Biden fear mongering Covid hoax No. 2
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do you not think Biden was getting daily briefings from military, national security advisors leading up to him taking office? That was 8 or 9 months ago now. Funny, dipshit Joe wants to take credit for "jobs created" under his watch, what a knee slapper btw, but doesn't want any accountability
You know what else would help? A fair election, then the right man would still be in office. And btw it’s awful convenient how you forget that when the dums thought they were gonna lose, they were all saying Biden shouldn’t concede, and he should drag it out as long as possible. So cry me a river on that bullshit.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Is the Journal of the American Medical Association good enough for you?
2020 saw 560,000 more deaths than the average of the previous five years
As I said, that Covid is quite a hoax. It somehow managed to convince hundreds of thousands of people to die.
And we all know that many of the covid "deaths" were people who were already on their way out, respectfully, and covid sped up the process.Is the Journal of the American Medical Association good enough for you?
2020 saw 560,000 more deaths than the average of the previous five years
As I said, that Covid is quite a hoax. It somehow managed to convince hundreds of thousands of people to die.
I'll give you a first hand account as an example.
A man I grew up with in Corpus, Kevin, his father had been on the transplant list for months while he waited for a liver. He was having his diaphragm drained weekly to keep the fluid from building up. The man had maybe a month or two left before his demise.
He got covid, and died a week later. When my buddy Kevin was handed the death certificate, the cause of death was "covid". I was sitting next to him while this went down. He told the hospital attendant that if they didn't change to cause of death to "liver failure" that he'd burn the hospital to the ground.
I backed him up. That's what friends do.
I was fully prepared to decimate that building and those people for the lies they were telling for money.
A nurse approached me in the lobby after our very heated exchange with staff and doctors, as it spilled out into the lobby. The nurse informed me that the hospital received more government funding if people "died" of covid-- even if they didn't.
My business partner whose wife is an administrator at Dell children's hospital, and former admin at Seton, confirmed this.
The government is lying. It's not the first time we've been lied to.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Pure covid deaths huh? Chucklz not even close. Covid is a parasite to other diseases and preys on the medically compromised.Is the Journal of the American Medical Association good enough for you?
2020 saw 560,000 more deaths than the average of the previous five years
As I said, that Covid is quite a hoax. It somehow managed to convince hundreds of thousands of people to die.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Please tell me this didn't happen. Because it did. And being a douche and insulting me won't get you anywhere. And worst of all, for you, I'm 100% confident that you would not be the keyboard warrior you're trying to be if you and I were in person.
You'd shut your fvcking mouth and realize that you were wrong. There were people that were sick with diabetes, heart conditions, kidney, lung, innumerable conditions that were going to kill them.
Covid exasperated it. It sped up the inevitable.
It's a cull. And you're too stupid and weak to realize that with no matter of prevention can something like this be stopped.
So hope I bump into you one day.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Did people just start getting sick with diabetes, heart conditions, kidney conditions etc... last year? Or were there people with those same conditions dying in each of the five preceding years? Because 560,000 MORE people died last year than they did, on average, over the five preceding years. That's quite a hoax.
Your "hoax" is so convincing that the conservative mayor of Waco said that Waco's medical infrastructure is crashing and the morgues are full. Texas just ordered five FEMA morgue trailers. One's going to Waco.
Covid has hospitals teetering on the brink, doctors and nurses are exhausted, morgue trailers are being ordered and it's killing previously healthy people, like my friend Daniel, with whom I played darts nearly every week for 30 years.
And y'all are convinced it's a hoax.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
I almost didn't see this. Yeah. It's a cull. LIKE EVERY OTHER FATAL DISEASE. The difference being that, unlike most of them, it is passed from person to person.
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Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Someone should tell Caleb Wallace that it's a hoax:
Or Marc Bernier:
Or any of the countless folks on the Herman Cain award reddit sub-forum.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
Oh, wait, you can't tell them that it's a hoax because they are dead.
Or Marc Bernier:
Or any of the countless folks on the Herman Cain award reddit sub-forum.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
Oh, wait, you can't tell them that it's a hoax because they are dead.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Somebody might want to tell the German, South African and UK researches who uncovered how the SARS Covid-2 virus works that it's a hoax and a "parasite to other diseases" (whatever the hell that is) because they sure do seem to think that it's an actual disease that is actually killing people.
