Except for the fact that basketball is just as big a money-making sport. Then there is the fact Texas and Oklahoma would still dominate until USC gets back.
A reason for you old farts to hang on longer
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Except for the fact that basketball is just as big a money-making sport. Then there is the fact Texas and Oklahoma would still dominate until USC gets back.
Pretty sure we have different definitions of what a fact is. Are you watching CNN again?
when aTm was in the Big 12 they were on our schedule. When they left there was no longer any reason to schedule them.What have they EVER done to deserve being on our schedule?
Maybe, they are both propaganda networks. I'm just more disappointed in CNN, they used to pretend to be almost neutral (not that they really were). Fox never really pretended, although they are obviously fair and balanced (hopefully they were being sarcastic).
Just wasn't sure where he heard college basketball is making schools just as much money as football.
Then why are so many Texas fans saying we're afraid to play you? Seems like the feeling is mutual according to this, and I am great with never playing you again unless in a bowl.
Because the SEC keeps manipulating bowl matchups so the A&M doesn't play Texas.
I'm in favor of Texas never playing a&m again in any sport. Ever. They took their toys, ran away and quit the conference and the rivalry. a&m doesn't deserve the privilege of playing The University of Texas. Screw'em!
And you refused to play us then, but now you need some more noteworthy opponents so we're scared of the "privilege" I guess. Enjoy the 11 am time slot.
Number of 11 am regular season games played in 2018
Texas - 3
aggy - 3
*Texas played an additional 11 am game that was the Big 12 conference championship. Aggy did not make their conference championship game.
Lol at the 11AM timeslot comment. You just got owned with aggy playing the same amount of 11AM games as Texas.
Wake me up when a&m ever wins something of significance.
aggy isn't "$EC good".
Here is what I'm getting at when I talk about a Texas/Oklahoma to the Pac.
There are really only a small handful of blue blood programs.
1. Notre Dame
2. Bama
3. blOwU
4. USC
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Texas
There are lots of other good programs like LSU, Florida, Georgia, Penn State ect but none of them would be on the level of the top 7 schools. Now if you put 3 of those schools in one conference that trumps all other conferences. Now also combine the recruiting force of having both California and Texas as your main recruiting bases and you really have something.
Who cares about one late night game a year when you can put together a conference like that. My biggest concern is the liberal California government making rules the force Texas to be like them or they impose penalties. Like that whole bathroom thing. In that case I'd rather go to the SEC.
To be honest, I think one reason Texas is playing all those SEC schools is trying to win over favoritism for a bid into the SEC. They know that Aggsy and Missouri have the votes to block Texas and they will do it unless Texas can sway teams like Florida and Georgia to break ranks.
There are really only a small handful of blue blood programs.
1. Notre Dame
2. Bama
3. blOwU
4. USC
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Texas
There are lots of other good programs like LSU, Florida, Georgia, Penn State ect but none of them would be on the level of the top 7 schools. Now if you put 3 of those schools in one conference that trumps all other conferences. Now also combine the recruiting force of having both California and Texas as your main recruiting bases and you really have something.
Who cares about one late night game a year when you can put together a conference like that. My biggest concern is the liberal California government making rules the force Texas to be like them or they impose penalties. Like that whole bathroom thing. In that case I'd rather go to the SEC.
To be honest, I think one reason Texas is playing all those SEC schools is trying to win over favoritism for a bid into the SEC. They know that Aggsy and Missouri have the votes to block Texas and they will do it unless Texas can sway teams like Florida and Georgia to break ranks.
You make some valid points, but all things considered, I don't think Texas will end up in the PAC. The $EC makes more sense, but I don't think that conference is a fit for Texas academically. A revised Big 10 probably makes the most sense. It'll be interesting to see how all of this will settle out in the coming years.
I think it will be the Big Ten, which I hate. Mostly deadly boring football, especially in the West division, and no one gives one scintilla of a sh*t about college baseball. Lots of faraway towns where people think ketchup is spicy.
Academically, Texas fits the Big 10 but I just don't see what they offer in other ways. There is no recruiting advantage in that conference. We literally don't recruit Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, or Pennsylvania. Even if we did, I don't see much of an advantage to those states. The cities would be nice. Minneapolis, Chicago,New York, DC, but that doesn't really compare to Seattle, San Fran, Portland, LA, Phoenix, Denver, and SLC.
