Football

[BringBackRoyal]

All the staff layoffs may be occurring because of a drop in football/basketball ticket sales.

No, they’re occurring because the useless bureaucratic bloat in our AD is unlike any other. We operate with close to double the number of full-time employees of other major athletics programs, despite having a similar, and in several cases smaller, number of student-athletes. (We have 429 full-time employees. Other major programs carry roughly between 220 and 280.)

This is why I always shake my head when people start jerking themselves off over our gross revenue numbers. Much of our advantage is wasted on literally hundreds of unnecessary full-time AD staff that do absolutely nothing to improve our chances of winning in any sport. Quite the opposite, since they drain revenue that might have been spent on keeping our facilities from lapsing into utter mediocrity, among other things.

I’m hoping that CDC’s cuts are only a modest beginning. There’s a lot of resource-draining deadweight to go after still.

 

[MadDogKC]

We're going 12-0!

Funny

 

[diadevic]

No, they’re occurring because the useless bureaucratic bloat in our AD is unlike any other. We operate with close to double the number of full-time employees of other major athletics programs, despite having a similar, and in several cases smaller, number of student-athletes. (We have 429 full-time employees. Other major programs carry roughly between 220 and 280.)

This is why I always shake my head when people start jerking themselves off over our gross revenue numbers. Much of our advantage is wasted on literally hundreds of unnecessary full-time AD staff that do absolutely nothing to improve our chances of winning in any sport. Quite the opposite, since they drain revenue that might have been spent on keeping our facilities from lapsing into utter mediocrity, among other things.

I’m hoping that CDC’s cuts are only a modest beginning. There’s a lot of resource-draining deadweight to go after still.

Interesting. Not saying its right or wrong, but one of the things I've always noticed is UT takes the band to every road football game. Isn't that 300+ people? How much does that cost? I know that when other schools come to Waco, OU will bring 15 brass, none of the others bring anyone. Maybe its worth the expense, but that's gotta cost a lot.

 

[oldhorn2]

No, they’re occurring because the useless bureaucratic bloat in our AD is unlike any other. We operate with close to double the number of full-time employees of other major athletics programs, despite having a similar, and in several cases smaller, number of student-athletes. (We have 429 full-time employees. Other major programs carry roughly between 220 and 280.)

This is why I always shake my head when people start jerking themselves off over our gross revenue numbers. Much of our advantage is wasted on literally hundreds of unnecessary full-time AD staff that do absolutely nothing to improve our chances of winning in any sport. Quite the opposite, since they drain revenue that might have been spent on keeping our facilities from lapsing into utter mediocrity, among other things.

I’m hoping that CDC’s cuts are only a modest beginning. There’s a lot of resource-draining deadweight to go after still.

this is a very good post.

 

[outhereincali]

No, they’re occurring because the useless bureaucratic bloat in our AD is unlike any other. We op outierate with close to double the number of full-time employees of other major athletics programs, despite having a similar, and in several cases smaller, number of student-athletes. (We have 429 full-time employees. Other major programs carry roughly between 220 and 280.)

This is why I always shake my head when people start jerking themselves off over our gross revenue numbers. Much of our advantage is wasted on literally hundreds of unnecessary full-time AD staff that do absolutely nothing to improve our chances of winning in any sport. Quite the opposite, since they drain revenue that might have been spent on keeping our facilities from lapsing into utter mediocrity, among other things.

I’m hoping that CDC’s cuts are only a modest beginning. There’s a lot of resource-draining deadweight to go after still.

I've always gotten the impression that Mack Brown created a lot of these jobs for guys he worked with whose time with the fb team was not needed anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't these state jobs. If so that means a job with great benefits and a pensions as well. The one that I found most appalling was the one for former asst coach Mike Tolleson. Basically he had a fundraising job where he had to work only a few days a year and it turns out he didn't show up. If this is true or false let me know. One of the things that Steve Patterson wanted to do was to eliminate these jobs. One thing is certain these jobs need to be eliminated. Most of these people don't deserve these jobs and their benefits. But if this isn't true let me know.

