How soon will the Longhorns and Sooners join the SEC?
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So I would bet it would be safe to assume OU and UT will be in the SEC in 2023. The gossip about OU not being able to afford an exit fee is laughable. Good lord.
Let's be sure to document OU's record over the next five years. NO WAY it's better than it was under Riley.
No one said that "OU couldn't afford it". Word is they don't want to pay the exit fee.
I will definitely do that just for you and Bell. 🤣
Will Lebby's offense be as good as it was under Riley? Can that left handed transfer pick up the slack? I'll be watching for this. There's plenty of talent on their offense.
But for me all I want to know is can Sarkisian beat Venables?
But for me all I want to know is can Sarkisian beat Venables?
Charlie Strong and Tom Herman notched wins against OU. I’m sure Sark can. I know we as fan bases like to use red River as a benchmark. The truth is it really isn’t.
I think OU has as good a shot as any at winning the conference this year. I can almost guarantee that you won’t see the back and forth crap all game long like we saw almost weekly under Riley. Remember the Kansas miracle last year where if not for a heads up play by our QB we would have lost to them too? Pathetic. With NIL it’s difficult to gauge recruits. But we’ve got a 5 star qb coming in from Denton Ryan and Lebby seems to be pulling some players on offense.
There is only 1 defense I recall in recent memory that absolutely smacked Bama around in an NC game and that was led by Venables. I Will be willing to bet that our offense and defense looks much better than last year. Will Venables win 4 straight CCG? Hard to say but not probable especially with the move to the SEC. I sure don’t recall Riley pulling any recruits at ECU do you?
So Venables has been a championship coach for a long time and has an OC whose offenses have been more productive than Riley’s the last 3 or 4 years with much less talent so I think OU will be fine.
Also, some interesting comments coming out of OU defensive players that were drafted regarding Grinch and his “special” defense
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OU won’t be the same without Riley’s offensive schemes. However, as much as I dislike the Sooners they still have a better team than us right now. That’s not to say that we can’t beat them this season. We absolutely are capable of beating them. We must be 100% better defensively if we want to win this season. Until I see major improvement on that side of the ball, I won’t be buying in. I’ll always support them and root hard for them but they have to show us something early in the season.
I don’t know that they have a better team than us right now… they did before all the transfers and stuff. I’d probably call us pretty even at the moment.
Sark's got you guys on a better path since Mack. Suck it up brother, go with it. Brent's also gonna beat yer ass in the shootout in his first year. 😁
If we can become more consistent defensively, we’ll win 9-10 games. I know we’re going to score the ball with Sarkisian and our weapons. We have no proven kicker which may cost us a game or two. If it all comes together defensively and special teams this year, our opponents are in big trouble.
back to the original topic, i find it hard to believe the b12 will want a situation where Texas and oklahoma donkeystomp any or all of their newcomers. now they would rightfully have a wet dream if one or all were to beat UT and OU, but are they so sure that that can happen that they are willing to risk that PR hit if it goes our way?
I would agree and I would think the new commissioner that comes in would want to just put this issue to bed and start fresh
I'm not sure who else Texas could have realistically hired. The jury is still out on Sark. He deserves a minimum of three years. It was an "ok" hire, IMO.
Riley went 55-10 at OU in five years. With the move to the SEC, the chances of duplicating that record in the next five years is very slim.
| Year | School | G | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | Bowl | Notes |
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| 2017 | Oklahoma | 14 | 12 | 2 | 0 | .857 | 19.05 | 5.26 | 7 | 2 | 3 | Rose Bowl-L | |
| 2018 | Oklahoma | 14 | 12 | 2 | 0 | .857 | 18.06 | 6.14 | 7 | 4 | 4 | Orange Bowl-L | |
| 2019 | Oklahoma | 14 | 12 | 2 | 0 | .857 | 15.79 | 4.36 | 4 | 4 | 7 | Peach Bowl-L | |
| 2020 | Oklahoma | 11 | 9 | 2 | 0 | .818 | 17.62 | 3.71 | 5 | 3 | 6 | Cotton Bowl-W | |
| 2021 | Oklahoma | 12 | 10 | 2 | 0 | .833 | 11.75 | 2.68 | 2 | 2 | 10 | ||
| 5 Yrs | Oklahoma | 65 | 55 | 10 | 0 | .846 | 16.45 | 4.43 | 1-3 |
Remember when Joe Brady was a football genius. A brilliant football mind that had record setting offenses at LSU. An unstoppable OC who was destined for greatness in the NFL. Fast forward a few years and he gets fired because of a stagnant offense that cant score at Carolina. Maybe it was more Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamarr Chase and Clyde Edwards Helaire and just about any OC would have looked like a genius with those guys.
So Back to Lebby. How much of the offense was his and how much was run by Lane Kiffin? How much of that offense was because of what Matt Corral was doing? At UFC how much of the Offense was Scott Frost or Josh Heupel. I really don't know because I haven't watched much UCF or Ole Miss. I would be cautiously optimistic about the hire but this is the first time he will be running the show without an offensive minded head coach
So Back to Lebby. How much of the offense was his and how much was run by Lane Kiffin? How much of that offense was because of what Matt Corral was doing? At UFC how much of the Offense was Scott Frost or Josh Heupel. I really don't know because I haven't watched much UCF or Ole Miss. I would be cautiously optimistic about the hire but this is the first time he will be running the show without an offensive minded head coach
Those 3 loses in a row in the Rose, Orange and Peach are the epitome of Riley. He can sure whip up on a conference but anyone with equal or better talent good luck. Dude was good at out athlete-ing people. He made comments last week saying as much. He felt he had the 3rd or 4th best roster in all of those bowl games. To me a coach shouldn't ever say that unless he was making excuses for coaching deficiencies. In his own words if he didn't have the most talented roster he didn't have a chance. Pathetic. I guarantee Venables will coach the players up way better than Riley did.
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I think that success was a lot more Kiffin and Heupel than it was Lebby. It’s going to be super interesting with him not having an offensive minded head coach.
Personally I think OU takes a step back next year. I think they lost a lot of talent and the talent they replaced it with is inferior to the guys that were there last season.
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