Zaire

[bubba2023]

Criticizing the pursuit of Zaire has no rational basis other than just being a hater. The idea that no one wants him is ridiculous. He'll easily find a landing spot and it will probably be at a program that has more wins than Texas the past few years.

Hell why do we need 85 scholarship players any ways. If the starting 22 are as good as they say they are, then we should be fine. The inefficiency of Herman is astounding.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

It's so much easier to sit and say this won't work before it even happens than to say this is going to work. If Herman turns into a big turd the guys that keep posting that he's not the guy can easily say "I told you so". If Herman turns into a winning coach and gives us NC's the crow is so much easier to eat plus it's your team/school so it feels even better. I like what Herman seems to be implementing. Could it be all rah rah BS possibly but I can't dog the guy for coming in and attempting to change the mind set. Let it play out first before we start saying he's a big loser.

 

[oldhorn2]

I wanted rid of Mack so bad, I would have been OK with picking a name out of a hat.When CS got here I bought in 100%. I loved what he was doing even when I started seeing that he did not know what he was doing.

Enter Herman and I love what he is doing. I amvery worried about his ability to recruit, but I cling to the hope and expectation that winning will cure everything.I have been in Koolaide recovery since last October, but I no longer attend meetings, and feel myself backsliding into addiction.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

I wanted rid of Mack so bad

There's a saying "Watch out what you wish for"! Which I'm sure every adult here has heard over time. I remember wanting a change but I don't continue on bashing Mack because of 3 seasons that Strong coached.

 

[bubba2023]

There's a saying "Watch out what you wish for"! Which I'm sure every adult here has heard over time. I remember wanting a change but I don't continue on bashing Mack because of 3 seasons that Strong coached.

Mack needed to go regardless of who was to be hired next, but the Mack bashing reached ridiculous levels. Hopefully this fan base now understands it actually takes a really good coach to win consistently at this level and those guys are few and far between.

 

[oldhorn2]

There's a saying "Watch out what you wish for"! Which I'm sure every adult here has heard over time. I remember wanting a change but I don't continue on bashing Mack because of 3 seasons that Strong coached.

I think there were 2 coach Macks....the one before 2009 and the one after. The one before saved the program....the one after sucked badly.

Yeah the three years under CS were awful, but I believe that had Mack stayed on, 2014,2015 and 2016 would have been horrible. Mack had not only stopped coaching by then , but he had stopped recruiting as well.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Good coaches adapt their system to the players they have. I hope that Herrman realize that Shane and Sam probably can't handle the load from a run standpoint and adapts accordingly.

 

[bubba2023]

I think there were 2 coach Macks....the one before 2009 and the one after. The one before saved the program....the one after sucked badly.

Yeah the three years under CS were awful, but I believe that had Mack stayed on, 2014,2015 and 2016 would have been horrible. Mack had not only stopped coaching by then , but he had stopped recruiting as well.

I agree although the rot started before 2009. Mack Brown took recruiting to a completely different level early on. Even in his later years his recruiting was fine, his evaluations and development were terrible. During those later years a lot of our guys looked the exact same the day they left as the day they got here.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

Why in the hell would we need ND's throw offs?

So back to the topic before I threw it off. Because we need depth at QB it's that simple and he's an experienced mature young man.

 

[CAHorn47]

FB,You could be right and you could be dead wrong,I see a strong intensity and direction from Herman along with the coaching staff,far removed from the CS regime.He has a plan,expected level of play and intends to make it work like at Ohio state and Houston.There was a time DKR had 3 6-4 seasons in a row and some Texas fans wanted to run him out of town.Like Hermans demeanor or not its only fair to give him chance.

I remember those seasons, Cotton. My FR and SO years. Lots of folks wanted DKR gone. Luckily, they didn't succeed and my JR and SR years were much more enjoyable (Nattys).

