I’m allowed to. I’m just a fan. I doubt any coach at OU will allow any player at OU to be over confident, though.
But, feel free to enlighten me on why UCLA is going to make it hard on OU to win.
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But, feel free to enlighten me on why UCLA is going to make it hard on OU to win.
Does UCLA have a running QB? I don't know who's replacing the Rosen. Running QBs have always given M.Stoops fits. Depends on who C.Kelly has behind center.
Yeah, I'm not sure. Other QBs that give Stoops trouble? Non-running QBs. QBs that can throw. QBs that can't throw. Wheelchair QBs...hell, arm chair QBs. RBs converted to QBs. WRs converted to QBs. DT's converted...
I dont like picking my team to win by 3 tds, especially in week 1 against a good team. I dont think OU will be in any danger of losing but I do believe they have enough talent and a decent enough system to make it look competitive for a while. A good qb, good rb and a real good LB.
They still have Kiffin, and that solid rb. QB should be decent. They wont beat OU but i bet they look like a decent team.
You see how bad ucla was last year? And that's with a nfl quality qb. It's not overconfidence if you are doubting ucla in 2018. But they'll still be a decent team, they recruit decently enough to be competitive.
Ehlinger didnt give him all that much of a big fit.
Ehlinger rushed for 385 yards on the season. One third of those came against OU. So...no.
Sure but qbs are supposed to challenge you through the air. He completed less than 50% of his throws all game and only completed 1 of his final 4 passes in the last two drives when it mattered most.
Yeah, and he was fresh outta high school. Yeah, he was terrible at times, as freshmen will be. Yet he was still one busted coverage away from beating your heisman winner. Keep thumping your chest.
When it mattered most. Your words. That's really rich coming from a sooner. Kinda reminds me of the OK/GA game.
Oh and btw they had a link on here a few days ago that listed the top 20 Heisman candidates. Guess what? Rodney Anderson was not listed. Bryce Love is the leading candidate. That was the guy you called a good little rb. Little rb? tell that to the Pac XII or ND players if he's a good little rb see what they say.
Tell that to the Army QB who threw like 10 passes all year last year. QBs are supposed to help their team win. They're supposed to execute the plays the coach gives them. Sometimes, that's passing. Mike Stoops has trouble on several types of QBs, most notably running QBs. And QBs that are starting their first game ever. Somehow, we make second team QBs Heisman front runners (see Baylor and Iowa State last year).
I'm done. Respond if you want. We'll just agree to disagree on this.
Im not "thumping" anything, I made an observation about ehlinger and his effectiveness. And qbs dont beat qbs, they dont play against each other. He was one busted coverage away from beating a bad defense.
I mean that's fine n all but that game has nothing to do with the RRR.
I saw another list of elite offensive minds and Riley wasnt on that list either. Should we be taking these lists to the bank?
I understand Love is the leading candidate, and i dont care if Anderson is a candidate in august or not. Lol, come on meow, how does that even matter? His performance on the field will speak for itself like it did last year when he lead the country in yards from scrimmage after his first start. Some people on that list wont be on that list in october, but Anderson will be.
I wonder if when they play a team with a pulse (like Ohio state) if they think that matters? Cause they got their asses beat when they played a real team. And of course, sure, if you run the triple option you dont need a qb who can beat you with his arm. I dont get how you can try to defend ehlinger's lack of passing prowess by citing a team who runs a triple option. I mean hell man ehlinger might be an incredible triple option qb, but he's not and he's just an average passer in the big 12. You wont be winning the big 12 with average at that position, just my opinion.
Anyway I get all that, but his lack of passing efficiency was very helpful for a very beatable OU defense going down the stretch. And we thank him for it.
He was outcoached badly in the 2nd half of that Rose Bowl. Yes, Riley has put up large #s against teams not as good as OU but against a comparable team he came up short. I'd tap the brakes on calling him elite.
He couldn't move the ball with 3.5 minutes left in the bowl game with the ball and up 7 points. That should've been a win for you but he couldn't seal it. Couldn't move it in 2 OTs either.
NFL teams come calling and pick his brain. his offenses have paced the country while at OU and ECU. Pump the brakes? he's only been coaching the best offense in the country since he came to Norman. Remember how bad OU's offense was before Riley? I do. I do very well. 2nd half of the rose bowl doesnt take away from anything, and the 1st half performance was something no team in the country came close to doing against georgia last year. They had their way with ohio state's top 10 defense too. So you dont have to agree, its not necessary, but he's absolutely an elite offensive mind.
If you say so. He couldn't move the ball at the end of the game and in 2 overtimes with a berth in the national title game on the line. If that's not crunch time, I don't know what is. And he didn't get it done with the Heisman winner and #1 overall draft pick behind center.
Until Georgia made halftime adjustments. And Riley couldn't adjust. Flat outcoached in that 2nd half. You don't have to agree with that. Simply fact.
It's not just me saying so. I'm not suggesting it didnt matter, but it does not take away from what he's already proven. Is it possible for a rookie head coach to improve? I would imagine he like most head coaches will learn from his mistakes and be better for it. Nobody can be expected to make 100% of the calls the right way 100% of the time, its just not possible. But he's made a living being an offensive mastermind and OU will be a top offense in the country again.
I will say that Riley seems to me to be pretty elite in terms of OC's. It'll be interesting to see the schemes he uses this year to utilize Murray's abilities.
There seems to be a million way too early lists out, here is another one I just googled. Some have Jalen Hurts as a projected contender. Now I'm not saying Anderson will win the Heisman but based on production from last year he could very well parlay that into some post season recognition of some sort Imo, or not. https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...odds-alabama-qb-tua-tagovailoa-among-leaders/
You forgot one, QB's converted to MLB only to be forced back into action at QB due to injuries at QB.
There was no apology. And yes you can have it both ways, even masterminds do occasionally act human and get beat. Saban is a defensive mastermind and his #1 overall defense giving up 248 ypg gave up 500 yards in a loss to Clemson in the NC game.
Maybe there should've been then. He had the ball with 3.5 minutes left up 7. Then had a chance in OT#1. Then had yet another chance in OT#2.
And he blew it.
Sure. Not intellectually honest. But sure.
Nothing to apologize for.
Of course it's intellectually honest and I cited a very good example
Blowing a game he had in hand? Mkay.
Yes, comparing Riley to Saban is definitely honest.
Why would I apologize for that?
Yes it is because One is a defensive mastermind who has proven to be fallible. The other is an offensive mastermind who has proven to be fallible.
Wait - are you equating a guy with 6 national titles to a guy with zero?
No im not equating anything. Im saying you can have it both ways; Suggesting that one can be a mastermind (of offense or of defense) and still be fallible and get beat. Scholz suggested that it cant be both and I disagreed.
Here's the worst part. Because of the stinking Aggies and their love of the SEC, I actually resolved to root for the Sooners and the Big XII in the playoffs. This was an absolute first And for a half, I was rewarded. But that 2nd half ---- Mayfield was AWFUL, the defense disappeared, and the Sooners had NO answers. Taught me a valuable lesson - stick with the hate. Nothing worse than being disappointed by a team you loathe.
You were already damaged goods coming off the monumental collapse of your program, you’re probably much more emotional right now than the average fan. It’ll pass, hang in there, buddy.
I'm not spinning anything, just saying Riley is an elite offensive mind and the rose bowl doesnt change that. Just like how saban's #1 defense gave up over 500 yards and got beat, didnt change his prowess as a defensive guru.
