Well Grobe has done such a good job at convincing so many to stay on board why not give him a crack at Stidham.
This Just Got Real
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Well Grobe has done such a good job at convincing so many to stay on board why not give him a crack at Stidham.
That new stadium isn't looking so nice after all. Definitely no high school football games will be played there again.
Did I miss something about the stadium? Or is this just because Baylor is on their way to be irrelevant again?
Seriously - self impose the death penalty for a year and start over. Summary of our current course of action - we lost half our class from last year, have no commitments for next year, and now we are bleeding players from the current roster. We have no head coach, athletic director or President. No one is on the recruiting trail. We have been voted a Top 10 most hated team. The NCAA is snooping around, which will create a dark cloud until they are finished (which took about 5 years for USC), even if no rules were broken. There is no future. Shut it down and start all over. I can't take it anymore.
I think it's best to just play through it. As long as the people responsible are out of there, there will be fewer distractions for the team. It won't be easy no matter how you dice it because there will still be a cloud hanging low, plus a lot of talk and deserved scrutiny. But, the team can at least deal with that type of distraction. The players that stay will at least have something to play for. Allowing players to hang out for a year with no activity does nothing for those that had nothing to do with anything. To me, Penn State was a more severe case because of longevity and children with no recourse. However, it is still a repulsive and horrific matter either way.
That's the problem; some of the enabling coaches are still there, if I read Pepper Hamilton correctly.
I wonder how many times during national broadcasts of Baylor games this coming year, the broadcasters will mention the "rape culture" and all of the goings on that led to the termination of Briles. That could be something that is just as damaging. By this coming season, a lot of people will have lost interest in this scandal due to the lack of daily news surrounding the situation, but if every Saturday during the fall a national broadcast picks this up and runs with it, this will continue to be an issue. Unless there are a lot of positive changes that the broadcasters can pick up on that would lead the discussion away from what happened and towards the solution. That would be one way to get some good publicity in this deal.
Reports are he was a no show at Baylor today.
Rumor du jour- He'll surface at Auburn for '17 with Kendall Briles as his OC.
Fans aren't going to let this drop when Baylor is on the road. There will be signs, chants, etc... that get picked up on the broadcast. Nothing Baylor can do about that.
Charlie should give him a call. He throws a tight spiral. Not as fast, but much stronger arm than Seth Russell. Very disappointing, but can't say I blame him.
diadevic you are the ONLY baylor fan I kind of feel sorry for. This has to suck out loud for you. Baylor finally gets a program worth being proud of and BOOM....I don't feel bad for people like realdumbbear or the ashley hodge dude. I know you want a winning program but you want it the RIGHT way.
Hearing rumors that Shock Longwood might leave Baylor to return to his career in porn (yes, I know it's Linwood) and that K.D. Cannon might be looking around as well.
This thing's getting close to being a runaway nuclear reaction.
This thing's getting close to being a runaway nuclear reaction.
Don't give me too much credit -- I used to root for the U when they were beating the Sooners back in the '80's. Yes, it sucks. But we're done. It'll take another 20 years and 5 coaches to stumble into another Teaff or Briles - who knows what the football landscape will look like then. So, I'll go back to what I did pre-Briles -- root for the Horns, become a huge women's hoops fan, and celebrate the occasional upset.
I don't know who but they'll lose more. I seriously doubt Cannon goes just because he'll likely go pro after the season. Sitting out a year or playing at a lower level school would hurt his NFL prospects.
Hey folks, I think we went too far and woke up the sleeping bear. We're probably f*cked now. 
From Baylorfans:
We need two campaigns and we need them now. Both are directed toward are relatively sizable alumni bases in Texas and around the country for that matter. I mean like double time. I own an agency that could do this and do it for free - my dime man! Need to know if you guys would help support it relative to getting the word out.
It would need to be a fan-driven campaign, not letting any of the knuckleheads at Baylor getting anywhere near it. Not the feckless, hair-sprayed vacation bible school volunteer BOR types, not the marketing group that is responsive for creating the literal grave-like atmosphere at most basketball games, not the esoteric "I'm on a Mission" billboards, not Baylor Nation. NONE of them. In the world of big league anything, we often roll out elementary school bake sale level effort and programs.
