Devin Duvernay is free!

[Bwilk55]

In a strange twist, the Duvernay family discover that Baylor had never sent in his NLI. With an invalid NLI, he is not bound to Baylor and is free to go elsewhere. His brother's NLI was sent in however, so he will have to go through the formal process to be released.

This could get interesting. If his brother doesn't get a release, does Devin stay at BU? Playing together was a major factor for these two. Does Devin leave his brother at BU and go play elsewhere without him? That would seem to be the most likely way for UT to get him on campus as it is unlikely that we take the pair. Hopefully, Donovan can get released and these brothers can find a new home to play together.

 

[Scholz]

If the staff thinks that the duo is worth taking, then I'm all for it. Devin seems to be an explosive playmaker and we need those. I'm eyeing Cobb and Hudson of course but if we have room, get them all if we can.

 

[diadevic]

If the staff thinks that the duo is worth taking, then I'm all for it. Devin seems to be an explosive playmaker and we need those. I'm eyeing Cobb and Hudson of course but if we have room, get them all if we can.

When all this broke last week, the rumor was both to TCU. Don't know how accurate that is - same source said Briles would still be coach.

 

[Scholz]

I could see that.

 

[TexExSpur]

TCU doesn't have much room to play with as I understand it.

 

[diadevic]

Funniest post I've seen in this whole debacle from BU fan - someone's head needs to roll over this fiasco. But unfortunately all the heads have already rolled.

 

[john_behr]

I saw earlier that one of them has a girlfriend coming to Texas to play soccer, so that could also be a factor.

 

[Maverick1971]

BU is catching a lot of PR heat for not granting releases to the 2016 signees. My guess is they ultimately will grant them but will restrict to schools outside of Big 12 and the NCAA will likely lift the requirement to sit out 1 year.
Devin D. is certainly the beneficiary of more incompetence from the BU athletic dept.

 

[bubba2023]

BU is catching a lot of PR heat for not granting releases to the 2016 signees. My guess is they ultimately will grant them but will restrict to schools outside of Big 12 and the NCAA will likely lift the requirement to sit out 1 year.
Devin D. is certainly the beneficiary of more incompetence from the BU athletic dept.

There is no restrictions on releasing NLIs. They aren't transfers so they aren't sitting out a year, either they are released or they aren't. Once you release them from the NLIs there are no caveats about where they end up.

 

[Maverick1971]

There is no restrictions on releasing NLIs. They aren't transfers so they aren't sitting out a year, either they are released or they aren't. Once you release them from the NLIs there are no caveats about where they end up.

Once a player signs an NLI they are a member of team just as a junior or senior. Is this not correct? Or are you saying because they possibly have not officially started classes they are treated differently?

 

[speedstrength]

If a kid wants out Baylor should let them out. If Baylor doesn't let them out the kids can appeal but the process takes six weeks. That means all this comes up again regardless of the outcome of the appeal and Baylor is back in the headlines again. Baylor just needs to get it all over with and hope that the ADHD American media will move onto the next thing. With the presidential conventions coming up and Trumps ability garner lots of attention there is a good chance this moves to the back burner if Baylor doesn't screw it up.

 

[outhereincali]

Those kids will wait until they meet Jim Grobe before they make their decision they should at least give the man a chance to talk to them and see if it will still be worth it to go to Baylor.

 

[speedstrength]

Once a player signs an NLI they are a member of team just as a junior or senior. Is this not correct? Or are you saying because they possibly have not officially started classes they are treated differently?

No I think they actually have to set foot inside a classroom. Since the guys didn't show up to campus go to any classes they are good. They just need to get released from the NLI

 

[bubba2023]

Once a player signs an NLI they are a member of team just as a junior or senior. Is this not correct? Or are you saying because they possibly have not officially started classes they are treated differently?

They are different. Releasing a NLI is different than releasing a player to transfer w/ restrictions. Once you release a player from his NLI (assuming he's not enrolled) he's free to enroll and sign anywhere else.

 

[speedstrength]

Those kids will wait until they meet Jim Grobe before they make their decision they should at least give the man a chance to talk to them and see if it will still be worth it to go to Baylor.

Two things. Is Grobe going to be there long term and what exactly did Baylor self report to the NCAA. With so much uncertainty its going to be hard to keep guys.

 

[bubba2023]

Those kids will wait until they meet Jim Grobe before they make their decision they should at least give the man a chance to talk to them and see if it will still be worth it to go to Baylor.

Apparently Cobb met with him and still wasn't granted a release. If that's the case none of the other guys owe him anything.

 

[Cotton #12]

I do not really care if we get any Baylor players if released,after all,they decided to play against Texas.They should have picked Texas in the 1st place.Why should Texas be some ones 2nd choice.

 

[Texxxxas]

I do not really care if we get any Baylor players if released,after all,they decided to play against Texas.They should have picked Texas in the 1st place.Why should Texas be some ones 2nd choice.

Let go of that arrogance.

 

[Cotton #12]

Let go of that arrogance.

Ok, at least the players picked Baylor instead of OU.

 

[diadevic]

Two things. Is Grobe going to be there long term and what exactly did Baylor self report to the NCAA. With so much uncertainty its going to be hard to keep guys.

Did Baylor report anything? So far I have not seen one allegation of cheating or payments. Not minimizing the disaster that is my university, and I cringe at the thought of the NCAA sniffing around, but so far ...

 

[speedstrength]

Did Baylor report anything? So far I have not seen one allegation of cheating or payments. Not minimizing the disaster that is my university, and I cringe at the thought of the NCAA sniffing around, but so far ...

