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Merit: I would think being an OC at Ohio state winning a National Championship with backup QB's,turning around a Houston program, and I think Texas now is recruiting well and also Herman will do a better job in developing the talent which has been some what lacking in past texas Programs.
 
No doubt 75mm is a lot and we might/probably overpaid. The move to the SEC has been a huge positive cash flow (revenues of over 215 million this year) for us which enables us to do this. A new basketball arena is in the plans already...we have not won the SEC in football yet and it will probably take awhile with Bama, Ga, auburn, Lsu, etc. But we have won the SEC IN basketball and baseball and our national profile is so much better than being in the Big 12.

Cash in the form of notes payable is not a net positive. It's the recipe for bankruptcy. Cash in the form of revenue received from espn is a net positive. Leveraging the future in hopes of the all elusive aggy NC is going to fail. If aggy didn't covet what big bro has, it could have won much more than it has but all the scheming and cheating works against aggy to produce failure.
 
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Cash in the form of notes payable is not a net positive. It's the recipe for bankruptcy. Cash in the form of revenue received from espn is a net positive. Leveraging the future in hopes of the all elusive aggy NC is going to fail. If aggy didn't covet what big bro has, it could have won much more than it has but all the scheming and cheating works against them to produce failure.

We had 215MM in revenues last year. It is why we can afford to pay Fisher that much and the resources he has is why he wants to come.
 
the resources that Jimbo came for was 7.5 million per year for 10 years guaranteed. At FSU he had a much higher profile than he ever will at aTm. By profile I mean National standing. FSU has it...aTm doesnt. That 75 million that will take him right up to and into retirement was all the incentive he would ever need. Have you ever considered ( while you are talking about Herman's perceived shortcomings) that yall just got a coach that rode Jamis Winston to high reputation and that in fact he might turn out to be Gene Chizik
 
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Seriously Bob....and this is a no smack honest opinion from me to you.....Both aTm fans and Horn fans alike might be well advised to silently watch this season play out and THEN start that smack battle. OU and Bama have earned the right to spout off all they want. We have to earn our way up to that level.
 
215 in revenues? I thought 160 million of that was in fact stadium donations/notes. Maybe I am wrong.
 
Seriously Bob....and this is a no smack honest opinion from me to you.....Both aTm fans and Horn fans alike might be well advised to silently watch this season play out and THEN start that smack battle. OU and Bama have earned the right to spout off all they want. We have to earn our way up to that level.

Completely disagree oldhorn. There is no reason to lump Texas and A&M into the same category just because Texas is going through a transition lull. Texas is a blue blood and has 'been there'. They are a made man. A&M is not a blue blood nor a made man. Even if they ever win a championship they'll still never be able to sit at that table.
 
"This is part of your problem at Texas. Fans are already calling for Herman'shead after one season! I would at least give him two years. I hope he sucks but I don't see why he will after one year. Nobody wants to pay dues anymore."

Aggy joe.....the only ones calling for Hermans head are aggy trolls like yourself. It wont be year 1,2,3,4 but year 5 of the same results Fisher gets that Sumlin would have will be having those milkboys grabbing and holding more than their crotches......realizing yall have another 5 years of mediocrity with king fisher.
Don't know what you mean by troll, but I've heard a lot of people over here talking about how the sky is falling and the guy hadn't even been there a year. If none of you have heard that then I stand corrected. I make no bones about hoping he fails but I don't get how some already have written him off, and if that is the case, your "top tier" status won't matter because perception of delusional expectations will harm you. It has already to a point. You should win no less than 9 games this year minimum. If you do that you should be off and running.
 
Completely disagree oldhorn. There is no reason to lump Texas and A&M into the same category just because Texas is going through a transition lull. Texas is a blue blood and has 'been there'. They are a made man. A&M is not a blue blood nor a made man. Even if they ever win a championship they'll still never be able to sit at that table.
Sorry, but this just isn't true. FSU and Miami were both Tier 2 or below at one point. I know you would hate it, but if we hit a hot streak like they did, we would be at the table no doubt. Nebraska is no longer there and you are no longer there for the time being. You have a much better chance of getting back than they do, but as of now, you are not. If you want to argue that we have always underachieved, will continue to do so, and will never win a national championship, that is fair, based on reality, but to say we would never be at the table, no matter how much success we had is simply false.
 