 

[clob94]

I've always gotten the impression that Mack Brown created a lot of these jobs for guys he worked with whose time with the fb team was not needed anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't these state jobs. If so that means a job with great benefits and a pensions as well. The one that I found most appalling was the one for former asst coach Mike Tolleson. Basically he had a fundraising job where he had to work only a few days a year and it turns out he didn't show up. If this is true or false let me know. One of the things that Steve Patterson wanted to do was to eliminate these jobs. One thing is certain these jobs need to be eliminated. Most of these people don't deserve these jobs and their benefits. But if this isn't true let me know.

Yes, there's some glut. But Patterson went after sacred cows like meals for coaches and the SID.

 

[HornDrummer]

Interesting. Not saying its right or wrong, but one of the things I've always noticed is UT takes the band to every road football game. Isn't that 300+ people? How much does that cost? I know that when other schools come to Waco, OU will bring 15 brass, none of the others bring anyone. Maybe its worth the expense, but that's gotta cost a lot.

They’ve never gone to every road game - only the ones in state and whatever major OOC road game is on the schedule (tOSU, USC, etc.). When I worked with LHB, we would go to aTm, TT, BU and Dallas. Not cheap, but these were hardly extravagant trips for the students (box lunches and rarely an overnight stay). And often a few BMDs would fit the bill.

Not even a drop in the bucket for the athletic budget.

 

[cwillfromdatx]

This will be an interesting year. I look for the WR's to be the strongest group follow by the DB's. Also, look at the TE position to be a lot better. QB should be better but every year we say that. I think the LB's will be good. Don't be surprised if Gary Johnson becomes one of the best at his position in the country. Issue position is the kicking game and returner as well. We haven't done well since Shipley

 

[q1w2e3]

I think the success of this season will be determined by how much the offense can improve. I think the defense will still be at least solid, possibly great again. However, the offense has been bad. Very bad.

When I looked into the stats of the offense it was alarming. Texas' OFEI rating (offensive efficiency index: offensive efficiency adjusted for strength of opponents) was #117 in the country out of 130 teams. The only Big 12 team behind Texas was Kansas. The only other power five teams behind Texas were Kansas and Illinois. By the way, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State finished #1 and #2 respectively in those rankings.

For reference, the year before last in Strong's last season with the Giblet offense Texas finished #85 out of 130 and was also second to last in the Big 12 only ahead of Kansas. However, Herman's team lost the three best OL from that 2016 team, all three NFL caliber players including both the left and right tackle: Connor Williams, Brandon Hodges, and Kent Perkins. In addition he lost the Doak Walker award wining 2000 yard rusher in D. Foreman. Strong also had the stability of the same QB starting all 12 games.

So how much improvement could be reasonably expected in year two with Herman? By the way, before some of ya'll start screaming about Tim Beck and the play calling, don't forget Tom Herman called the plays in the bowl game and the offense was just as bad or worse. Only 280 yards of total offense, 3.94 yards per play which was lower than the season average of 5.15 (which was second to last in the Big 12). Only 113 rushing yards on 42 carries at 2.7 yards/attempt.

I think there will be some improvement with play calling and personnel packages regardless of who is calling the plays, but I think there is way more to story with the offensive development. Before injuries I expect at least marginal improvement form all six OL positions when including the TE. The same with both starting QB's returning especially with Sam having been a true freshman. Also, improvement with the RB position. The two main guys from last season, Young and Carter were both true freshman and you add in the Cal transfer and Ingram. WR should be fine. And I'm hoping the addition of OL coach Hand adds a boost to the horrid OL.

Despite all that we are still talking about what was the 3rd worst power 5 offense last year.

 

[q1w2e3]

BTW, Texas' Defensive Efficiency Index ranking last season was #6 in the country only behind Georgia, Auburn, Wisconsin, Alabama, and Clemson. TCU was second in the Big 12 at #18.

Texas' 2016 rating was #45. That's a huge improvement.

 

[outhereincali]

hell....old as I am I was thinking Chuck Muncie

at any rate.....I stand by my statement that I trust our man Clob

I can relate to the old part. I remember Chuck Muncie from his college time at Cal. Chuck Muncie is the poster child for a career destroyed by drugs. He did some prison time and I saw where died a few years ago. Tragic and sad that was Chuck Muncie's life.

