Eastern Illinois and Tulsa game film and they will have a pretty good idea of what we are going to run.
 
I'm worried about the run D just because we're so thin on experience at DT (and DE), but not because of any particular plays in the spring game. Check out the defensive personnel on our RBs' best runs. That wasn't the first-team D out there.
Two questions ---- (a) Warren and Foreman had ridiculous yards per carry - is that a reason to get excited about the combo, or a reason to get concerned about the existing DL. (b) Did Buechele really throw 41 passes in one half? How was it timed?
 
That part is encouraging for Texas winning this game because ND will have no idea what we are going to do as the only film they will have is the spring game, which is limited.

We talked about this last year.....but it's pretty hard for a brand new offensive scheme to be an advantage for the offense....since it's almost always a bigger learning curve for the offense running the new scheme than a defense adjusting to it

From a "scheme matchup" standpoint, it will be interesting though:
The very simple against the overly complex.
 
The problem with starting Swoopes is ND will put 8 in the box and dare Ty to complete passes. If he can't, our two-headed RB monster may struggle. With Buechele at QB, ND has to respect the passing game from the first snap. That means a more even battle in the trenches, which should produce chunks of rushing yards.

There is definitely some truth to this

But if you get a couple "freshman mistakes", such as a bad INT, a Fumble, mis-reads/jitters leading to 3-and-outs, or a couple penalties......and could end up hanging a thin/young Defensive Front 7 out to dry
(against an offense that's going built attack them)

The argument for Swoopes in the ND game could conceivably be that he's more likely to move the changes in the run game and keep the offense on the field

But if I were you guys, I'd go with Buchele 100%......he seems much more concerning to me than Swoopes
 
I'm hoping that Stirlin Gilbert can do with Shane Buechele what Sonny Cumbie and Doug Meacham did with Trevone Boykin at TCU. They do that and we should win at least 8 games. But not just TB look at what they did with Josh Doctson. Heck, there could be as many as six players from that TCU offense that will get drafted next week. Unfair or not, I'm going to compare our offensive coaches to what TCU's coaches did two years ago. I hope they notice that our kids can do things that nobody else thought they could do. And not just qb but the whole offense just like Cumbie and Meacham did.
 
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The problem with starting Swoopes is ND will put 8 in the box and dare Ty to complete passes. If he can't, our two-headed RB monster may struggle. With Buechele at QB, ND has to respect the passing game from the first snap. That means a more even battle in the trenches, which should produce chunks of rushing yards.

Then again ND may not try to defense him at all. Maybe they'll see an 18 year old kid and care him to even try and throw the ball. I mean we really don't have any proven receivers.
 
Two questions ---- (a) Warren and Foreman had ridiculous yards per carry - is that a reason to get excited about the combo, or a reason to get concerned about the existing DL. (b) Did Buechele really throw 41 passes in one half? How was it timed?

The RBs had their big gains and the bulk of the yds vs the 2nd team D. Which is depleted on the DL. Incoming frosh will help here. But no doubt it is an issue.

The 1st team D actually stopped the run pretty well. Goes to show we have some players on D. But are very thin in certain areas and counting on frosh to come in and contribute here is an issue.
 
Then again ND may not try to defense him at all. Maybe they'll see an 18 year old kid and care him to even try and throw the ball. I mean we really don't have any proven receivers.

Good point.

When you have an inexperienced QB, a lot of times it is more effective to give him more complicated looks in the secondary than to apply pressure. Then when you do apply pressure like a corner blitz, it's more effective.

You're right about our receivers, we have a lot of talent but not a lot of experience. Burt has proven himself but after that Armanti has been inconsistent and Collin Johnson is a freshman. I really like what we've got, but they lack experience.

Being able to run the ball is key. If we can run effectively, all the passing becomes easier.
 
The problem with starting Swoopes is ND will put 8 in the box and dare Ty to complete passes. If he can't, our two-headed RB monster may struggle. With Buechele at QB, ND has to respect the passing game from the first snap. That means a more even battle in the trenches, which should produce chunks of rushing yards.
If that is the plan,I think Swoopes can burn them given time to throw the ballTry swoopes first ,then Shane.He is a senior and its the first game.
 
All due respect. We already know what Swoopes is as a passer. Hell we already know he isn't burning anything on ND. We saw it a year ago. This year is no different.

Really like the idea of starting Buechele from day 1. He offers hope. Finally someone who can complete a pass. Its only the QBs job to do that, why toss in guys that can't.

