Well maybe Applewhite is learning something from Herman. He has been pretty abysmal at his previous stops at Texas, Alabama etc.. It must be bad if Horn fans were ready for him to leave.
Houston vs OU
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I was glad. It is water under the bridge, but, I think Harsin would have done much better without him in the way.
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Absolutely I think it's close through the third quarter, at least. Houston may actually lead at various parts of the game.
But I think (hope) OU's depth is too much. I still see a 10-14 point win, but I won't be shocked if it's less. I will be somewhat shocked if Houston wins, but I just don't see that happening.
If someone tells me Sunday morning it was a blowout win for the victor, I could almost guarantee OU won the game. But if he says it was close, down to the wire, I still say OU but I recognize the possibility Houston could win.
Absolutely I think it's close through the third quarter, at least. Houston may actually lead at various parts of the game.
But I think (hope) OU's depth is too much. I still see a 10-14 point win, but I won't be shocked if it's less. I will be somewhat shocked if Houston wins, but I just don't see that happening.
If someone tells me Sunday morning it was a blowout win for the victor, I could almost guarantee OU won the game. But if he says it was close, down to the wire, I still say OU but I recognize the possibility Houston could win.
Before it gets locked...
Absolutely I think it's close through the third quarter, at least. Houston may actually lead at various parts of the game.
But I think (hope) OU's depth is too much. I still see a 10-14 point win, but I won't be shocked if it's less. I will be somewhat shocked if Houston wins, but I just don't see that happening.
If someone tells me Sunday morning it was a blowout win for the victor, I could almost guarantee OU won the game. But if he says it was close, down to the wire, I still say OU but I recognize the possibility Houston could win.
C'mon Micco give us a final score
Sumlin is gone with anything less that 9 wins. I'm not going to argue buyouts or whatever because it will happen if that's the case. It will be interesting to follow Herman this year, if he duplicates what he did last season let the bidding begin but I do know Texas is his first choice. A&M will also be following Morris and how his second season goes at SMU, because it appears we may only replace Sumlin, McKinney and Morehead and keep the rest of the staff intact. The OU vs UH game is very intriguing, I think OU is very over rated but still a pretty good team. UH taking apart fsu was really impressive because talent wise they shouldn't have been able to play with them.
Completely disagree about FSU.
They didn't want to be there. They had dissension the two weeks leading up to the game & their starting QB announced he wasn't going two days before the game for family issues. They wanted ND or OSU, but got the last place "at large" bid against the "automatic G5" team. Nobody ever wants that game. It is lose/lose. It's happened multiple times now.
It even happened Bama/OU a few years ago after Bama missed out on the title. A large number of their players were already off to the NFL & could care less about the non-title bowl game. OU wanted it bad. Same thing with UH & FSU last year.
Chad Morris is somebody I would consider overrated. I don't think ou is overrated in that there has been no football played yet and everybody is going off of last year and last years returning players. Based on that, they are probably where they should be until more games are played. I think Texas will be a top 20 team, but, I don't have a problem that we aren't ranked yet.
What exactly did OU accomplish? Beating Baylor and TCU without their starting QBs to win the Big 12 or getting blown out in a playoff game they shouldn't have been in? They lost their best wr and 3 of their best defenders to the draft on a defense that wasn't all that great. They are not a top 5 team. Still a really good team though.
Nope. Now if you had said that Saban didn't want to be there and having to defend a spread offense the yes, I would agree. Bama came out firing and OU fired right back and flat out out schemed them.
OU got beat by Boise State in a BCS game but it wasn't because OU didn't want to be there. OU actually way exceeded expectations that year to even make a BCS with Paul Thompson at QB. OU got outschemed and beat.
Alabama got smashed a few years later by Utah. That game is the greatest upset in BCS HISTORY.
Uh, they won the conference, and made the playoff. For a fan of a team who went 11-14 over the past two years, I know it's difficult to know what an accomplishment looks like, but thats a huge accomplishment for a team coming off an 8 win season. It was a huge boon to recruiting, exposure, and brought in a lot of cash to the program. Which will springboard future accomplishments. Don't act like if the shoe was on the other foot you wouldnt have enjoyed last year.
As far as defense goes, they were #1 in the conference, so there's that. I love the depth they have, I expect them to be overall better than they were last year. Only concern is at LB.
"Alabama got smashed a few years later by Utah. That game is the greatest upset in BCS HISTORY."
I think Boise state vs ou was the greatest upset in BCS HISTORY not Utah vs Bama.....but since ur an ou fan I wouldn't want ou to have that label along with biggest loss in BCS Championship history vs USC either
I think Boise state vs ou was the greatest upset in BCS HISTORY not Utah vs Bama.....but since ur an ou fan I wouldn't want ou to have that label along with biggest loss in BCS Championship history vs USC either
Yeldon got less carries because if true freshman Henry, & a bunch of the D & O Line were replaced throughout the game. When Saban was asked after the game if players were injured he responded no, they just were not focused & hadn't been since the lost to Auburn so they didn't deserve to play.
I was rooting for OU & in no way was it their fault Bama didn't care, but that was the reality of the situation. Happens all the time.
