Bomb is alive and well

[Belldozer1]

Dozer.....we apparently are talking past each other.We are discussing completely different things. I will type slower...The OP was not blaming Mack,,,,The whole point was that of all the olinemen,,,only one was a player. I wont be discussing this again....because you have no idea what I am talking about.

Oh no I fully understand where you and Bomb are coming from and my breakdown on the first page fully debunked that. You cannot expect Mack to look 4 years down the road in a crystal ball to see how players turn out before he recruits them. According to the experts and other schools, evidenced by these kids resumes and accolades AND the fact that they were courted by otger big time schools tells me what I need to know about their talent. Also you cannot expect Mack to have left Charlie a sophomore OT who plays like a 5th year senior. Sorry, Mack cannot develop players if he's not here. The fact that Bomb is conjuring up this thread to try to explain away the last 2 years at this point is quite comical really. We will have to agree to disagree on this debate.

 

[utisdabomb12]

According to the experts and other schools, evidenced by these kids resumes and accolades AND the fact that they were courted by otger big time schools tells me what I need to know about their talent.

Recruiting rankings are hit and miss, so not sure what your point is. Not a single OL that Mack left has even made a NFL roster (not even as an undrafted free agent). That's all you need to know about talent level.

Your "coaching up" argument is also ridiculous since Strong's first recruiting class had 2 freshman All American offensive lineman (Vahe and Williams). Amazing what happens when Strong has a little talent to work with huh?

Only an idiot would think that Strong was left with talent on the offensive line. The facts are the facts. 2 of the more "talented" OL that Strong had to run off couldn't even consistently start at South Alabama and Sam Houston State. But hey, all that talent.

 

[TexExSpur]

Doozer, you didn't debunk a damn thing. Actual snaps at the D1 level and the fact none of them have contributed elsewhere completely trump their HS evaluations.

The FACT this staff had 2 freshmen ALL AMERICANS at LT and LG that they recruited, debunks your theory that they can't coach.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Does bell think he debunked why it's 6:17 pm and ou still sux?

 

[Belldozer1]

Doozer, you didn't debunk a damn thing. Actual snaps at the D1 level and the fact none of them have contributed elsewhere completely trump their HS evaluations.

The FACT this staff had 2 freshmen ALL AMERICANS at LT and LG that they recruited, debunks your theory that they can't coach.

Who was their coach and where is he now? Sounds like you're questioning Charlie's coaching moves? Apparently Charlie agrees that it was a coaching issue. Go argue with him.

 

[TexExSpur]

LMAO, you're everywhere. Based on your assesements.... They're simply talented.

I mean, the same coaches couldn't coach up Browns leftovers per the profound professor bell' logic.

You're simply digging a deeper hole, let it go.

 

[Belldozer1]

LMAO, you're everywhere. Based on your assesements.... They're simply talented.

I mean, the same coaches couldn't coach up Browns leftovers per the profound professor bell' logic.

You're simply digging a deeper hole, let it go.

You're either too much of a homer and being obtuse or you truly don't get it although I think you finally understand. Yes, there was talent, it was coaching. Hence the coaching carousel. You could have agreed on the first page instead of dragging it all out. Come on FB season!!

 

[TexExSpur]

No dumbass! Your too dense to have a logical football discussion with. If they had talent but the coaches were the problem the same coaches wouldn't produce two freshman All-Americans. Coaching is not even the major factor in Wickline not being here, but I'm sure you knew that.

Have another Natty Light and party on. I'm out.

 

[OULegacy76]

Change of subject.... anyone wanna do a wager with me on the Ou/Texas game this year? Doesn't have to be $$$, it can be a sig bet.

 

[oldhorn2]

Fizz and I do the same bet every year....not much fun when we lose.

 

[OULegacy76]

What does it consist of

 

[oldhorn2]

Simple.... If OU wins I walk out in front of my house and sing that crappy OU fight song. If Texas wins, Fizz does the singing.

 

[Godz40Acrez]

Simple.... If OU wins I walk out in front of my house and sing that crappy OU fight song. If Texas wins, Fizz does the singing.

With Fizz or any other land thief, you need audio/video proof they did it. Just sayin'.

 

[oldhorn2]

I trust that Fizz holds up his end of the bargain because he is also an old guy and we tend to do what we say we will do.


I did give you a like however.....

 

[OULegacy76]

Godz care for a sig bet? Or money bet for charity?

 

[Son of Wasatch]

The current staff will have the best OL unit and the best depth they have had since Charlie joined Texas. QB has by far been a bigger issue.

This is the best online talent Texas has had since 2006. And that group was a holdover from 2005.

Uh, it seems like the Charlie Strong Choo Choo train derailed a couple of OC's back? The good new is, Bwilk55, for teams like OU and Texas with the basic talent they both pull in every year both teams should be good for AT LEAST 7 or 8 wins a year with decent coaching. So, with the new OC bringing new ideas and the D getting a few more stops it's not hard to fathom a better Texas team this year. I like the young qb Buechele (sp?) And I think you would agree it's a major year for Coach Strong to show major improvements in the 8+ win category. Wouldn't you agree. BTW, I like that "Charlie Strong Choo Choo Train" it's kind of catchy, I may borrow that if you don't mind.

So are you saying our current offense is a train wreck?

Haha well looky here I am glad you could check back in and realize that another of your fairytales has been debunked.......Good grief dude, the excuses have to end at some point and I have a feeling this is the magic year. Either Charlie get things going with his 3rd OC or the experiment is over in my opinion. You're a legend in your own mind

I don't see where you did anything but tell us we signed guys that were ranked as 4'star prospects.