Don't know what you mean by troll, but I've heard a lot of people over here talking about how the sky is falling and the guy hadn't even been there a year. If none of you have heard that then I stand corrected. I make no bones about hoping he fails but I don't get how some already have written him off, and if that is the case, your "top tier" status won't matter because perception of delusional expectations will harm you. It has already to a point. You should win no less than 9 games this year minimum. If you do that you should be off and running.

No one is calling for his head. And you must think Texas is going to be really good (and much better than A&M) to at a minimum win at least 9 with that schedule.
 
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Yeah, tell us how that sec move went again.
 
"perception of delusional expectations will harm you."
Like the "perception of delusional expectations" such as aggy being a tier one football program? If anyone has these kind of expectations it has been aggy since 1939 and yes it has harmed them to the point they are the butt of aggy jokes. So i guess aggyjoe you know first hand
 
Sorry, but this just isn't true. FSU and Miami were both Tier 2 or below at one point. I know you would hate it, but if we hit a hot streak like they did, we would be at the table no doubt. Nebraska is no longer there and you are no longer there for the time being. You have a much better chance of getting back than they do, but as of now, you are not. If you want to argue that we have always underachieved, will continue to do so, and will never win a national championship, that is fair, based on reality, but to say we would never be at the table, no matter how much success we had is simply false.

FSU isn't a blue blood. Neither is Miami. Texas having a few bad seasons doesn't remove a century of tradition. Just as a few good seasons A&M may have someday won't get you a seat at the blue blood table.
 
To this Bob Weltlich fellow. Rather than respond to every one of your bs threads let me say that I refuse to take seriously the opinions of someone who chose to name himself after a failed basketball coach. And I hope other longhorn fans keep this in mind next time he posts something
 
This is not basketball. I would call FSU a definite blueblood. Going back before the forward pass behooves you I know.
 
Joeag....you can't invent a false theory...I.e. Fans are giving up on Herman....and then use this supposition as the basis of your argument. We!!, you can, but it negates any point you were trying to make.

You need to forget that idea as it is false news known only to aggy.
 
This is not basketball. I would call FSU a definite blueblood. Going back before the forward pass behooves you I know.

No. If you wanted to make a long list of good programs and/or programs that have been good recently or currently then yeah they would be on it. The historic blue bloods are: (six come in pairs) Ohio St/Michigan, Texas/OU, Notre Dame/USC, and then you have Nebraska and Alabama.

That never changes, that's written in stone.
 
Yes those are historic, but at what point does the history start and at what point does lack of success tarnish it? I would put Penn State historically there. What about Princeton, Yale? Hell, Auburn and Tennessee both have more titles than you.
 
Yes those are historic, but at what point does the history start and at what point does lack of success tarnish it? I would put Penn State historically there. What about Princeton, Yale? Hell, Auburn and Tennessee both have more titles than you.

Joe the 8 Blue Bloods will never change. It's like telling a Cowboy fan they're not America's team. It is what it is and it's part of history it's not going to change because you want it to.
 
Joag....I call bullshit on that!....List for me the years that Auburn and Tennessee have won titles in football

You have been just throwing crap out there with no basis in fact. No damned wonder aTm has all those fake titles chisled on the wall......they dont research much.
 
Yes those are historic, but at what point does the history start and at what point does lack of success tarnish it? I would put Penn State historically there. What about Princeton, Yale? Hell, Auburn and Tennessee both have more titles than you.


List them douche bag. I would also take into account the historic win loss records of each school and their competition. And yes I know, we need to remove all those wins over aggy because they have sucked over the years and really shouldn't count all those games cause aggy was forced to play with white guys.
 
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FSU isn't a blue blood. Neither is Miami. Texas having a few bad seasons doesn't remove a century of tradition. Just as a few good seasons A&M may have someday won't get you a seat at the blue blood table.
List them douche bag. I would also take into account the historic win loss records of each school and their competition. And yes I know, we need to remove all those wins over aggy because they have sucked over the years and really shouldn't count all those games cause aggy was forced to play with white guys.

Nueces,

List your top 10 programs all time from top to bottom. We’ll see if you are biased or not.
 
