To Nebraska, Michigan, Texas, USC, Penn St, Florida St and Notre Dame? We’re not the only football program that hasn’t been a power house in quite some time.
What happened?
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My opinion is that the SEC got real smart and branded themselves in a way (with ESPN and other outlets) that the best football is played there. Add Satan at Bama and it really made that believable. I know a few top end D1 recruits that wanted to go to Texas and OU but went SEC just because they felt if they could make it in the SEC then they could play NFL ball. That was a real mindset.
Just for sh!ts and giggles, imagine life in cfb without him coaching. His entire roster is predominantly 5* & 4* recruits. If 2/3 of those recruits decided to go elsewhere, that’s a huge impact on the cfb landscape IMO. If we had landed just the Brockenmeyer bros for the Oline, how would that have affected us?
I don’t think it’s one thing. All those programs have different issues. Nebraska created a lot of Nebraska’s issues. USC both before and after the Pete Carroll years struggled so their struggles aren’t surprising.
Nebraska is easy. There used to be 200 farm boys show up every year to walk on. Imagine being able to keep your 2nd and 3rd team fresh by using those walk ons as tackling dummies. Then, every year, one if those walk ons jumps up and becomes all conference or all-amerucan because for the first time in their life they're actually training with weights, not tossing hay.
Big Agricultural killed Nebraska.
They are all programs that used to be good, but that’s where their similarities end. They all have different issues.
ND and PS are close. But in the case of the other schools they just didn't hire good coaches.
MI is pounding their chest talking tough because they beat WA on national tv. However WA is sliding downhill fast.
Maybe SC needs a high profile personality like Pete Carroll to succeed.
Mike Novak is going to be a disaster at FSU. I'm glad Bobby Bowden won't be around to watch this.
And we're on our 3rd coach in the last 9 years.
Hiring good coaches solves a lot of problems.
MI is pounding their chest talking tough because they beat WA on national tv. However WA is sliding downhill fast.
Maybe SC needs a high profile personality like Pete Carroll to succeed.
Mike Novak is going to be a disaster at FSU. I'm glad Bobby Bowden won't be around to watch this.
And we're on our 3rd coach in the last 9 years.
Hiring good coaches solves a lot of problems.
Joining the BIG12 with no more partial qualifiers or non-qualifiers killed Nebraska. They loaded up with sub 80 IQ dudes from California & Florida during all but the end of the Osbourne era. Being able to take guys the other heavyweights couldn't was an enormous advantage.
I think the walk-on story just sounded better to the media than saying half the team was eligible for the Special Olympics.
I think the walk-on story just sounded better to the media than saying half the team was eligible for the Special Olympics.
Steroid testing and not being able to accept partial and non qualifiers killed Nebraska.
Ummm
Notre Dame the last five years:
2021 - 12
2020 - 4
2019 - 12
2018 - 5
2017 - 11
I’m not sure they belong on this list.
Notre Dame the last five years:
2021 - 12
2020 - 4
2019 - 12
2018 - 5
2017 - 11
I’m not sure they belong on this list.
Since 1993 ND has not won a single P6 level bowl game and none of them were even close something like 0/9. And there's a saying about ND coaches those who and those who don't and they're referring to nc's. It's been 33 years now.
Yeah I thought Rattler got outplayed by the Nebraska QB. It's crazy how out-of-control the hype machine got for him during the offseason.
Riley's teams have tended to get stronger as the year goes on, and that better happen again this year, or we probably won't even win the conference. Defense is a little better than last year, but I don't think our offense is quite as good.
RRR is going to be quite a battle. Just a few weeks away!
Not sure how not winning a P6 level bowl tops being in the College Football Playoff. To me, it doesn’t. ND has had two top five finishes in the last four years.
No biggie. We’ll just agree to disagree.
The draft boards I've seen this week have Rattler going 1st round?
He’s a QB if your breathing you’ll go in the first round but he was seen as a top pick. Now it’s mid to late first. Quite the fall.
Hey @MiccoMacey what's up with Austin Stogner? It doesn't seem like he's been involved much this year. Is he injured?
Here's the deal, as much as OU fans would like him to stay and win 2 more Heisman's, we have a log jam of 5* Qb's. Rattler has to go to the draft this year because no way Caleb Williams is going to ride pine next year, he'll hit the portal imo and then 5* Malachi Nelson coming in in the spring
You will be reintroduced to Stogner this coming Saturday, probably in the endzone. Big target, good hands. If you were up to date on OU you'd know Stogner developed a life threatening strep infection last year from a deep thigh bruise. Lost 35 pounds but is back healthy. Here's a link to bring you up to speed.
https://www.si.com/college/oklahoma...ogner-is-now-healthy-fit-and-better-than-ever
I think you OU fans probably need to forget about the Heisman. Bijan has a better chance at the Heisman than Spencer as we stand today
There are several factors that killed the Huskers. Number one was leaving the conference, cutting their ties to most Texas recruits. But a close 2nd was when the NCAA put limits on the number of players you could have at practice. For a couple of decades, high school players, primarily from Nebraska walked on in Lincoln with little hope of ever playing. But they were being loyal to the state school. The Huskers had much higher practice player numbers, which allowed them to put together so many scout team players, that their top 80 players didn't have to be on a scout team. Some were, but many weren't. They could have guys who only worked on the other teams' stuff.
It allowed their guys who were going to play on Saturday to focus totally on their game prep. And they could alternate scout team players to provide many more reps each week for their game prep than you can get with typical numbers. But the NCAA put the kibosh on it a couple of decades ago. Put everybody on a total limit of shipped players and walk ons. Something in the low hundreds. They lost an advantage they'd had since the scholarship limits kicked in, during the mid 70's.
I'm told that with COVID, it went back up to 125, though.
It allowed their guys who were going to play on Saturday to focus totally on their game prep. And they could alternate scout team players to provide many more reps each week for their game prep than you can get with typical numbers. But the NCAA put the kibosh on it a couple of decades ago. Put everybody on a total limit of shipped players and walk ons. Something in the low hundreds. They lost an advantage they'd had since the scholarship limits kicked in, during the mid 70's.
I'm told that with COVID, it went back up to 125, though.
I agree with you but the biggest reason is that every coach since Tom Osborne was a bum. I mean they gave Bo Pellini 8 years. A good coach would have adjusted to the new rules.
Frank Solich says hello. Come on @outhereincali Some of your posts make it seem like you just started watching college football last weekend. Cornhuskers rue the day they cut Solich loose.
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