Even better. You start him this year. And RS Ehlinger next year. And now you put 2 years between them. And we finally get out of this rut of constantly starting freshman or older guys that suck. By Buecheles JR year, Ehlinger is a RS FR taking backup snaps. And in Buecheles SR year, you mix RS SO Ehlinger in a bit. Then the kid gets two whole years to himself and you groom the next guy. You know, the way it should be done.
 
All due respect. We already know what Swoopes is as a passer. Hell we already know he isn't burning anything on ND. We saw it a year ago. This year is no different.

Really like the idea of starting Buechele from day 1. He offers hope. Finally someone who can complete a pass. Its only the QBs job to do that, why toss in guys that can't.

Even better. You start him this year. And RS Ehlinger next year. And now you put 2 years between them. And we finally get out of this rut of constantly starting freshman or older guys that suck. By Buecheles JR year, Ehlinger is a RS FR taking backup snaps. And in Buecheles SR year, you mix RS SO Ehlinger in a bit. Then the kid gets two whole years to himself and you groom the next guy. You know, the way it should be done.

Yep!
 
That's still an awful big game for true freshman to have his first start. Kinda like to see Swoopes or Heard start. Let Shane see what's going on, and work him in, like around the start of the second quarter. If things are going well, maybe take a little longer to get him, but definitely still get him in. He needs to see action in that game no matter what.
 
Good point.

When you have an inexperienced QB, a lot of times it is more effective to give him more complicated looks in the secondary than to apply pressure. Then when you do apply pressure like a corner blitz, it's more effective.

You're right about our receivers, we have a lot of talent but not a lot of experience. Burt has proven himself but after that Armanti has been inconsistent and Collin Johnson is a freshman. I really like what we've got, but they lack experience.

Being able to run the ball is key. If we can run effectively, all the passing becomes easier.

Isn't the purpose of going fast to deny defenses the time to get into any different look?
 
Isn't the purpose of going fast to deny defenses the time to get into any different look?

I'm sure it would limit the looks a defense can present, to some extent

I think the tempo would be even more important in limiting a defense's ability to change personnel grouping

But if a defense already had it's Nickle or Dime personnel on the field, even an up-tempo offense could be presented with some challenging formations
(I would expect)
 
Up tempo really makes it hard for the defense to disguise coverages so the QB gets a really clean presnap read and should know where to go with the ball. The width of the has makes it almost impossible to disguise coverages to the wide side of the field if the ball is spotted on the hash. You can do a few things into the boundary but here is the challenge. Up tempo the ball is snapped almost as soon as the offense is set. The D may have 2-3 seconds to recognize the formation and set the coverage and pressures. That's why most have an automatic check when a team goes tempo and that gives the QB a really good idea of where to go with the ball. But in the end players still have to make plays.
 
I'm sure it would limit the looks a defense can present, to some extent

I think the tempo would be even more important in limiting a defense's ability to change personnel grouping

But if a defense already had it's Nickle or Dime personnel on the field, even an up-tempo offense could be presented with some challenging formations
(I would expect)
Go with a base nickel, and Baylor runs it all day. More and bigger blockers vs. defenders. I assume that will be Gilbert's modus operandi with Warren and Foreman.
 
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Go with a base nickel, and Baylor runs it all day. More and bigger blockers vs. defenders. I assume that will be Gilbert's modus operandi with Warren and Foreman.

That's why you need a DL that can win at the point of attack against a spread team (which is what forces you into the nickle) and your NB needs to be able to play the run well

Overall, I think ND wins this kind of match-up due to the strength of their DL against the run
(which will free up the DB's to play the pass)

I'd expect us to go with a "Big Dime" look on early downs, something along the lines of
SDE - Isaac Rochell (6'4" , 285lbs)
DT
- Jerry Tillery (6'6", 320lbs)
NT
- Jarron Jones (6'6", 320lbs)
WDE
- J. Hayes (6'3", 285lbs)
MLB
- Morgan (6'1", 245lbs)
Star
- Drue Tranquil (6'2", 225lbs) - Hybrid SS / OLB
Nickle - Shaun Crawfor (5'8", 185lbs)
CB
- Cole Luke (6'0", 195lbs)
CB
- Nick Watkins (6'0", 200lbs)
FS
- Devin Studstill (6'0", 200lbs)
SS
- Max Redfield (6'1", 210lbs)

On more obvious passing downs, I'd like to see us switch to a lighter DL and get more pass rushers onto the field
 
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