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If they go to 14 it's likely to replace Texas and OU...
Yay -- let's add a bunch of welfare-case mid-majors with small to tiny fan bases that do nothing to resolve the demographic problems that threaten the Big 12's long-term viability. Expansion for expansion's sake -- expansion that is ultimately dilutive, which is the only kind that the Big 12 can achieve -- is absolutely asinine, and this conference reliably makes the stupid decision.
I wish we could just blow this motherf**ker up already.
They've have an out.I wish, but I think there's no way of disentangling ourselves from this dung heap until 2025.
They've have an out.
They have cards to play, It doesn't pertain to the Texas and WV clause folks refer to. The chips will fall or they'll help blow it all up.I hope you're right, but I don't see it. If it relies on the argument that some contract attorney made in an article a couple of years back ("Myth of the Big 12's GOR," or something to that effect), others have already pointed out a fatal unfounded assumption that he made, unfortunately.
No team is stuck in a conference if they are willing to pay an excessive out clause.
This has been decided it court decades ago. A University cannot be forced to stay in a conference. But most of the time the out clause is so huge it keeps them in. But if Texas wanted to leave tomorrow they legally could.
They have cards to play, It doesn't pertain to the Texas and WV clause folks refer to. The chips will fall or they'll help blow it all up.
No, it's not from a written article.I don't mean this as a challenge, but do you have a link to anything describing what our possible out would be? I would love to have some small reason to hope.
This discussion is based in part on bad assumptions about how contracts work. Courts almost never force performance under a contract. Rather, they decide the penalty for breaching the contract. We don't need an "out" per se, but the admin would have to consider how big of a penalty we would be looking at and if we are willing to pay it. Also, there is always the option of trying to buy our way out.
From what I have seen people seem to think we are free to play in another conference but our TV rights would stay behind. Assuming that the contract in fact says this would be the remedy for breach (aka liquidated damages), know one knows whether a court would enforce it.It's been a while, but the argument that I've seen says that this misconceives the nature of the GOR (and is the same argument that the contract lawyer wrote in a column for some sports blog). Wish I could find those old discussions or remember where I've read them.
From what I have seen people seem to think we are free to play in another conference but our TV rights would stay behind. Assuming that the contract in fact says this would be the remedy for breach (aka liquidated damages), know one knows whether a court would enforce it.
It's been HOW many years now and you're just coming up with "Bowlsby is a buffoon".....?Maybe Boren is playing the long con. Maybe this is all a ruse to blow the thing up and he's super intelligent. I doubt it though. The most likely scenario is that he and Bowlsby are complete buffoons.
You think this is possible? If you are going west BYU, Colorado State, SDSU, and Boise might work. Stealing PAC12 teams seems like a huge stretch to me.Maybe the BIGXII can raid the PAC12 and get the Arizona schools, Colorado, then add BYU.
But a breach doesn't exactly trigger this; we've already given our TV rights to the conference. I haven't seen the contract, nor do I deal with contract law, but I think the argument is that our present arrangement is incongruent with the liquidated damages paradigm. We turned over our TV rights to the Big 12 until 2025, and the matter of where our TV rights reside is entirely independent of any decisions we make about conference membership (so goes the argument).
Stealing PAC12 teams seems like a huge stretch to me.