Since Ketch locked the other thread on Inside the 40 acres, I'm starting this one in the Corral.
You don't have to assume. I'm not black. I'm white.
I have been pulled over. It's not a pleasant experience. I always try to be respectful and follow instructions. It's worked well for me for the most part, although there was one officer who was a rude prick. I can understand blacks being more nervous about such encounters. There are historical abuses by police. It's understandable that those experiences get passed down from one generation to another. There is a relatively recent Harvard study that found use of force was more prevalent among minorities than whites, so there is a present day basis, as well. Of course, the same study found that blacks were less likely to be shot in police encounters than whites, so take it fwiw.
It's interesting that you bring up what people of color "feel" and reference the example of a child fearing the dark. In neither case do I deny the feeling. But, as you know, a child's fear of the dark is often not warranted. What if I told you that there were 3000 black victims of homicide in the last year, and that 2,600 of those 3,000 were victims of black offenders? Additionally, let's say over the same one year period, out of 1,000 people killed by police, 223 were black. Now, regardless of what people feel, don't those numbers suggest that black people are much more likely to be killed by another black person rather than a cop or a white person?
I'm going to reiterate that I don't post this to excuse police brutality or any type of race-motivated crime. Those crimes need to be punished. The officer in this case needs to be punished. I post this to dispute the narrative that blacks should live in fear due to racism or police brutality.
Did you read it? There is nothing in there saying that the overwhelming majority of blacks suffer from PTSD due to racism. If I missed that, or something close to that, let me know.
I'll assume you're not black...
The "instances" you refer to have been going on for centuries... yep, literally centuries. If you don't think that has a profound impact on how black parents raise their children and how black people think about white folks, I can't help you.
Go out and make it a point to truly befriend a black person. Get to know them, try (as impossible as it will be) to see the world through their lens. Have you ever been pulled over for speeding or running a red light? As the white officer approaches your car, do you have an engrained thought / fear in the back of your mind that you might die right there even though you know you've done nothing wrong? Every single black person I know personally understands these fears... you might think, this is like a child fearing the dark and it's completely unnecessary / unjustified, but does that change the way that child feels about the dark?
When you oppress a race or religious sector for generations upon generations, it takes generations upon generations to undo the damage. Racism is alive and well in the USA and it's not that it's getting worse... it's just getting filmed and now there's more irrefutable evidence of the heinous crimes against people of color. Look, I'm not saying that there isn't evil shit happening to folks of all color, but if you can't acknowledge that people of color are still not on an equal footing as their white counterparts, you're in denial or simply uninformed.
You don't have to assume. I'm not black. I'm white.
I have been pulled over. It's not a pleasant experience. I always try to be respectful and follow instructions. It's worked well for me for the most part, although there was one officer who was a rude prick. I can understand blacks being more nervous about such encounters. There are historical abuses by police. It's understandable that those experiences get passed down from one generation to another. There is a relatively recent Harvard study that found use of force was more prevalent among minorities than whites, so there is a present day basis, as well. Of course, the same study found that blacks were less likely to be shot in police encounters than whites, so take it fwiw.
It's interesting that you bring up what people of color "feel" and reference the example of a child fearing the dark. In neither case do I deny the feeling. But, as you know, a child's fear of the dark is often not warranted. What if I told you that there were 3000 black victims of homicide in the last year, and that 2,600 of those 3,000 were victims of black offenders? Additionally, let's say over the same one year period, out of 1,000 people killed by police, 223 were black. Now, regardless of what people feel, don't those numbers suggest that black people are much more likely to be killed by another black person rather than a cop or a white person?
I'm going to reiterate that I don't post this to excuse police brutality or any type of race-motivated crime. Those crimes need to be punished. The officer in this case needs to be punished. I post this to dispute the narrative that blacks should live in fear due to racism or police brutality.
UTBro said:That will not be very difficult.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culturally-speaking/201509/the-link-between-racism-and-ptsd
Did you read it? There is nothing in there saying that the overwhelming majority of blacks suffer from PTSD due to racism. If I missed that, or something close to that, let me know.