Sorry to hijack. Let's get back on track.

 

[q1w2e3]

I crunched some numbers (I have a lot of free time today using the Football Efficiency Index for offense and defense. It seems like a really good compass for success.

-the top 17 teams in the final AP poll won at least 10 games last season

-the top 11 teams all finished with a top 25 Efficiency ranking in BOTH offense and defense except two teams: OU and TCU. OU had the #53 ranked defense, but had the #1 offense and by miles. TCU came in with the #46 offense but had the #18 defense.

-Every team that finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll had a top 10 Efficiency ranking in at least one of offense or defense EXCEPT for TCU.

-three teams finished top 10 in both offense and defense rankings: Georgia, Ohio St, and Washington (Alabama just missed- #2 defense and #11 offense)

-the worst ranked offenses out of those 17 teams were Northwestern (75), Michigan St. (49), TCU (46), and Miami (36). Those were the only teams that their offense was ranked outside of the top 25. Their defensive rankings were: Northwestern (27), Michigan St. (25), TCU (18), Miami (14).

-the only other teams that won 10 or more games were all from non power 5 conferences: South Florida (41 offense, 30 defense), Boise St. (33 offense, 36 defense), and Memphis (16 offense, 44 defense)

If Texas is going to win 10 games or more they need to keep at least a top 20 defense and improve their offense from #117 to the 50-75 range minimum.

The last time Texas finished in that range? 2013 at #59. Mack's last season. That was a Case McCoy led offense. However, that O had probably the best Oline since at least 2009. Also had Jaxon Shipley, Mike Davis, Daje Johnson, and Malcolm Brown, J. Gray, and Bergeron in the backfield.

According to these metrics, what was the best Texas team since 2007 (as far back as they go) ?
2008. Texas finished ranked #3 on O and #5 on D. That was the Tex/OU debate year where OU lost to Florida in the NC game. For reference, OU finished #1 on O and #6 on D. Florida was #2 in both O and D. That was also probably Texas Tech's best team ever. They finished #5 on O and #30 on D. TCU had the #1 D that year.

Here are all of Texas' offense and defense efficiency index rankings going back to 2007: Offense listed first, defense second:

2017: 117/6
2016: 85/45
2015: 110/33
2014: 109/16
2013: 59/33 (Greg Robinson saves the D)
2012: 18/54 (Many _iaz sucks)
2011: 81/5 (Many Diaz is a genius)
2010: 107/26 (Gilbert QB/Greg Davis fired)
2009: 18/3
2008: 3/5
2007: 26/33

 

[clob94]

Color me fvcking impressed! You do taxes as well?


What metrics is used to mathematically calculate the FEI?

I crunched some numbers (I have a lot of free time today using the Football Efficiency Index for offense and defense. It seems like a really good compass for success.

-the top 17 teams in the final AP poll won at least 10 games last season

-the top 11 teams all finished with a top 25 Efficiency ranking in BOTH offense and defense except two teams: OU and TCU. OU had the #53 ranked defense, but had the #1 offense and by miles. TCU came in with the #46 offense but had the #18 defense.

-Every team that finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll had a top 10 Efficiency ranking in at least one of offense or defense EXCEPT for TCU.

-three teams finished top 10 in both offense and defense rankings: Georgia, Ohio St, and Washington (Alabama just missed- #2 defense and #11 offense)

-the worst ranked offenses out of those 17 teams were Northwestern (75), Michigan St. (49), TCU (46), and Miami (36). Those were the only teams that their offense was ranked outside of the top 25. Their defensive rankings were: Northwestern (27), Michigan St. (25), TCU (18), Miami (14).

-the only other teams that won 10 or more games were all from non power 5 conferences: South Florida (41 offense, 30 defense), Boise St. (33 offense, 36 defense), and Memphis (16 offense, 44 defense)

If Texas is going to win 10 games or more they need to keep at least a top 20 defense and improve their offense from #117 to the 50-75 range minimum.

The last time Texas finished in that range? 2013 at #59. Mack's last season. That was a Case McCoy led offense. However, that O had probably the best Oline since at least 2009. Also had Jaxon Shipley, Mike Davis, Daje Johnson, and Malcolm Brown, J. Gray, and Bergeron in the backfield.