Both campaigns would be built via social media (facebook, Instagram, periscope, twitter, etc.). I am thinking one positive and one aggressively negative as follows:
- The first is a simple commitment campaign to our 150,000 alumni and friends explaining the crossroads that the 2016 football season (right or wrong) represents to their diploma, to their kid's diploma, etc. The commitment is to sell out EVERY home game and to fill the river with boats. I don't care if they are kayaks, SUP boards, boats - it can be a damn inflatable raft from Walgreens. Does not matter, we need to create the visual of being the place to be this fall. We need an energy level there no matter what the outcome of the game. It is the one thing we can do to shut down the detractors faster than any other move short of an incredible hire. It needs to be a call to arms.
- The second campaign is more aggressively negative. We need to rally the same alumni base including friends and family to build a boycott list of Texas businesses (media mainly but any overtly UT related businesses, TCU related businesses, etc.) that have openly traded off the rape victims in an effort to prop up their own schools. There is a big difference in challenging Baylor to be open about our very serious problems and how they are going to fix them. It is another thing all together to sucker punch a conference member when they are down only to prop up your own sad fan bases. For example, every year, I probably buy four to five issues of Texas Monthly. I run a business that advertises in media vehicles including TM. Starting tomorrow, I will write them a letter canceling my personal and business subscription and saying NEVER again. Not as a reader, not as an advertiser. The media is a business and businesses chase money. Always have and always will. We need to hurt them in their pocketbook. We need to channel our anger in defense of our school. Politicians are the same way. In Texas, if 100,000 folks, no matter what party you follow, agreed to vote and pressure their representatives on ONE TOPIC, Baylor, it would break their backs. A candidate for senate would attend a meeting to stand in front of 1,000 folks, can you imagine if we organized like our literal life depended on it. We would OWN them.
I am pissed and determined. Every time I have ever found myself here, good things happen in my life because I get laser focused. Let's outwork the dicks in the local media.
From Baylorfans:
We need two campaigns and we need them now. Both are directed toward are relatively sizable alumni bases in Texas and around the country for that matter. I mean like double time. I own an agency that could do this and do it for free - my dime man! Need to know if you guys would help support it relative to getting the word out.
It would need to be a fan-driven campaign, not letting any of the knuckleheads at Baylor getting anywhere near it. Not the feckless, hair-sprayed vacation bible school volunteer BOR types, not the marketing group that is responsive for creating the literal grave-like atmosphere at most basketball games, not the esoteric "I'm on a Mission" billboards, not Baylor Nation. NONE of them. In the world of big league anything, we often roll out elementary school bake sale level effort and programs.
Both campaigns would be built via social media (facebook, Instagram, periscope, twitter, etc.). I am thinking one positive and one aggressively negative as follows:
- The first is a simple commitment campaign to our 150,000 alumni and friends explaining the crossroads that the 2016 football season (right or wrong) represents to their diploma, to their kid's diploma, etc. The commitment is to sell out EVERY home game and to fill the river with boats. I don't care if they are kayaks, SUP boards, boats - it can be a damn inflatable raft from Walgreens. Does not matter, we need to create the visual of being the place to be this fall. We need an energy level there no matter what the outcome of the game. It is the one thing we can do to shut down the detractors faster than any other move short of an incredible hire. It needs to be a call to arms.
- The second campaign is more aggressively negative. We need to rally the same alumni base including friends and family to build a boycott list of Texas businesses (media mainly but any overtly UT related businesses, TCU related businesses, etc.) that have openly traded off the rape victims in an effort to prop up their own schools. There is a big difference in challenging Baylor to be open about our very serious problems and how they are going to fix them. It is another thing all together to sucker punch a conference member when they are down only to prop up your own sad fan bases. For example, every year, I probably buy four to five issues of Texas Monthly. I run a business that advertises in media vehicles including TM. Starting tomorrow, I will write them a letter canceling my personal and business subscription and saying NEVER again. Not as a reader, not as an advertiser. The media is a business and businesses chase money. Always have and always will. We need to hurt them in their pocketbook. We need to channel our anger in defense of our school. Politicians are the same way. In Texas, if 100,000 folks, no matter what party you follow, agreed to vote and pressure their representatives on ONE TOPIC, Baylor, it would break their backs. A candidate for senate would attend a meeting to stand in front of 1,000 folks, can you imagine if we organized like our literal life depended on it. We would OWN them.