Here's a lovely bit of reading regarding how the SARS COVID-2 virus operates:
The mechanism the virus uses to hollow out lung tissue is now at least partly known: it is able to fuse adjacent cells together so that it can move from one cell to another without ever entering the intercelluar fluid, where it can be recognized and attacked by antibodies. Eventually this forms a large mass of hollowed out nonfunctioning cell walls that finally collapses, releasing a huge load of virus particles all at once. After weeks of this the lungs consist of just scraps of scar tissue loosely hung together and no longer involved in respiration.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...pidly-spreads-by-cell-fusion-finds-study.aspx
Might want to tell the Mayor of Waco that it's a hoax. He's convinced that it's overwhelming his hospitals and that his morgues are full:
Waco in Trouble
The good folks at the University of Texas Covid-19 modeling consortium might be surprised to learn it's a hoax and that "with no matter of prevention can something like this be stopped," because they seem to believe that there are measures that can be taken:
"Experts: 100,000 more could die of Covid between now and Dec. 1. That number would be cut in half if people wore masks in public spaces.
"The U.S. is projected to see nearly 100,000 more COVID-19 deaths between now and Dec. 1, according to the nation's most closely watched forecasting model. But health experts say that toll could be cut in half if nearly everyone wore a mask in public spaces.
In other words, what the coronavirus has in store this fall depends on human behavior.
“Behavior is really going to determine if, when and how sustainably the current wave subsides,” said Lauren Ancel Meyers, director of the University of Texas COVID-19 Modeling Consortium. “We cannot stop delta in its tracks, but we can change our behavior overnight.”
Close to 100,000 people projected to die between now and Dec. 1 but that number could be cut in half if we changed our ways
But then, what do the Mayor of Waco, the director of the UT Covid-19 Modeling Consortium, and the researchers who have uncovered exactly how Covid hollows out the lungs know compared to the eminent microbiologists here on Orangebloods? Seriously, why don't you all call these people and let them in on the fact that it's a hoax? Just call them all up and say "don't worry about it! There's nothing that can be done. It's just a cull."
Here's a lovely bit of reading regarding how the SARS COVID-2 virus operates:
The mechanism the virus uses to hollow out lung tissue is now at least partly known: it is able to fuse adjacent cells together so that it can move from one cell to another without ever entering the intercelluar fluid, where it can be recognized and attacked by antibodies. Eventually this forms a large mass of hollowed out nonfunctioning cell walls that finally collapses, releasing a huge load of virus particles all at once. After weeks of this the lungs consist of just scraps of scar tissue loosely hung together and no longer involved in respiration.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...pidly-spreads-by-cell-fusion-finds-study.aspx
Might want to tell the Mayor of Waco that it's a hoax. He's convinced that it's overwhelming his hospitals and that his morgues are full:
Waco in Trouble
The good folks at the University of Texas Covid-19 modeling consortium might be surprised to learn it's a hoax and that "with no matter of prevention can something like this be stopped," because they seem to believe that there are measures that can be taken:
"Experts: 100,000 more could die of Covid between now and Dec. 1. That number would be cut in half if people wore masks in public spaces.
"The U.S. is projected to see nearly 100,000 more COVID-19 deaths between now and Dec. 1, according to the nation's most closely watched forecasting model. But health experts say that toll could be cut in half if nearly everyone wore a mask in public spaces.
In other words, what the coronavirus has in store this fall depends on human behavior.
“Behavior is really going to determine if, when and how sustainably the current wave subsides,” said Lauren Ancel Meyers, director of the University of Texas COVID-19 Modeling Consortium. “We cannot stop delta in its tracks, but we can change our behavior overnight.”
Close to 100,000 people projected to die between now and Dec. 1 but that number could be cut in half if we changed our ways
But then, what do the Mayor of Waco, the director of the UT Covid-19 Modeling Consortium, and the researchers who have uncovered exactly how Covid hollows out the lungs know compared to the eminent microbiologists here on Orangebloods? Seriously, why don't you all call these people and let them in on the fact that it's a hoax? Just call them all up and say "don't worry about it! There's nothing that can be done. It's just a cull."
Let me help you out. You see down at the bottom of your chart thingy where it explains these numbers? Notice what it says about the data for 2020? It clarifies that the data for 2020 is "provisional" which means it is just a guess. The bottom line is they don't know. In addition, the AMA is by no means an independent and impartial organization. They openly promote the narrative for a never ending pandemic because they believe it is financially lucrative for it's membership. Fortunately, most doctors want nothing to do with the AMA. They have zero credibility.Is the Journal of the American Medical Association good enough for you?
2020 saw 560,000 more deaths than the average of the previous five years
As I said, that Covid is quite a hoax. It somehow managed to convince hundreds of thousands of people to die.
If you're a real truth seeker, you would go to an independent group of experts like say from Johns Hopkins University. Here's an article that outlines their analysis of the data and, unsurprisingly, their data completely contradicts your cute little chart from the AMA. Notice how they have actual documented data for 2020 deaths. Funny how their numbers for 2020 deaths are about 800k less than what you posted from the AMA. This Covid thing is nothing more than a slightly higher than average flu season. Is it real? Of course. Are people dying from it? You betcha. Are they dying at a rate to qualify it as a major pandemic where we're forced to be locked down and hide in a closet wearing three masks? Hell fvcking no! The lockdown alone has killed thousands plus shut down hundreds of thousands of small businesses and cost hundreds of thousands of job losses. That's a dream scenario for leftist politicians who want nothing more than to control every aspect of our lives. They're lying to us and you're just a useful idiot buying into this bullshit. Have a fvcking mind of your own and try to think for yourself.