According to these metrics, what was the best Texas team since 2007 (as far back as they go) ?
2008. Texas finished ranked #3 on O and #5 on D. That was the Tex/OU debate year where OU lost to Florida in the NC game. For reference, OU finished #1 on O and #6 on D. Florida was #2 in both O and D. That was also probably Texas Tech's best team ever. They finished #5 on O and #30 on D. TCU had the #1 D that year.

Here are all of Texas' offense and defense efficiency index rankings going back to 2007: Offense listed first, defense second:

2017: 117/6
2016: 85/45
2015: 110/33
2014: 109/16
2013: 59/33 (Greg Robinson saves the D)
2012: 18/54 (Many _iaz sucks)
2011: 81/5 (Many Diaz is a genius)
2010: 107/26 (Gilbert QB/Greg Davis fired)
2009: 18/3
2008: 3/5
2007: 26/33

 

[2300 Nueces]

I crunched some numbers (I have a lot of free time today using the Football Efficiency Index for offense and defense. It seems like a really good compass for success.

-the top 17 teams in the final AP poll won at least 10 games last season

-the top 11 teams all finished with a top 25 Efficiency ranking in BOTH offense and defense except two teams: OU and TCU. OU had the #53 ranked defense, but had the #1 offense and by miles. TCU came in with the #46 offense but had the #18 defense.

-Every team that finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll had a top 10 Efficiency ranking in at least one of offense or defense EXCEPT for TCU.

-three teams finished top 10 in both offense and defense rankings: Georgia, Ohio St, and Washington (Alabama just missed- #2 defense and #11 offense)

-the worst ranked offenses out of those 17 teams were Northwestern (75), Michigan St. (49), TCU (46), and Miami (36). Those were the only teams that their offense was ranked outside of the top 25. Their defensive rankings were: Northwestern (27), Michigan St. (25), TCU (18), Miami (14).

-the only other teams that won 10 or more games were all from non power 5 conferences: South Florida (41 offense, 30 defense), Boise St. (33 offense, 36 defense), and Memphis (16 offense, 44 defense)

If Texas is going to win 10 games or more they need to keep at least a top 20 defense and improve their offense from #117 to the 50-75 range minimum.

The last time Texas finished in that range? 2013 at #59. Mack's last season. That was a Case McCoy led offense. However, that O had probably the best Oline since at least 2009. Also had Jaxon Shipley, Mike Davis, Daje Johnson, and Malcolm Brown, J. Gray, and Bergeron in the backfield.

According to these metrics, what was the best Texas team since 2007 (as far back as they go) ?
2008. Texas finished ranked #3 on O and #5 on D. That was the Tex/OU debate year where OU lost to Florida in the NC game. For reference, OU finished #1 on O and #6 on D. Florida was #2 in both O and D. That was also probably Texas Tech's best team ever. They finished #5 on O and #30 on D. TCU had the #1 D that year.

Here are all of Texas' offense and defense efficiency index rankings going back to 2007: Offense listed first, defense second:

2017: 117/6
2016: 85/45
2015: 110/33
2014: 109/16
2013: 59/33 (Greg Robinson saves the D)
2012: 18/54 (Many _iaz sucks)
2011: 81/5 (Many Diaz is a genius)
2010: 107/26 (Gilbert QB/Greg Davis fired)
2009: 18/3
2008: 3/5
2007: 26/33

Great stats. Is there a website like pro football focus that breaks down individual player performance? Combine individual grades with your stats and we will be able to quickly zero in on the issues or successes on the team. Most of this is probably evident as we need the O-line to improve first, next qb play, rb, and down the line.

 

[q1w2e3]

I was wrong the F is not for football it’s for “Fremeau” so I guess it’s a proprietary formula. Link: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus

The Fremeau Efficiency Index (FEI) is a college football rating system based on opponent-adjusted drive efficiency. Approximately 20,000 possessions are contested annually in FBS vs. FBS games. First-half clock-kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores are filtered out. Game efficiency (GE) is a measure of net success on non-garbage possessions, and FEI opponent adjustments are calculated with special emphasis placed on quality performances against good teams, win or lose. Strength of schedule (SOS) ratings represent the average number of losses an elite team (two standard deviations better than average) would have against the team's entire schedule.