38-28, OU
Too many new pieces on defense going up against one of the best QBs in the nation. Plus, I'm sure OU has been circled on their calendar since they beat Florida State. This game gives them credibility. They play Lamar the following week, so they really have nothing to look towards. For OU, I hope they're not looking past Houston and focusing on Ohio State.
Cml don't get me wrong the USC loss was embarrassing because it was for all the marbles, but seems silly for a Texas fan to give Ou a hard time considering you guys have some of the most embarrassing losses in the RRR history more than once. A USC fan can talk smack but Texas? Lol. As far as the Boise state loss, you consider that a bigger upset? Um ok. Sure Alabama was #4 and got DOMINATED and a good Ou team that overachieved that year lost on a trick play in OT but hey man whatever makes you feel good lol
Utah was ranked 6th & Bama 4th. How is that a huge upset? Not even top 100.
And it was not "DOMINATING."
I never even think about that game, let alone as an upset. Most people couldn't even tell you a thing about that game or even that it happened. So I wouldn't put it in the top 100 games, let alone biggest upset.
Ahh I see so McCarron(sp?) et al had a chance to up their draft stock but they stubbornly looked pathetic under pressure and threw interception because they didn't want to be there? And you are wrong about Yeldon. Yeldon got carries in that game but fumbled the ball as he had been doing all year. After that Henry was the primary back. The fact is, Farley, Stoops et al knew that Saban did not want to play catch up football with McCarron having to throw the ball and face pressure and that's exactly what happened. Stoops also knew that Saban would probably not be able to handle a hurry up spread and that's exactly what happened. If OU would not have been able to move the ball then Bama could have just run Henry all game and could have won because Bama's Oline was blowing OU out all game. Saban was outschemed I don't care what the guy says. If you recall, it was after that game that Saban tried to get the hurry up spread basically outlawed.
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There was not a soul on this earth that gave Utah one freaking chance in that game Farley, stop with the excuse making for Bama, good grief.
I hate Bama, trust me. But number 6 beating number 4 is not the greatest upset in history as stated. Not even top 100.
The spread was 9.5
There have been four larger spreads in the Sugar Bowl alone than that since it became BCS in '95. And according to Westgate more people bet Utah +9.5 than Bama, so a lot of people gave them a chance.
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You ou fans are something else.....talking about TEXAS not having any room to "talk smack".....TEXAS beat what was considered the "best college football team ever" in USC the year after they shoved it in soooo deep that ou players were asking for then to let up in the second half. I would feel better if you ou fans would just say "thank you TEXAS for not embarrassing the BIG XII in national championship games in back to back years" instead of thinking losing to Boise st and USC weren't big losses.....either way I don't care what sooners think they are entitled to.
And by the way nobody thought Boise St had a chance to beat Oklahoma either.....you can't be stupid enough to think differently
And by the way nobody thought Boise St had a chance to beat Oklahoma either.....you can't be stupid enough to think differently
You obviously never saw Paul Thompson play before that game then. Again, OU way overachieved that year but they got beat fair and square just as Bama did by Utah and decidedly by OU. The year Texas played USC, the USC offense was really good but their defense was nowhere near what it was when OU played them. You wont find many arguments on that.
Because you say so?
So why did more people bet Utah than Bama in the game? 9.5 points is not enough for a team that "has no chance."
It's because people/Vegas are smart. They know big programs don't show up sometimes in consolation bowls.
It is what is is.
Um NDA at what point did I call it a huge upset? I didn't. While it ended up a 2 td victory Utah was up double digits most of the way, up 21-3 at one point and outgained bama by almost 150 yards. I'm sorry you don't think about it but that doesn't mean a thing. So let me get this straight, Boise over Ou (#7 and #9) is the biggest bcs upset but bama being owned by Utah wasn't? Um ok lol. For the record, I don't think EITHER was an upset. All 4 were very good teams. Most of the time if you are In a bcs bowl you aren't some scrub team
NDA now our arguments are based on betting lines in Vegas? Oh good grief lol. We have reached a new low. Hurry up football
I didn't say you did.
Another poster called it the "biggest upset ever."
I was making the point that it wasn't the biggest upset ever. I never talked BSU/OU, that was someone else.
Somehow that turned me into either a Bama fan or anti-Oklahoma?
I'm just saying Utah beating Bama isn't the biggest upset ever.
No, I'm just retorting to the notion "nobody gave them a chance."
A game with a spread of 30 is not giving somebody a chance.
Like last year. A lot of people predicted Houston over FSU because of the circumstances.
Farley has a problem with remembering the general perception about games. If ND loses to Texas I can't wait to hear the excuses.
Do you know anyone personally that was giving Utah a fighting chance Farley? The answer is no Farley, NO.
Seriously? No Farley, they bet that because they were were hoping for an upset Farley. Good grief. People bet to make money not because they actually believe their favorite team will win.
Man you ou fans were convincing me with so much information that i was starting to doubt ou vs Boise st being one of if not the "biggest" upsets in the history of the bcs....so I decided to look up biggest upsets in Bcs bowl history.....AND BEHOLD!!!!! ou vs Boise st was number 1 on more than a few lists......but I'm sure they all are wrong.