And like I said, adding California and Texas recruiting pipeline might turn Texas into the Kracken.
And like I said, adding California and Texas recruiting pipeline might turn Texas into the Kracken.
seriously.....if Texas applied to the secsecsec you are saying that aTm and Missouri could block them?......
It takes 4 schools to block a team from being admitted to the SEC. There is a gentlemen's agreement between Georgia, Florida, USCe Kentucky and now Aggsy to block any school for each of those states from getting into the SEC. This is big because FSU and Miami were never given much of a shot at going to the SEC because of this block. Same with Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville, and of course Texas. Add to that how much Missouri hates Texas and you have a lot of work for Texas to over come to get into the SEC.
Texas will never win over Missouri or Aggsy, but winning over the other guys is possible.
Texas will never win over Missouri or Aggsy, but winning over the other guys is possible.
I'd add Arkansas to that list. They still hate Texas more than all others.
Wasatch,
Ohio and Pennsylvania are hotbeds for recruiting. If Texas were to join the Big 10, that could be a nice pool to recruit from, plus the occasional 4 or 5-star recruit in other Big 10 states. You're discounting that part of the country for recruiting, and you shouldn't diss the talent level in the Midwest and east coast. It's there.
I will be floored if Texas ever joins the PAC. It's never going to happen, IMO.
IF, and that's a big if, Texas wanted to join the $EC, they would probably fall over themselves to let UT and possibly OU in. If it came down to it, the $EC would either persuade the other schools to vote to let Texas in, or if aggy and Mizzou dug in with the $EC over this, they could possibly punt them in favor of Texas and OU because of what both schools bring to the table compared to aggy and Mizzou.
Ohio and Pennsylvania are hotbeds for recruiting. If Texas were to join the Big 10, that could be a nice pool to recruit from, plus the occasional 4 or 5-star recruit in other Big 10 states. You're discounting that part of the country for recruiting, and you shouldn't diss the talent level in the Midwest and east coast. It's there.
I will be floored if Texas ever joins the PAC. It's never going to happen, IMO.
IF, and that's a big if, Texas wanted to join the $EC, they would probably fall over themselves to let UT and possibly OU in. If it came down to it, the $EC would either persuade the other schools to vote to let Texas in, or if aggy and Mizzou dug in with the $EC over this, they could possibly punt them in favor of Texas and OU because of what both schools bring to the table compared to aggy and Mizzou.
A. With how bad things are in the PAC, and Larry Scott’s complete ineptitude, the Big 12 is far more like to pick off PAC teams than Texas is to join the PAC.
B. With cord cutting/shaving teams that actually deliver eyeballs will be calling the shots in the next round of alignments. The days of media footprint’s forced carriage revenue are coming to a close.
B. With cord cutting/shaving teams that actually deliver eyeballs will be calling the shots in the next round of alignments. The days of media footprint’s forced carriage revenue are coming to a close.
Here is what you aggsy don't understand, yes you have made a significant financial investment in winning, but all you really did was just keep up with your neighbors to the east. Jimbo isn't the savior you think he is and you will realize in 2 to 3 years he has over promised and under delivered. Arkansas has started to figure out that the SEC grass isn't greener, they haven't even challenged for an SEC title but for one season. They have won nothing since they parted ways with Texas. Their Texas recruiting has basically dried up. Their best recruiting years have come the years after playing and beating Texas. This is what they are starting to understand, they need UT more than UT needed them. I don't think they would vote no, I think they would welcome Texas into the SEC.
You guys and Missouri are different, the divorce hate is still fresh in your minds.
I'm seeing better stuff coming out of Arizona, there nothing in the Big 10 area to match what is produced out of Texas, California or Florida. If Texas is going to jump ship it needs to be to tie in recruiting to either Florida or California, that is the only thing that makes it worthwhile to do so. The western states have so much more to offer, The south is pretty well tapped by the SEC, ACC and Big 10, the West is being recruited by the big boys in the other conferences but being able to tap those states as part of the conference out there is much much bigger.
This is actually a huge selling point. The deal Texas would get from the Pac would be huge, Texas would be the Pac savior, they bring TV sets, eye balls, and name recognition. Combine Texas Oklahoma and USC and you have a conference worth watching. No more getting left out of the playoffs. The TV deal would be every bit as good as what the SEC and Big 10 have.