Offensive FEI (OFEI) is value generated per drive adjusted for starting field position and opponent defenses faced. Defensive FEI (DFEI) is value generated per opponent drive adjusted for starting field position and opponent offenses faced. Special Teams Efficiency (STE) is the average value generated per possession by a team's non-offensive and non-defensive units.

 

[Oldmanastro]

FYI, picked up a commit today in Safety Chris Adimora out of Cali. Really good player and another California kid. Cali pipeline growing.

 

[q1w2e3]

So is it possible for Texas to improve enough on offense to have a 9,10 or more win season? They would have to improve on offense from #117 to at least 75 or better for a chance assuming the D stays at least top 20 which is no guarantee. There are huge losses with Poona, Malik and Hill. Plus we were very fortunate with injuries on defense last year. The chance that the D will stay that healthy again aren’t a given. On top of that there is no longer the best punter in football who could completely change the field no matter how bad the offense was.

Looking at the FEI stats there was one season where Texas drastically improved on offense from one season to the next. 2011 to 2012. They went from #81 on offense in 2011 to #18 in just one year. An improvement of 63 spots. That would take the current Texas from #117 to #54 which is well into the range of a ten win season assuming the D stays top at least top 20.

So what was the difference in those two seasons? Well, I’m not sure but on first glance I think it had a lot to do with the quarterbacks. The offensive coordinator in 2011 was Brian Herson in his first year 2012 was his second year. In 2011 Garret Gilbert started the season as a starting quarterback but was benched after the second game versus BYU. For the remainder of the season true freshman David Ash and sophomore Case McCoy changed hands at quarterback back and forth.

The 2012 season was a now seasoned healthy David Ash for the whole year. Plus Brian Harrison in his second year as coordinator.

Obviously there are a lot of parallels from that to the current situation you’ve got a new staff coming into their second year and finally some quarterback stability and experience and depth.

 

[q1w2e3]

FYI, picked up a commit today in Safety Chris Adimora out of Cali. Really good player and another California kid. Cali pipeline growing.

Stud. Herman has a national recruiting presence in his 2nd cycle after 7-6. Imagine what’s going to happen in state and national when he wins 10+

 

[MiccoMacey]

This will be an interesting year. I look for the WR's to be the strongest group follow by the DB's. Also, look at the TE position to be a lot better. QB should be better but every year we say that. I think the LB's will be good. Don't be surprised if Gary Johnson becomes one of the best at his position in the country. Issue position is the kicking game and returner as well. We haven't done well since Shipley

It's never good for any team when their second best unit is comprised mainly of kids who've never played a snap of college football. Not sure who's coming back from last year's secondary that will start, but if a large amount of corner's safeties, and/or at nickel are going to be the true freshmen, that doesn't bode well. Even if they are the best db class in the country.

 

[q1w2e3]

It's never good for any team when their second best unit is comprised mainly of kids who've never played a snap of college football. Not sure who's coming back from last year's secondary that will start, but if a large amount of corner's safeties, and/or at nickel are going to be the true freshmen, that doesn't bode well. Even if they are the best db class in the country.

Good thing for the Horns five upperclassmen former starters returning in the secondary: Boyd, Locke, Davis, Bonney, Jones.

 

[oldhorn2]

I think the D should be fine, but not as good as last year. I dont think Malik and Hill being gone will cause that noticeable dropoff, but the loss of Poona and Dickson might do em in....On the other hand, we have a much more experienced defense (from a stand point of knowing the system) coming in this year over last year. By the end of the year our D might in fact be pretty salty.

Remember that last year we lost the truely irreplaceable man almost from the get go. If Johnson goes out early this year it could be more of the same. Thin as we are in some positions, we are still more loaded than last year where we were within 2 injuries of having to recruit Tuba players from the band for our O line.

 

[Metcalf #2]

It's never good for any team when their second best unit is comprised mainly of kids who've never played a snap of college football. Not sure who's coming back from last year's secondary that will start, but if a large amount of corner's safeties, and/or at nickel are going to be the true freshmen, that doesn't bode well. Even if they are the best db class in the country.