Johns Hopkins: COVID Has Had No Effect On US Death Rate
Update 8/25/21: UK data shows vaxed dying at higher rate than unvaxed. Swedish data shows no excess deaths, mirroring this censored Hopkins study. “Therefore, according to Briand, not only h…
libertariannews.org
He probably also believes that Biden got> 81,000,000 legitimate votes because he can find a source.Let me help you out. You see down at the bottom of your chart thingy where it explains these numbers? Notice what it says about the data for 2020? It clarifies that the data for 2020 is "provisional" which means it is just a guess. The bottom line is they don't know. In addition, the AMA is by no means an independent and impartial organization. They openly promote the narrative for a never ending pandemic because they believe it is financially lucrative for it's membership. Fortunately, most doctors want nothing to do with the AMA. They have zero credibility.
If you're a real truth seeker, you would go to an independent group of experts like say from Johns Hopkins University. Here's an article that outlines their analysis of the data and, unsurprisingly, their data completely contradicts your cute little chart from the AMA. Notice how they have actual documented data for 2020 deaths. Funny how their numbers for 2020 deaths are about 800k less than what you posted from the AMA. This Covid thing is nothing more than a slightly higher than average flu season. Is it real? Of course. Are people dying from it? You betcha. Are they dying at a rate to qualify it as a major pandemic where we're forced to be locked down and hide in a closet wearing three masks? Hell fvcking no! The lockdown alone has killed thousands plus shut down hundreds of thousands of small businesses and cost hundreds of thousands of job losses. That's a dream scenario for leftist politicians who want nothing more than to control every aspect of our lives. They're lying to us and you're just a useful idiot buying into this bullshit. Have a fvcking mind of your own and try to think for yourself.
Johns Hopkins: COVID Has Had No Effect On US Death Rate
Update 8/25/21: UK data shows vaxed dying at higher rate than unvaxed. Swedish data shows no excess deaths, mirroring this censored Hopkins study. “Therefore, according to Briand, not only h…libertariannews.org
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
LOL: your article is dated 11/26/2020. According to Genevieve Briand, who did the research cited in the article (with numbers from the CDC), she compared data from mid-March, 2020 -mid September 2020:
https://web.archive.org/web/2020112...1/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
And provisional does not mean it is "just a guess," as the CDC explains.
The AMA article that I linked got its data from the CDC. Here's what the CDC says:
Summary:
What is already known about this topic?
The COVID-19 pandemic caused approximately 375,000 deaths in the United States during 2020.
What is added by this report?
The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020. Overall death rates were highest among non-Hispanic Black persons and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native persons. COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death, and the COVID-19 death rate was highest among start highlightnon-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native persons.
What are the implications for public health practice?
Provisional death estimates provide an early indication of shifts in mortality trends. Timely and actionable data can guide public health policies and interventions for populations experiencing higher numbers of deaths that are directly or indirectly associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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CDC’s National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) collects and reports annual mortality statistics using data from U.S. death certificates. Because of the time needed to investigate certain causes of death and to process and review data, final annual mortality data for a given year are typically released 11 months after the end of the calendar year. Daily totals reported by CDC COVID-19 case surveillance are timely but can underestimate numbers of deaths because of incomplete or delayed reporting. As a result of improvements in timeliness and the pressing need for updated, quality data during the global COVID-19 pandemic, NVSS expanded provisional data releases to produce near real-time U.S. mortality data.* This report presents an overview of provisional U.S. mortality data for 2020, including the first ranking of leading causes of death. In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
Provisional does not mean that it is "just a guess" as you claim. It means that it is subject to change as more data comes in. And it may change .. a little. There could be fewer deaths or there could be more, but the final number of deaths is going to be very, very close to what the CDC has already published and what Ahmad and Anderson wrote. We will have the CDC's final numbers in November.
Incidentally, the "independent" Johns Hopkins says that, as of August 28, 638,720 people have died of Coronavirus in the United States:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Finally, while the article that I linked was published by the AMA, the two authors of the article do not work for the AMA. Rather, they are Farida B. Ahmad of the National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in and Robert Anderson, National Center for Health Statistics, Mortality Statistics Branch, Division of Vital Statistics, Hyattsville, Maryland.
I just emailed Farida Ahmad and asked him how close the final numbers will be for overall deaths in the United States in 2020 will be to what he published in March. I'll post his response.