I am pissed and determined. Every time I have ever found myself here, good things happen in my life because I get laser focused. Let's outwork the dicks in the local media.
Why UT? I am not saying anybody is wrong to blame UT because I have no clue. Was it? Does anybody have any proof? First of all, this person is forgetting who the criminal is. Secondly, can UT people not join a discussion? Was this guy not appalled and openly condemn Penn St or did he simply not have an opinion? BTW, his "1st Campaign" is an excellent idea to show support for their remaining players and school.Hey folks, I think we went too far and woke up the sleeping bear. We're probably f*cked now.
From Baylorfans:
We need two campaigns and we need them now. Both are directed toward are relatively sizable alumni bases in Texas and around the country for that matter. I mean like double time. I own an agency that could do this and do it for free - my dime man! Need to know if you guys would help support it relative to getting the word out.
It would need to be a fan-driven campaign, not letting any of the knuckleheads at Baylor getting anywhere near it. Not the feckless, hair-sprayed vacation bible school volunteer BOR types, not the marketing group that is responsive for creating the literal grave-like atmosphere at most basketball games, not the esoteric "I'm on a Mission" billboards, not Baylor Nation. NONE of them. In the world of big league anything, we often roll out elementary school bake sale level effort and programs.
Both campaigns would be built via social media (facebook, Instagram, periscope, twitter, etc.). I am thinking one positive and one aggressively negative as follows:
- The first is a simple commitment campaign to our 150,000 alumni and friends explaining the crossroads that the 2016 football season (right or wrong) represents to their diploma, to their kid's diploma, etc. The commitment is to sell out EVERY home game and to fill the river with boats. I don't care if they are kayaks, SUP boards, boats - it can be a damn inflatable raft from Walgreens. Does not matter, we need to create the visual of being the place to be this fall. We need an energy level there no matter what the outcome of the game. It is the one thing we can do to shut down the detractors faster than any other move short of an incredible hire. It needs to be a call to arms.
- The second campaign is more aggressively negative. We need to rally the same alumni base including friends and family to build a boycott list of Texas businesses (media mainly but any overtly UT related businesses, TCU related businesses, etc.) that have openly traded off the rape victims in an effort to prop up their own schools. There is a big difference in challenging Baylor to be open about our very serious problems and how they are going to fix them. It is another thing all together to sucker punch a conference member when they are down only to prop up your own sad fan bases. For example, every year, I probably buy four to five issues of Texas Monthly. I run a business that advertises in media vehicles including TM. Starting tomorrow, I will write them a letter canceling my personal and business subscription and saying NEVER again. Not as a reader, not as an advertiser. The media is a business and businesses chase money. Always have and always will. We need to hurt them in their pocketbook. We need to channel our anger in defense of our school. Politicians are the same way. In Texas, if 100,000 folks, no matter what party you follow, agreed to vote and pressure their representatives on ONE TOPIC, Baylor, it would break their backs. A candidate for senate would attend a meeting to stand in front of 1,000 folks, can you imagine if we organized like our literal life depended on it. We would OWN them.
I am pissed and determined. Every time I have ever found myself here, good things happen in my life because I get laser focused. Let's outwork the dicks in the local media.
No, it's just an insane conspiracy theory subscribed to by a disturbingly large portion of the Baylor fan base. So many of them actually believe that nothing happened under Briles' watch that doesn't happen everywhere else. It was just UT and the media conspiring to blow these very ordinary events way, way out of proportion in order to take Baylor down.
You should not only say that someone is wrong for blaming UT -- you should call those people out for the disgusting, delusional rape-apologists they are.
The stuff below is from Ashley Hodge (click to zoom). Pretty damning, to say the least. This guy is a tremendous Baylor homer, by the way. He's basically the Taylor Hammroid of BU recruiting sites. At every step of the way he was denying that anything significant was happening, calling Sam U's victim a slut after he was convicted, then later saying that the PH report exonerated Briles, and so forth. Evidently he got ahold of some actual sources recently.
You know it's bad when a guy like that is writing stuff like this. Wish I could see all of the subscriber posts that followed.
You know it's bad when a guy like that is writing stuff like this. Wish I could see all of the subscriber posts that followed.