Of course if we could convince USC, UCLA and the Arizona schools to Join the Big 12, it would pretty much have the same effect, but I personally don't want to be in the same conference as ISU Baylor, or KSU.
I'm not saying that Ohio, Pennsylvania and the Midwest are more fertile recruiting grounds than Texas, California or Florida, but for you to say that there are no advantages, or big recruits there isn't accurate. Those states produce very talented players every year and they aren't that far off from the big three. I want what's best for Texas, but a move to the PAC isn't what's in UT's best interest. If I had my druthers, I'd blow up every conference in America and sort them out logistically, logically, academically, etc., but that isn't realistic.
Lol that people don't realize the SEC has asked Texas to join five times over the last 35 years.
CDC just visited Tuscaloosa after the sugar bowl. If Bama asks, you're in. We were prolly invited again.
"And you refused to play us then, but now you need some more noteworthy opponents so we're scared of the "privilege" I guess. Enjoy the 11 am time slot."
We ARE getting "noteworthy" opponents....like LSU....Bama....
aggy is a notch or two below these opponents so why would Texas schedule aggy and hurt their strength of schedule?
We ARE getting "noteworthy" opponents....like LSU....Bama....
aggy is a notch or two below these opponents so why would Texas schedule aggy and hurt their strength of schedule?
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I keep seeing this argument made by aggy but no objective evidence. Somehow they have convinced themselves that Texas is having a hard time putting people in the seats and getting eyes on the television. Here is some objective evidence that speaks against this:
Texas ranked 7th overall in home game attendance at 97.7k per game, filling 97.5% of our stadium capacity. A&M ranked 6th with 99.8K, filling 97.1% of their stadium.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...s-2018-Ohio-State-Michigan-Alabama-126388217/
Texas played in the 4th most watched regular season or conference champ game in the nation (Big 12 championship game). They played in the 5th most watched bowl game (behind CFP games and Rose Bowl). A&M drew 8 millions less viewers to rank 10th.
Through the course of the regular season Texas had ratings of:
UGA (sugar bowl) 13.3 Million viewers
Big 12 Champ 10.3
OU - 5.6
WVU 4.4
OK-St 3.5
USC 3.0
TCU 2.9
TTU 2.6
Baylor 1.8
MD 1.3
KU 1.2
K-state 1.0
Not listed for Tulsa or Iowa State (LHN is not neilsen rated)
Total - 50.9 million TV viewers over 12 games (4.25 million per game)
If you assume 1 million for both LHN games it is still 3.77 million per game.
Texas A&M TV ratings:
Bama 5.6 Million viewers
NC St (gator bowl) 5.1
Clemson 4.5
Aub 2.6
Kentucky 2.5
Miss St 2.2
Miss 2.1
Arkansas 1.6
UAB 0.7
Not Listed for NW State, LA Monroe, South Carolina or LSU (not on neilsen rated channels)
Total - 26.9 million TV viewers over 9 games (3 million per game)
The LSU game probably helps this average with the 7OTs, but the other 3 games probably drop it significantly. If you assume 5 million for LSU, 2 million for SC and 1 million for NW state and LA-Monroe you get 2.76 per game.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
We aren't even "back" yet and are still outpacing aggy in viewership by 1 million a game with only 2 thousand less butts in seats.
I think we have enough Texas HS talent without going outa State, at one point you are gonna have to start training these kids to play better ball than what a HS coach gives them, these kids know how to play the game, you just gotta make them better at playing,,,F*ck the Star system...
As long as we have to share Texas high school talent with the rest of the United States, we might as well take some of the talent the rest of the United States has to offer.
BTW do you know how much talent we give away if we only recruited Texas? No Ricky Williams, No Eric Metcalf, no Bryant Westbrook, No Lovelle Pickney, I could go on and on and on. I prefer getting our talent from all over the world rather than limiting ourselves to just Texas.
Two &@$ing pages? This thread is two $&@ing pages? Jfc this time of year sucks. Who gives a shit? According to AOC the world is gonna be ending around the time we're supposed to play Florida anyway.
On a side note, the world will be ending, and aggy will still have won nothing. Sads.
On a side note, the world will be ending, and aggy will still have won nothing. Sads.