Hope you didn't have your hopes up. Lol. Bruh, our secondary is loaded with very talented seniors, juniors, sophomores and even a couple studs from the previous class.

Davis, Boyd, Jones, Locke, Boyce, Thompson just off the top of my head.

If any of our new kids start, they will have earned it. Definitely would not be a thrown to wolves out of need situation. That being said, guys like Foster, Cook, and Sterns could still end up starting, because they're that good.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spo...-2018-College-Football-Preview-119474730/Amp/

 

[clob94]

If BJ foster can stop posting sh!t on instagram that could catch us an NCAA sanction and result in him getting booted..... we should be ok.

It's never good for any team when their second best unit is comprised mainly of kids who've never played a snap of college football. Not sure who's coming back from last year's secondary that will start, but if a large amount of corner's safeties, and/or at nickel are going to be the true freshmen, that doesn't bode well. Even if they are the best db class in the country.

 

[2300 Nueces]

If BJ foster can stop posting sh!t on instagram that could catch us an NCAA sanction and result in him getting booted..... we should be ok.

I'm not on Instagram. What is he doing?

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Interesting. Not saying its right or wrong, but one of the things I've always noticed is UT takes the band to every road football game. Isn't that 300+ people? How much does that cost? I know that when other schools come to Waco, OU will bring 15 brass, none of the others bring anyone. Maybe its worth the expense, but that's gotta cost a lot.

Just buy 300 hundred 7 dollar tickets on Greyhound to Waco..simple!


Hook'em

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

No, they’re occurring because the useless bureaucratic bloat in our AD is unlike any other. We operate with close to double the number of full-time employees of other major athletics programs, despite having a similar, and in several cases smaller, number of student-athletes. (We have 429 full-time employees. Other major programs carry roughly between 220 and 280.)

This is why I always shake my head when people start jerking themselves off over our gross revenue numbers. Much of our advantage is wasted on literally hundreds of unnecessary full-time AD staff that do absolutely nothing to improve our chances of winning in any sport. Quite the opposite, since they drain revenue that might have been spent on keeping our facilities from lapsing into utter mediocrity, among other things.

I’m hoping that CDC’s cuts are only a modest beginning. There’s a lot of resource-draining deadweight to go after still.

yup

The only ones who should have a AD full time staff job like that BBR, is Earl Campbell and Mack Brown cause we owe him money, can't figure that one out, of all the money we got we still owe MB...If ya took Earls title away you would have half of Texas coming to kick ya butt!...LOL


Hook'em

 

[clob94]

I'm not on Instagram. What is he doing?

Basically, he and some of his boys posted a photo of them leaning on a $70k car holding shopping bags full of tennis shoes they'd bought at the foot locker...... hundreds of dollars worth of shoes, and the comment was "we spend that $ and we get it right back.....". The post was up for about an hour, then it was taken down. I assume the SID at UT was like "wtf you stupid idiot!". But, several screen shots were taken. It's out there. Not a good look.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

Basically, he and some of his boys posted a photo of them leaning on a $70k car holding shopping bags full of tennis shoes they'd bought at the foot locker...... hundreds of dollars worth of shoes, and the comment was "we spend that $ and we get it right back.....". The post was up for about an hour, then it was taken down. I assume the SID at UT was like "wtf you stupid idiot!". But, several screen shots were taken. It's out there. Not a good look.

And lets hear it clob..whose fault is it for letting do it? Someone don't have control of their team, and you forgot in your list a tractor for someone....Shades of Jackie Sherill...





Hook'em

 

[2300 Nueces]

Basically, he and some of his boys posted a photo of them leaning on a $70k car holding shopping bags full of tennis shoes they'd bought at the foot locker...... hundreds of dollars worth of shoes, and the comment was "we spend that $ and we get it right back.....". The post was up for about an hour, then it was taken down. I assume the SID at UT was like "wtf you stupid idiot!". But, several screen shots were taken. It's out there. Not a good look.

Someone has to teach these guys how to save money. They are going to need it when the cte sets in.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Someone has to teach these guys how to save money. They are going to need it when the cte sets in.

Seems like CTE has already set in for a few of them.