 

[oldhorn2]

yeah...I was there for those three 6-4 seasons, but I dont remember even one peep about wanting Royal gone....I still think the best team of the bunch was that 68 squad that went 9-1-1( they started with a loss to UH and a tie to TT...then Streeet replaced Bradley at QB...Bradley moved to safety and we didnt lose again for 30 straight games.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Criticizing the pursuit of Zaire has no rational basis other than just being a hater. The idea that no one wants him is ridiculous. He'll easily find a landing spot and it will probably be at a program that has more wins than Texas the past few years.

Hell why do we need 85 scholarship players any ways. If the starting 22 are as good as they say they are, then we should be fine. The inefficiency of Herman is astounding.

I have noticed a lot of you are using the word Hate, its a total shame to yourself for even having that word in your Vocab, Hate is a disease that no one should catch!

Hook'em

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

yeah...I was there for those three 6-4 seasons, but I dont remember even one peep about wanting Royal gone....I still think the best team of the bunch was that 68 squad that went 9-1-1( they started with a loss to UH and a tie to TT...then Streeet replaced Bradley at QB...Bradley moved to safety and we didnt lose again for 30 straight games.

Thats because they was playing FB , not politics and "Swing Door coaching and the players was full of Heart!, now days everyones wondering how long till I get to NFL?Half of them won't make it pass the tryouts



Hook'em

 

[RoboCocks21]

Hey @FlourBluffHorn I can say I hate blowu right?

 

[Cotton #12]

yeah...I was there for those three 6-4 seasons, but I dont remember even one peep about wanting Royal gone....I still think the best team of the bunch was that 68 squad that went 9-1-1( they started with a loss to UH and a tie to TT...then Streeet replaced Bradley at QB...Bradley moved to safety and we didnt lose again for 30 straight games.

You might want to watch the movie "My All American" which shows the life of Freddy Steinmark and the pressure Royal was under in that time period,in fact,any real Texas fan would like and enjoy the movie.

 

[CoachEmUp64]

This thread is exactly why I post here. Great reading while I'm sitting at my desk drinking coffee. That is all. Carry on....

 

[oldhorn2]

Cotton....I am the fartherest thing from someone with inside info....but from my perspective, as a rabid Horn FB fan, I simply do not remember DKR being under ANY pressure other than what he put on himself. I think the film might have embellished that part to add drama.(wait...Hollywood doesnt do that do they?)

The thing about those 6-4 years....You have to remember that DKR had brought Texas their first Natty ever in 63.They also came close in 61 and 62 (refer to the TCU cockroach quote from DKR)
Not only that but in65 Texas was ranked #1 until a loss to Arky.(OU was a non factor in the 60's, which was why DKR was hired) If I am not mistaken. Texas was at least ranked in the top 10 at some point in 1966 as well. You also have to remember that Texas was mostly a non factor Nationally until DKR showed up.

I realize that I dont remember things as well as I once did, but I am fairly confident that what I said there would stand up to MR Google.

I will accecpt whatever input we get from FB as the final authority. Seriously, he WAS somewhat connected.....He knew Rooster Andrews.

 

[TXSFRED]

You've already concluded that Herman isn't the one based on press conferences? If that's the measure of how great a coach can be, the Pats should have fired Bill Belichick 17 years ago.

Now that is a truism.

Who would have ever thought an Okie QB and DB who believed mainly in three yards and a cloud of dust would be the man all UT Coaches will be compared with and found wanting FOREVER. A guy that would end an extreme struggle with Arkansas with a pass play... and as legend has it, the QB all UT Qbs are compared to - as he started back onto the field - returned and asked Coach Royal, "Coach, are you sure?" as he claimed he could not even put spiral on a football...

I was watching that day and was cussing Coach Royal for breathing GOD's Oxygen and wasting it ( NO passing - three yds and a cloud of dust - *&&^^%$#%#%#@&^^- LOSER.) My wife left the house as she was tired of hearing all the screaming. SHE still remembers that day.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Cotton....I am the fartherest thing from someone with inside info....but from my perspective, as a rabid Horn FB fan, I simply do not remember DKR being under ANY pressure other than what he put on himself. I think the film might have embellished that part to add drama.(wait...Hollywood doesnt do that do they?)