If the rankings were an exact science you would see the rivals 100 all drafted every year. It's not. Granted some of our problems were due to horrible coaching, but the fact is that McWhorter recruited guys to fit a specific system and then Mack changed the system after we lost to Alabama. He went from a finess system to a down hill running system featuring Malcolm Brown and Johnathan Gray. Basically the same as entering a Prius in a street race. We suffered for it and it eventually cost Mack his job.

Some of those guys were good, but for whatever reason they didn't fit into the system Strong was trying to run, or they just couldn't keep the rules.

If you look at our starters this year all but one is a Charlie Strong recruit, and that one might be the best olinemen Mack recruited since about 2006.

 

[OULegacy76]

I just don't see Strong as the answer. I see Texas losing several games yet again. Would a losing record put Strong on the hot seat?

 

[TexExSpur]

I just don't see Strong as the answer. I see Texas losing several games yet again. Would a losing record put Strong on the hot seat?

A losing record is 5-7 or 6-7, yes... He would be out.

 

[OULegacy76]

Wow you think? I think it would depend on who he lost to

 

[NDAFArly]

ND had multiple 3 stars drafted last year in the first 3 rounds (Nick Martin & CJ Procise) & a high3/low 4 (Will Fuller).
Also had a very low 4 from the year before get named All Pro in the NFL.
The recruiting services are about 50% accurate with ND players that I have seen. Can't speak for Texas.

 

[TexExSpur]

Wow you think? I think it would depend on who he lost to

it would be tough for him to survive either of those scenerios. If you have any fear of what he is capable of producing, hope for 6-6 with a bowl loss. All it takes is a bowl win off a 6-6 season and I think he would secure a fourth year, I hope he gets it.

 

[TexExSpur]

ND had multiple 3 stars drafted last year in the first 3 rounds (Nick Martin & CJ Procise) & a high3/low 4 (Will Fuller).
Also had a very low 4 from the year before get named All Pro in the NFL.
The recruiting services are about 50% accurate with ND players that I have seen. Can't speak for Texas.

Charlie Strong has had a bunch of 3star prospects drafted. If he can secure this gig, he'll have s lot more.

 

[TexExSpur]

Yet another OL recruit Mack attempted to sign...

 

[TexExSpur]

 

[NDAFArly]

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Are they putting him on the left for pass blocking or the right for run? Or does it matter?

 

[TexExSpur]

Are they putting him on the left for pass blocking or the right for run? Or does it matter?

He's our LT.

 

[swVAHorn]

Are they putting him on the left for pass blocking or the right for run? Or does it matter?

Do you see how on this very thread we have dozer acting exactly like decker? He gets completely BLOWN out of the water...then claims victory. It is staggering how ignorant he is. So don't feel like you guys have the only one. If I ever have an opinion where 99.9% of everyone is telling me I am wrong I am going to start rethinking it...not dig myself deeper. Dozer has not such filter.

 

[clob94]

it would be tough for him to survive either of those scenerios. If you have any fear of what he is capable of producing, hope for 6-6 with a bowl loss. All it takes is a bowl win off a 6-6 season and I think he would secure a fourth year, I hope he gets it.

If you're willing to settle for 6-6 this year.....boy have I got good news for you.

 

[TexExSpur]

If you're willing to settle for 6-6 this year.....boy have I got good news for you.

Settle? Nah, but I think he survives 6-6 with a bowl win should it play out as such. I'm hoping for an 8 win season at the minimum.

 

[clob94]

Settle? Nah, but I think he survives 6-6 with a bowl win should it play out as such. I'm hoping for an 8 win season at the minimum.

Like my grandpa used to say "wish in one hand and sh!t in the other and let me know which one fills up first......"

 

[TexExSpur]

Like my grandpa used to say "wish in one hand and sh!t in the other and let me know which one fills up first......"

So, you're feeling pretty good about 4-8 then I suppose. Good thing my liquor cabinet stays stocked....

 

[Longyac]

So, reading between the posts clob is predicting 7-5?

 

[clob94]

It's coming soon. Be patient my brudda.

 

[Belldozer1]

Do you see how on this very thread we have dozer acting exactly like decker? He gets completely BLOWN out of the water...then claims victory. It is staggering how ignorant he is. So don't feel like you guys have the only one. If I ever have an opinion where 99.9% of everyone is telling me I am wrong I am going to start rethinking it...not dig myself deeper. Dozer has not such filter.

SWVAHorn do you believe that Mack left Charlie with talent on the D side of the ball? He brought in alot of 4 star's over on that side of the ball as well as on the offensive side of the ball. I haven't seen you complain too much about them even though your D finished 107th last year. Is that coaching or talent? Maybe you and Bomb can put together another mythical list of the lack of recruited talent on the D side of the ball that Mack left that I can debunk.

 

[TexExSpur]

Debunk the fact that Mack left the roster thin at DT, it's a fact. You haven't debunked anything in this thread.

Strong had his own miss with the kid that wouldn't apply himself to take the foreign language recruitment so he enrolled at OU. But, his latest haul made up for that tool.

There are only 5 players left over from the 2013 class. From that class, Roberson was talented, but concussions lead him to transfer in hopes of being cleared to play.

Not too mention the offense sucking hind tit and causing the defense to exhaust all efforts on the field. Do you even football bro?

Overall, Mack left far more talent on defense and the 2015 draft proved that.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/re...s-longhorns-scholarship-chart-recruiting-2014

This is what Strong had starting in 2014, his last 2 classes have been fantastic and Thank God he pulled 2 DT's in 2014 in Poona Ford and Chris Nelson!