Trump Designates Mexican Cartels as Terrorist Organizations
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I have a pretty good idea as to our capabilities......Wow,
You don't seem to grasp our capabilities.
PS, #1 industry in Mexico is drug smuggling, I'd love it if America wasn't addicted to drugs but talk to Mexico about them making themselves great.
If Elon Musk can launch a rocket into space and have it return exactly to the same spot it was launched from....... then our government can send bombs and missiles to a target with the same or greater accuracy.
The government always gets to do the cool stuff first.
GPS technology was being used by our military since 1968...... but we civilians weren't given access to it until 1993.
And yes, if the SecDef and POTUS took the cuffs off of just our SpecOps community, we'd own Mexico in a matter of a week.
But we won't be able to fight this war that way. It's going to have to be done with clandestine assets.
And trying to win a war- when you're sneaking around at night, trying not to make a sh!t ton of noise- is tough to do.
Trump signing that EO has probably already made some of these cartel bosses paranoid. But after a few of them wash up on shore, or disappear out of their beds- the fear of God will start setting in.
@GuaranteedFresh! battle buddy---let's DO THIS bro.
Totes serious. I need about 60 days to get into elbows and ass-holes shape. Get your DD214 out. They'd give you hazard pay. It's only a matter of time before we start bringing in the air assets and things get spicy.
Totes serious. I need about 60 days to get into elbows and ass-holes shape. Get your DD214 out. They'd give you hazard pay. It's only a matter of time before we start bringing in the air assets and things get spicy.
Ok Fresh. If Trump were to actually take the leash of the dogs, what’s the over / under on timeframe before the cartels are on the extinction list?
Immediate compounding results. We'll never eliminate them entirely because there will always be a power vacuum until other governments fight internally.
Taaaaah-daaaaaah!
It's arrived. What I've been waiting for. A Senator (Mike Lee) finally got smart and read his history books and is now thinking about issuing something called a "letter of marque and reprisal".
@freeper
Would you please come to the front of the class and explain what a "letter of marque and reprisal" is, and how WE, the private citizens of the great state of Texas, could use this hall pass to wage our own little private war against cartel members?
(Oh joy! We get to hear the history teacher teach history!)
It's arrived. What I've been waiting for. A Senator (Mike Lee) finally got smart and read his history books and is now thinking about issuing something called a "letter of marque and reprisal".
@freeper
Would you please come to the front of the class and explain what a "letter of marque and reprisal" is, and how WE, the private citizens of the great state of Texas, could use this hall pass to wage our own little private war against cartel members?
(Oh joy! We get to hear the history teacher teach history!)
Dude-- I'm literally sitting here at my desk refreshing this page every 5 minutes waiting on @freeper to lay out his lesson plan on this.
This is going to be so cool.
All you slackers out there, pay attention.
You have all heard of Sir Francis Drake. Those of you with a keener interest in maritime affairs will also be familiar with the names Sir John Hawkins, Sir Martin Frobisher and Sir Walter Raleigh. All of these men sailed for England in the 16th Century, during the Elizabethan period and all of them received Letters of Marque. You see Elizabeth I is now recognized as one of the great women of history, largely because she sorted out the financial mess she inherited from her dad, (Henry VIII anyone?) and also because she was the monarch who oversaw the defeat of the Spanish Armada. Remember that under Henry VIII, England and Spain were tied together in an alliance based on Henry's marriage to the Spanish princess, Catherine of Aragon. Sadly, Catherine never produced a male heir, Hank goes to the Pope looking for a divorce, doesn't get it, and pulls the plug on Catholicism and his marriage.
These actions on the part of Henry VIII led to a split in English-Spanish relations. Of course, while all of Henry's extracurricular activities were going on, he was fully informed on the rising economic power of Spain, being drawn out of the gold and silver mines in the New World. When Hank was allied with the Spanish, it hadn't been a big deal, but now, 40 years down the road, Elizabeth is on the throne, and she is well aware of Spanish wealth and her own need for funds from any source. This leads to the issue of letters of marque, a thin veneer of legality that basically sanctions piracy on behalf of the state. You get a letter, the state will turn a blind eye towards your activities as long as you are preying on the enemy, are following certain rules, and of course, that you acknowledge the government has a right to take a cut of any "prize" taken.
Sir Francis Drake was probably the most successful pirate in history, but since he had a "commission" or letter of marque, we don't view him that way. He raided Spanish shipping along the Caribbean, the Atlantic and the Pacific Coasts. He seized the equivalent of millions of dollars in precious cargos, primarily gold and silver but plenty of gems as well. Much of the Spanish wealth being pulled out of the Americas, ended up in the Queen's coffers. This was the beginning of the modern, aggressive Royal Navy. It can be said that our modern world, which owes so much to the institutional success of the Royal, and later, the US Navy, was founded on the letter of marque.