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Chuckulz. No amount of lipstick can make this pig presentable. Nobody with any cognitive brain function will be fooled into thinking Baylor is the place to be come Fall. Geez.Hey folks, I think we went too far and woke up the sleeping bear. We're probably f*cked now.
From Baylorfans:
We need two campaigns and we need them now. Both are directed toward are relatively sizable alumni bases in Texas and around the country for that matter. I mean like double time. I own an agency that could do this and do it for free - my dime man! Need to know if you guys would help support it relative to getting the word out.
It would need to be a fan-driven campaign, not letting any of the knuckleheads at Baylor getting anywhere near it. Not the feckless, hair-sprayed vacation bible school volunteer BOR types, not the marketing group that is responsive for creating the literal grave-like atmosphere at most basketball games, not the esoteric "I'm on a Mission" billboards, not Baylor Nation. NONE of them. In the world of big league anything, we often roll out elementary school bake sale level effort and programs.
Both campaigns would be built via social media (facebook, Instagram, periscope, twitter, etc.). I am thinking one positive and one aggressively negative as follows:
- The first is a simple commitment campaign to our 150,000 alumni and friends explaining the crossroads that the 2016 football season (right or wrong) represents to their diploma, to their kid's diploma, etc. The commitment is to sell out EVERY home game and to fill the river with boats. I don't care if they are kayaks, SUP boards, boats - it can be a damn inflatable raft from Walgreens. Does not matter, we need to create the visual of being the place to be this fall. We need an energy level there no matter what the outcome of the game. It is the one thing we can do to shut down the detractors faster than any other move short of an incredible hire. It needs to be a call to arms.
- The second campaign is more aggressively negative. We need to rally the same alumni base including friends and family to build a boycott list of Texas businesses (media mainly but any overtly UT related businesses, TCU related businesses, etc.) that have openly traded off the rape victims in an effort to prop up their own schools. There is a big difference in challenging Baylor to be open about our very serious problems and how they are going to fix them. It is another thing all together to sucker punch a conference member when they are down only to prop up your own sad fan bases. For example, every year, I probably buy four to five issues of Texas Monthly. I run a business that advertises in media vehicles including TM. Starting tomorrow, I will write them a letter canceling my personal and business subscription and saying NEVER again. Not as a reader, not as an advertiser. The media is a business and businesses chase money. Always have and always will. We need to hurt them in their pocketbook. We need to channel our anger in defense of our school. Politicians are the same way. In Texas, if 100,000 folks, no matter what party you follow, agreed to vote and pressure their representatives on ONE TOPIC, Baylor, it would break their backs. A candidate for senate would attend a meeting to stand in front of 1,000 folks, can you imagine if we organized like our literal life depended on it. We would OWN them.
I am pissed and determined. Every time I have ever found myself here, good things happen in my life because I get laser focused. Let's outwork the dicks in the local media.
So who were the "fixit" guys and why weren't they fired?The stuff below is from Ashley Hodge (click to zoom). Pretty damning, to say the least. This guy is a tremendous Baylor homer, by the way. He's basically the Taylor Hammroid of BU recruiting sites. At every step of the way he was denying that anything significant was happening, calling Sam U's victim a slut after he was convicted, then later saying that the PH report exonerated Briles, and so forth. Evidently he got ahold of some actual sources recently.
You know it's bad when a guy like that is writing stuff like this. Wish I could see all of the subscriber posts that followed.
I find it hard to believe that the BOR made "repeated attempts" to implement Title IX requirements, and Starr "resisted." How hard can it be to hire a Title IX coordinator? Its on Starr, he's in charge, but BOR was befuddled on how to get Title IX implemented??? Sounds like CYA by BOR with lawsuits pending and coming..
Wow I'm so impressed by the writing an rhetorical skills that I'm natcherly gun na be apart of thisHey folks, I think we went too far and woke up the sleeping bear. We're probably f*cked now.
From Baylorfans:
We need two campaigns and we need them now. Both are directed toward are relatively sizable alumni bases in Texas and around the country for that matter. I mean like double time. I own an agency that could do this and do it for free - my dime man! Need to know if you guys would help support it relative to getting the word out.
It would need to be a fan-driven campaign, not letting any of the knuckleheads at Baylor getting anywhere near it. Not the feckless, hair-sprayed vacation bible school volunteer BOR types, not the marketing group that is responsive for creating the literal grave-like atmosphere at most basketball games, not the esoteric "I'm on a Mission" billboards, not Baylor Nation. NONE of them. In the world of big league anything, we often roll out elementary school bake sale level effort and programs.