In addition to personnel changes, it is imperative the University leverages the investigation's findings to institute improvements to better strengthen its ability to prevent, investigate and respond to acts of interpersonal violence and care for those who are affected by these acts. The University has retained the services of Rick Evrard, of Bond, Schoenech & King, PLLC, and has made contact with the NCAA to initially discuss potential infractions and to offer full cooperation with any resulting investigation.

I haven't been able to find out anything more about this. Several news outlets have reported Baylor has self reported to the NCAA. I don't know anything more than this.

 

[Heisennberg]

Needs to go to OU, he'd have a Heisman calibur QB in Mayfield for the next two years.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Or go to Texas, beat OU every year, and have a Heisman caliber QB for four years.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

I do not really care if we get any Baylor players if released,after all,they decided to play against Texas.They should have picked Texas in the 1st place.Why should Texas be some ones 2nd choice.

Who cares? If we can get better by taking them now, we should take them without hesitation (assuming no indications of bad character, etc.).

Like Texxxxas said, let go of that arrogance and pridefulness.

 

[Heisennberg]

Or go to Texas, beat OU every year, and have a Heisman caliber QB for four years.

lol. Good one.

 

[Scholz]

Needs to go to OU, he'd have a Heisman calibur QB in Mayfield for the next two years.

Why don't you write him a note.

 

[Scholz]

Did Baylor report anything? So far I have not seen one allegation of cheating or payments. Not minimizing the disaster that is my university, and I cringe at the thought of the NCAA sniffing around, but so far ...

Bobby Burton (24/7) going all in on what happened at Baylor in regards to Duvernay's letter of intent:

I am told by a reputable source that Baylor assistants committed an NCAA infraction when recruiting Devin Duvernay by evaluating him too many times in the spring of 2015 (evaluating Duvernay three times instead of the NCAA allowed upon two times). Only Devin Duvernay, not his twin brother Donovan who also signed with the Bears, was affected because one of the evaluations came at a track meet that Devin participated in but Donovan did not.
I've sent a set of questions outlining these and other issues to Nick Joos of Baylor's media relations department via email and left two voicemails. I've received no return call or email at this time.
I've been in this business for more than 20 years. Never have I ever seen a school fail to submit an LOI/NLI for a blue chip player that sent one to the school. Maybe it's happened somehow, somewhere.
So was it really a clerical error or "mix up" at all?
By not following through and submitting Devin Duvernay's letter of intent, Baylor likely subverted possible NCAA penalties stemming from Duvernay's recruitment. A call to the NLI office about this matter was also not returned.
For their part, the Duvernay family was completely unaware that Baylor did not submit Devin's NLI.
If Baylor and/or the NLI respond, I will add to this post giving them the opportunity to respond.

 

[bubba2023]

I don't follow what Burton is asserting? If you don't have a LOI from someone, then a school can't be punished for recruiting violations of that player?

 

[Scholz]

I don't follow what Burton is asserting? If you don't have a LOI from someone, then a school can't be punished for recruiting violations of that player?

I'm guessing so. That makes it officially under the NCAA's purview but not until then?

 

[bubba2023]

That doesn't make sense, but the NCAA rarely does. What about early enrollees, they never sign LOIs, so recruiting infractions on them would automatically go unpunished?

 

[Scholz]

Chip emailed them asking about it and the Baylor communications guy told a very believable story that they handled it internally by suspending Kendal for the Lamar game last year. We'll see if the NCAA lets that slide...

Keep digging, Baylor.

 

[bubba2023]

I still don't get it. Regardless in the eyes of the NCAA, littering is probably seen as a worse offense than evaluating a recruit 1 too many times.

 

[Heisennberg]

Why don't you write him a note.

Oh I am sure Mayfield et al. are recruiting him behind the scenes. He'd fit in better in a proven high octane offense like OU.

 

[diadevic]

Bobby Burton (24/7) going all in on what happened at Baylor in regards to Duvernay's letter of intent:

I am told by a reputable source that Baylor assistants committed an NCAA infraction when recruiting Devin Duvernay by evaluating him too many times in the spring of 2015 (evaluating Duvernay three times instead of the NCAA allowed upon two times). Only Devin Duvernay, not his twin brother Donovan who also signed with the Bears, was affected because one of the evaluations came at a track meet that Devin participated in but Donovan did not.
I've sent a set of questions outlining these and other issues to Nick Joos of Baylor's media relations department via email and left two voicemails. I've received no return call or email at this time.
I've been in this business for more than 20 years. Never have I ever seen a school fail to submit an LOI/NLI for a blue chip player that sent one to the school. Maybe it's happened somehow, somewhere.
So was it really a clerical error or "mix up" at all?
By not following through and submitting Devin Duvernay's letter of intent, Baylor likely subverted possible NCAA penalties stemming from Duvernay's recruitment. A call to the NLI office about this matter was also not returned.
For their part, the Duvernay family was completely unaware that Baylor did not submit Devin's NLI.
If Baylor and/or the NLI respond, I will add to this post giving them the opportunity to respond.

If that is all, then that's the best news Baylor has received all week. On that front - a lot of rumors about a follow up OTL report coming out this weekend. Details of a gang rape - supposedly one of the prior reported rapes, but as Ray Rice can attest, the actual details from the victim/investigators sound 100X worse than the generic charge of "sexual assault."

 

[outhereincali]

Two things. Is Grobe going to be there long term and what exactly did Baylor self report to the NCAA. With so much uncertainty its going to be hard to keep guys.

In his press conference today he said he will be more of a ceo than anything ie Kendal Briles will still run the offense and the other offensive assistants aren't going anywhere at least not yet.

He went on to say that his biggest concern are the current players but make no mistake he is going to go the extra mile to keep the incoming freshman at Baylor.

He*l of he can do all that his season is mission accomplished.