You start giving those letters out to the right Americans, and the body count south of the Rio is going to go up. I can just picture @clob94 and @GuaranteedFresh! plying the Gulf of America in a Bayliner outfitted with a Ma Deuce and looking for narco-subs. With so many billions of drug money at stake, much of it in cash piles that Americans have long seen in the news, a return to the practice of Letters of Marque an Reprisal might not be a bad thing. This concludes my history lesson for the day. Any questions?
For those interested, I highly recommend Arthur Herman's "To Rule the Waves: How the British Navy Shaped the Modern World". A great read that will make you a believer in the need for a powerful maritime presence.
These actions on the part of Henry VIII led to a split in English-Spanish relations. Of course, while all of Henry's extracurricular activities were going on, he was fully informed on the rising economic power of Spain, being drawn out of the gold and silver mines in the New World. When Hank was allied with the Spanish, it hadn't been a big deal, but now, 40 years down the road, Elizabeth is on the throne, and she is well aware of Spanish wealth and her own need for funds from any source. This leads to the issue of letters of marque, a thin veneer of legality that basically sanctions piracy on behalf of the state. You get a letter, the state will turn a blind eye towards your activities as long as you are preying on the enemy, are following certain rules, and of course, that you acknowledge the government has a right to take a cut of any "prize" taken.
Sir Francis Drake was probably the most successful pirate in history, but since he had a "commission" or letter of marque, we don't view him that way. He raided Spanish shipping along the Caribbean, the Atlantic and the Pacific Coasts. He seized the equivalent of millions of dollars in precious cargos, primarily gold and silver but plenty of gems as well. Much of the Spanish wealth being pulled out of the Americas, ended up in the Queen's coffers. This was the beginning of the modern, aggressive Royal Navy. It can be said that our modern world, which owes so much to the institutional success of the Royal, and later, the US Navy, was founded on the letter of marque.
You start giving those letters out to the right Americans, and the body count south of the Rio is going to go up. I can just picture @clob94 and @GuaranteedFresh! plying the Gulf of America in a Bayliner outfitted with a Ma Deuce and looking for narco-subs. With so many billions of drug money at stake, much of it in cash piles that Americans have long seen in the news, a return to the practice of Letters of Marque an Reprisal might not be a bad thing. This concludes my history lesson for the day. Any questions?
For those interested, I highly recommend Arthur Herman's "To Rule the Waves: How the British Navy Shaped the Modern World". A great read that will make you a believer in the need for a powerful maritime presence.
So I knew the correct reasoning to @clob94 's post but couldn't remember how or why. I guess that's why I didn't go the intellectual route in life. We'll done @freeper .
Definitely not down with imitating Jack Sparrow in cold water but if the price is right, land based night ops remains on the table. Check on some snake guards Clob, we might get to go play whack-a-mole.
Totally unrelated but almost, kinda. I did once find a taped brick of herb washed up on Padre Island around the 30mm. Had the turtle patrol radio park police to retrieve it. Before anyone asks, it wasn't sealed water proof.
Definitely not down with imitating Jack Sparrow in cold water but if the price is right, land based night ops remains on the table. Check on some snake guards Clob, we might get to go play whack-a-mole.
Totally unrelated but almost, kinda. I did once find a taped brick of herb washed up on Padre Island around the 30mm. Had the turtle patrol radio park police to retrieve it. Before anyone asks, it wasn't sealed water proof.
I knew you'd know it forwards and back.
The US government has issued these before-- back in the 1800s-- but I'm wondering if they did so only for sea going vessels-- or if this applied to land as well.
I'm in. Stalking elk is boring. Shooting deer under a feeder is worse.
And Fresh- I'll even carry that stupid 20 pound SOFLAM for you..... but you gotta carry the backup batts....they don't still use those do they? Haven't they found a hand held version by now?
Anything you have to mount on a tripod just suuuuuuuucks.
Awesome post, your students are lucky to have you as a teacher.
Well Congress certainly tried to give Biden's dumbass that power against the Russians. I don't remember if the Bill passed or not. It was 21 or 22...fuzzy memory.
And then of course the ant-air piracy act of 02. Sponsored by our beloved Ron Paul. It never made it to vote.
Man, I'm going to have to go back and look how many times (successfully or otherwise) Congress has tried to give the Executive that authority.
Ha, I don't think the CBP has the capability to hit a laced target just yet so probably not something that'll get issued out to mercs.
IF that were to be the case, you'd be getting of easy because the newer model in the late 20-teens got lighter, doesn't eat 5 batts & is more efficient.
Besides all that, you seem to be the type that would get your rocks off to danger close cas anyways. Who says it HAS to be a proportional response? The bigger the better. Lol