Both campaigns would be built via social media (facebook, Instagram, periscope, twitter, etc.). I am thinking one positive and one aggressively negative as follows:
- The first is a simple commitment campaign to our 150,000 alumni and friends explaining the crossroads that the 2016 football season (right or wrong) represents to their diploma, to their kid's diploma, etc. The commitment is to sell out EVERY home game and to fill the river with boats. I don't care if they are kayaks, SUP boards, boats - it can be a damn inflatable raft from Walgreens. Does not matter, we need to create the visual of being the place to be this fall. We need an energy level there no matter what the outcome of the game. It is the one thing we can do to shut down the detractors faster than any other move short of an incredible hire. It needs to be a call to arms.
- The second campaign is more aggressively negative. We need to rally the same alumni base including friends and family to build a boycott list of Texas businesses (media mainly but any overtly UT related businesses, TCU related businesses, etc.) that have openly traded off the rape victims in an effort to prop up their own schools. There is a big difference in challenging Baylor to be open about our very serious problems and how they are going to fix them. It is another thing all together to sucker punch a conference member when they are down only to prop up your own sad fan bases. For example, every year, I probably buy four to five issues of Texas Monthly. I run a business that advertises in media vehicles including TM. Starting tomorrow, I will write them a letter canceling my personal and business subscription and saying NEVER again. Not as a reader, not as an advertiser. The media is a business and businesses chase money. Always have and always will. We need to hurt them in their pocketbook. We need to channel our anger in defense of our school. Politicians are the same way. In Texas, if 100,000 folks, no matter what party you follow, agreed to vote and pressure their representatives on ONE TOPIC, Baylor, it would break their backs. A candidate for senate would attend a meeting to stand in front of 1,000 folks, can you imagine if we organized like our literal life depended on it. We would OWN them.
I am pissed and determined. Every time I have ever found myself here, good things happen in my life because I get laser focused. Let's outwork the dicks in the local media.
I'm pissed and determined too
Damn Horns probly did the raping
Look! Over there! A Longhorn!
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The jumps in logic here are astounding. He thinks Baylor fans should boycott "UT related businesses."
Just for fun, lets walk through this.
1) A "UT related business" could only be a few things...a media outlet that covers Texas sports, merchandise retailers, possibly vendors at events...am I missing something? The point is, how much money were Baylor fans spending at these types of businesses to begin with. Its highly unlikely that a company that sells Texas gear derived a significant amount of the profits from purchases from Baylor fans.
But lets just assume that they did....
2) How in the world did these businesses "trade rape victims to prop up" Texas? He doesn't explain this much, but from what I've heard from Baylor folks, this vague accusation is something about attempting to take down Baylor to help Texas. So when all these victims started coming forward, these "UT related businesses" saw an opportunity to do...what, exactly? Report about it? Isn't it that job of reporters to report? Howe have the rape victims been harmed by the reporting of this story? Maybe he's talking about the transfers to Texas? How exactly did Texas monthly make that happen?
Just for fun, lets walk through this.
1) A "UT related business" could only be a few things...a media outlet that covers Texas sports, merchandise retailers, possibly vendors at events...am I missing something? The point is, how much money were Baylor fans spending at these types of businesses to begin with. Its highly unlikely that a company that sells Texas gear derived a significant amount of the profits from purchases from Baylor fans.
But lets just assume that they did....
2) How in the world did these businesses "trade rape victims to prop up" Texas? He doesn't explain this much, but from what I've heard from Baylor folks, this vague accusation is something about attempting to take down Baylor to help Texas. So when all these victims started coming forward, these "UT related businesses" saw an opportunity to do...what, exactly? Report about it? Isn't it that job of reporters to report? Howe have the rape victims been harmed by the reporting of this story? Maybe he's talking about the transfers to Texas? How exactly did Texas monthly make that happen?
Not to go off topic but --- it seems that the Aggies have a lot of guys that advertise their businesses on the radio, and they always mention that they were class of _____. I've heard everything from roofers to car dealers. I will say that it makes me less inclined to frequent their businesses. Unless of course they cut me a deal.