Negative, it's not needed as history is on our side.

Is Texas history as good as Alabama's?

I don't think your history is nearly as good as you claim. Texas has always had a ton of resources and competitive advantages and certainly has a good history, but not great. Especially since we have had scholarship limits and the playing field has been leveled. Texas would probably in the top 10, but in the lower part of the top 10.
 
Is Texas history as good as Alabama's?

I don't think your history is nearly as good as you claim. Texas has always had a ton of resources and competitive advantages and certainly has a good history, but not great. Especially since we have had scholarship limits and the playing field has been leveled. Texas would probably in the top 10, but in the lower part of the top 10.

Bob you can look up on google who the top 10 winningest programs in college football are. You can also look up the Blue Bloods. You can also look up that Texas is better than A&M in most sports if not all. Why are you throwing Alabama out there when it's obviously not your school or the school you're a fan of. Is it because you're in the sec now and that's what you're most proud of?
 
Bob you can look up on google who the top 10 winningest programs in college football are. You can also look up the Blue Bloods. You can also look up that Texas is better than A&M in most sports if not all. Why are you throwing Alabama out there when it's obviously not your school is it because you're in the sec now and that's what you're most proud of?
 
Bob you can look up on google who the top 10 winningest programs in college football are. You can also look up the Blue Bloods. You can also look up that Texas is better than A&M in most sports if not all. Why are you throwing Alabama out there when it's obviously not your school is it because you're in the sec now and that's what you're most proud of?

Drew,

I totally agree with you. Texas is better than A&M in pretty much every sport except maybe a few Olympic Sports, maybe Women's Basketball. You guys should be as you have had double the resources for pretty much the entire time. That is not what I was talking about. Now that the resources are pretty much the same, we will see what we can do.

I did look up the # of national championships and It was about what I thought it would be. You guys are in the lower part of the top 10. In the modern era of college football where the playing field has been somewhat leveled, you have 1, so I think you would be out of the top 10.

Now, you can or Nueces can give me your top 10 if you wish.
 
Drew,

I totally agree with you. Texas is better than A&M in pretty much every sport except maybe a few Olympic Sports, maybe Women's Basketball. You guys should be as you have had double the resources for pretty much the entire time. That is not what I was talking about. Now that the resources are pretty much the same, we will see what we can do.

I did look up the # of national championships and It was about what I thought it would be. You guys are in the lower part of the top 10. In the modern era of college football where the playing field has been somewhat leveled, you have 1, so I think you would be out of the top 10.

Now, you can or Nueces can give me your top 10 if you wish.

Right it sucks that in the Mack Brown era we were consistently in the Top 10 year in and year out. We played for 2 NC's and won 1. We're down but it won't last forever which I know that's what A&M fan wants but you guys know it won't that's EXACTLY why you paid 75 mil for a bunch of rainbows and hopes.

"so I think you would be out of the top 10."

Keep thinking or hoping. It's not gonna happen.

"Now, you can or Nueces can give me your top 10 if you wish."

My top 10 football program includes Texas and definitely not A&M so what does it matter.
 
Is Texas history as good as Alabama's?

I don't think your history is nearly as good as you claim. Texas has always had a ton of resources and competitive advantages and certainly has a good history, but not great. Especially since we have had scholarship limits and the playing field has been leveled. Texas would probably in the top 10, but in the lower part of the top 10.


Go check the wrap sheet on alabama's athletic dept... and while you're at it, go check the entire $ec's wrap sheet including aggy.
 
Is Texas history as good as Alabama's?

I don't think your history is nearly as good as you claim. Texas has always had a ton of resources and competitive advantages and certainly has a good history, but not great. Especially since we have had scholarship limits and the playing field has been leveled. Texas would probably in the top 10, but in the lower part of the top 10.

Stop with the BS and lame attempts to denigrate Texas. Your act is old. You're skating on very thin ice here.
 
So it appears that Joeag having been asked to defend his dumbass statements has decided to disappear.
 
So it appears that Joeag having been asked to defend his dumbass statements has decided to disappear.

So far, the aggys posting in this thread are full of dumbass comments. They can't help but show their obsession, jealousy and envy of Texas.
 
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