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I'd like to think that if they make a damn good argument, that I'd be open-minded enough to consider it.
I am also in your camp but MM is right the people who get mad and call the other side names and un American and all that other stuff you ain't changing their minds dude. Both sides have some very good thoughts and if we Americans would listen to each other and not just listen to what we already agree with then we could make this country better.

It is when you think one party is ALWAYS RIGHT and the other is the Devil....then it is only going to get worse. I mean educated people lose their minds over politics....Anymore people get to pick their own facts and truth. It is nuts.

MM is right you ain't changing 99.9% of people's minds.
 
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You may want to back out of this statement bell. Unless you are just trying to be funny (which it is not) then you and I and everybody on this board knows that crime will still happen...shootings will still happen after Jan 20.
Nope, not interested in backing out of this statement. Accountability and enforcement of current laws are coming back in full force Jan. 20. Illegals with crime records are gone first. Rioters that get out of control with their looting and self serving crimes will be put back in line. Not sure why enforcement of current laws bothers you but it apparently does.
 
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I am also in your camp but MM is right the people who get mad and call the other side names and un American and all that other stuff you ain't changing their minds dude. Both sides have some very good thoughts and if we Americans would listen to each other and not just listen to what we already agree with then we could make this country better.

It is when you think one party is ALWAYS RIGHT and the other is the Devil....then it is only going to get worse. I mean educated people lose their minds over politics....Anymore people get to pick their own facts and truth. It is nuts.

MM is right you ain't changing 99.9% of people's minds.
Agree 110%, but even if zero people are changing minds, that doesn't mean you ought not say something. Imagine if you're in Nazi Germany, or Pol Pot's Cambodia, and you have a chance to stand up for what's right. You do it, even if they keep going that same wrong way. MLK, Jr. didn't change many minds, before he was killed. Neither did Jesus. But they kept on saying the things that needed to be said.

Now, I'm not saying any of us are Jesus or even MLK2--certainly not me!--or anyone on OB is needing me to tell them the what-for. If you've been on OB for long, you know that. That's not what I'm about. I'm just using it as an example.

For example, someone says everything's going to be better after January 20th. I doubt it. That doesn't mean I have to reply. For anyone with a halfway open mind, time will tell.

But then someone calls a black man a boy, or uses the N-word. Well, if no one else is going to call them out, I sure will. It needs to be said. The epithet / pejorative can't be allowed to be the last word. Even if no minds change. That just can't be, to let that go. As an online community, it would be unethical for us to allow that to happen. If LonghornMM is ever slow to deal with it, we must. Nip that crap in the bud!
 
Nope, not interested in backing out of this statement. Accountability and enforcement of current laws are coming back in full force Jan. 20. Illegals with crime records are gone first. Rioters that get out of control with their looting and self serving crimes will be put back in line. Not sure why enforcement of current laws bothers you but it apparently does.
Do you have a mental problem? For real? Because I NEVER SAID I DID NOT WANT LAWS ENFORCED!!

I am just saying there will still be crime after Jan 20. And now I will point it out to you every time it happens. Something is very wrong with you.
 
Do you have a mental problem? For real? Because I NEVER SAID I DID NOT WANT LAWS ENFORCED!!

I am just saying there will still be crime after Jan 20. And now I will point it out to you every time it happens. Something is very wrong with you.
As much as it pains you, Trump will be sworn in Jan. 20. When did I ever claim there would not be crime after Jan. 20? Do you have a mental problem? No, you have a butt hurt problem. For a guy who claims not to have a party affiliation, you sure walk through life with a definite left lean, and that's ok. Just be aware that come Jan. 20, there will be repurcussions for the bs that has been encouraged and played out on tv for the last couple of years. There is no place in society for individuals like that.
 
Mic drop moment. Agree and law and order will be restored Jan. 20.
You said it right here actually. Let me guess what you wrote did not mean what you wrote? I am putting you back on ignore.


A person like you who is so far right that he can't ever disagree with his party would see it that way. I don't like Trump and I wish he had not won but it wasn't because I loved Clinton. I think Trump is a mistake.....BUT and this is the difference between people like you and people like me.....I HOPE TRUMP IS GREAT!! I hope I was wrong about him. You would never say the same about his opponent. I love my country and I will not wish someone to fail so that I could say "told you so" to someone like you. I have voted for both parties.....Reagan would not be a republican in today's political landscape. I am done with this.

I only wanted to give you a chance to walk back law and order will be restored.....I should have known you would change it to something else.

All of us need to look in the mirror and start listening before it is too late. These lines that are being drawn are dangerous.
 
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You said it right here actually. Let me guess what you wrote did not mean what you wrote? I am putting you back on ignore.


A person like you who is so far right that he can't ever disagree with his party would see it that way. I don't like Trump and I wish he had not won but it wasn't because I loved Clinton. I think Trump is a mistake.....BUT and this is the difference between people like you and people like me.....I HOPE TRUMP IS GREAT!! I hope I was wrong about him. You would never say the same about his opponent. I love my country and I will not wish someone to fail so that I could say "told you so" to someone like you. I have voted for both parties.....Reagan would not be a republican in today's political landscape. I am done with this.

I only wanted to give you a chance to walk back law and order will be restored.....I should have known you would change it to something else.

All of us need to look in the mirror and start listening before it is too late. These lines that are being drawn are dangerous.
I did say the same thing about Obama. I hoped like hell he would do good for the sake of the country. He didn't and hasn't. It's time for a fundamental change in America and Trump will be ushering that in. Is Trump without fault? No, but he certainly believes in putting America and her citizens first. Obama claimed the other day that that no acts of terrorism have taken place on American soil in the last 8 years. That belief my friend is just one of many why drastic change in America is needed and coming shortly. Um, as to your comments about law and order, the laws are already in place. Nobody ever insinuated that America would be crime free once Trump takes over. Did I say that? No,so let me be very clear just for you.I believe Trump will enforce the laws already on the books and hopefully create some new ones . I am hopeful he goes full force ahead enforcing the laws already enacted on immigration, too.
 
Is Trump without fault? No, but he certainly believes in putting America and her citizens first.

Just like any politician it's a wait and see. I don't believe anyone until it's proven! I can say I'm going to save this country would you believe me?
 
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