The thing about those 6-4 years....You have to remember that DKR had brought Texas their first Natty ever in 63.They also came close in 61 and 62 (refer to the TCU cockroach quote from DKR)
Not only that but in65 Texas was ranked #1 until a loss to Arky.(OU was a non factor in the 60's, which was why DKR was hired) If I am not mistaken. Texas was at least ranked in the top 10 at some point in 1966 as well. You also have to remember that Texas was mostly a non factor Nationally until DKR showed up.

I realize that I dont remember things as well as I once did, but I am fairly confident that what I said there would stand up to MR Google.

I will accecpt whatever input we get from FB as the final authority. Seriously, he WAS somewhat connected.....He knew Rooster Andrews.

Cotton....I am the fartherest thing from someone with inside info....but from my perspective, as a rabid Horn FB fan, I simply do not remember DKR being under ANY pressure other than what he put on himself. I think the film might have embellished that part to add drama.(wait...Hollywood doesnt do that do they?)

The thing about those 6-4 years....You have to remember that DKR had brought Texas their first Natty ever in 63.They also came close in 61 and 62 (refer to the TCU cockroach quote from DKR)
Not only that but in65 Texas was ranked #1 until a loss to Arky.(OU was a non factor in the 60's, which was why DKR was hired) If I am not mistaken. Texas was at least ranked in the top 10 at some point in 1966 as well. You also have to remember that Texas was mostly a non factor Nationally until DKR showed up.

I realize that I dont remember things as well as I once did, but I am fairly confident that what I said there would stand up to MR Google.

I will accecpt whatever input we get from FB as the final authority. Seriously, he WAS somewhat connected.....He knew Rooster Andrews.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2012/11/14/3647700/julius-whittier-darrell-royal-
changing-the-face-of-texas-football


I have been a writer most of my life. I love to tell stories.

But for the first time, I have been battling a case of writer's block.

Tuesday there was a public memorial at the Frank Erwin Center at noon for Longhorn Legend Darrell Royal. The swirl of emotions engendered by his passing, ranging from melancholy to reverie and celebration, will continue unabated for quite sometime.

I consider myself among the lucky ones. I not only got to watch Coach Royal in his prime, I was able to do so from a front row seat as a reporter-broadcaster. I also consider myself fortunate as a writer/editor for Barking Carnival because it can serve as an outlet for my (sometimes) self-indulgent stream of consciousness. This time it is about the man who ushered in the modern era of Texas football, and who did so without succumbing to any kind of cult of personality that has overwhelmed other programs.


During this off-week I had planned to post several retrospectives. These were not delving into particular seasons, games or plays. Instead they were to be a blend of historical information and personal anecdotes that I had hoped would paint a picture of a complex, fully human and fascinating individual who created a Culture of Excellence that extends throughout the program even today. The idea was to take a look at how Royal changed the landscape at Texas by bringing the mindset of a Chief Executive Officer to the football team, leading the University through the transformation into an elite, "modern" program.

The first few sections came relatively smoothly.

Then - nothing.

Like many other educational systems throughout the South and Southwest, the University of Texas has a checkered past when it comes to integration. In 1956, Dr. Logan Wilson opened all academic programs at the University of Texas to black students, making it the first university system in the South to integrate.


However, The Texas Board of Regents continually voted to keep athletics segregated citing "deference to the climate of opinion operative at the time." Finally on November 9, 1963, the board voted unanimously to approve the desegregation of all student activities at Texas, "including varsity athletics."

University dorms were not desegregated until 1964. It wasn't until 1965 that the University Interscholastic League removed the word "white" as a membership requirement for participating schools.

This was the climate that Royal entered in 1957.



He was 1 of the Main Politicos in Texas, I think Jamil was the power behind Royal since they went back to 63 and he was a close friend of Willie as well, All Royal had to answer to was Jamil as he had all the power..



Hook'em