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Beldozer1…
Your thinking is why over 600,000 Americans are dead… You espouse a moronic and idiotic, irresponsible viewpoint, that the weak minded and uneducated people in America will victimize themselves to believe; and spread that incompetent rhetoric to others, to fall victim to.
Get a life, and quit spreading destructive lies.
I still don't know anyone who has died from it. I did know a lady who died from the vaccine. Sensational reporting of individual anomalies is fear porn and the libs lap it up.
I've had both variants and they were weaker than the flu. More like seasonal allergies. Yes, tests confirmed it. I'm in good health. Stop the fear porn.
We have 300,000,000 people in this country. Your death statistic is minuscule compared to the financial damage being done to business owners lives and their families. The benefit to this country if all libs caught covid and died would be orgasmic and a day of great freedom.
I've had both variants and they were weaker than the flu. More like seasonal allergies. Yes, tests confirmed it. I'm in good health. Stop the fear porn.
We have 300,000,000 people in this country. Your death statistic is minuscule compared to the financial damage being done to business owners lives and their families. The benefit to this country if all libs caught covid and died would be orgasmic and a day of great freedom.
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God Bless America...... wishing and celebrating the death of fellow Americans because their beliefs are different than you and your cronies on here.
So it's an "educated guess" that's subject to change. Which is still a guess.
But I digress, your death numbers are inflated because many of these people that died had comorbidities. The stories of "cross fit buddy in great shape" that died of covid are outliers.
The OVERWHELMING majority of people that died from this were:
Over the age of 60
In poor health
Fat
Had a compromised immune system usually due to poor life choices, but some were genetic
Diabetic
If you are under the age of 55, not a fat fvck, healthy, you're chances of beating covid are 99.985%.
If you're under the age of 35 and healthy your chances are 99.992%.
Look, I get it, you're afraid. Just wear a t-shirt or a wave around a flag or maybe don some piece of clothing that let's us know you're afraid-- for whatever reason, legitimate or other-- and the rest of us will avoid you.
In the interim, I'm not going to be afraid. I watched on LIVE TV in April of 2020 as Dr Fauci exclaimed that if you suffer from respiratory diseases like asthma, this would probably be fatal. I accepted the challenge and did my best to get the disease. 2 months later I had it and never knew. Only a blood test revealed that I'd had it, kicked the living sh!t out of its weak ass, and then sh!t it out. So Fauci, yet again, had no fvcking clue what he was saying. A life long chronic asthmatic crushed this bug.
Then Dr Dipsh!t says that "natural immunity may not even last 6 months, at most, a year."
As of Friday last week, my blood test shows that I still have anti-bodies--- 15 months after.
So either I'm a medical miracle, or Fauci doesn't have a clue. I'm going with the latter.
It’s simply a super flu that culls off the weak, old, immune compromised, nothing more. Continue to hide under your bed with your mask on, I’ll continue to make fun of you
Well, I’m doing all I can to educate the masses. Thanks for taking the time out of your mask wearing day to grace us with your well thought out reply.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
Ah, the "comorbidities" canard again. As if it's relevant to the discussion we were having. Or is your point that they deserved to die because they were weak?
Presumably, those same people had those comorbidities when the year began. And when 2019 began. And other people --- but the same number, generally speaking ---- had comorbidities when 2015 began. And yet, in 2020, a hoax convinced a whole lot more of them to die. And convinced the mayor of Waco to tell us that his morgues are overflowing, to the point that FEMA is sending in a morgue trailer.
My sister has both asthma and high blood pressure. She's 57. She's had asthma all her life and high blood pressure for at least the last 20 years. But she manages them and, unless her body gets invaded by a virus that turns her lungs into "scraps of scar tissue loosely hung together and no longer involved in respiration," she'll probably live another 25 years, as did my mother, who also had high blood pressure and asthma.
Look, I get it. Nobody you love is overweight, has asthma etc... And you view this as just nature doing its thing, culling the weak. Whereas I have quite a few loved ones who are old, have a comorbidity etc... I'd rather not see them die in a way that has been described as slow-motion drowning. Especially since, as we know, that slow-motion drowning is a hoax.
Hornius Emeritus
Traces of Texas
No it isn't. Influenza is a respiratory disease. If you don't die from it, you recover. Covid, while having respiratory impacts, is also a vascular disease and has many repercussions that influenza doesn't have, including creating millions of tiny blood clots that, among other things, lead to strokes. And long Covid symptoms. And turning your lungs into ""scraps of scar tissue loosely hung together and no longer involved in respiration." And causing the mayor of Waco to go to a news conference and say that his health system is on the verge of collapse and that his morgues are overflowing.
Covid is a vascular disease
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What’s with you and the Mayor of Waco? You do bring him up a lot.
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