Joe Brady wasn’t the OC at LSU. Passing game coordinator but he certainly had a ton of talent to work with.
How soon will the Longhorns and Sooners join the SEC?
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You guys have an unproven HC and an OC who has truly never had full control of an offense. Might want to temper your expectations a little bit this year. You guys have been on the decline a little bit each year since 2017.
This has to help. Seriously though what would a Kirby Smart or a young Bob Stoops have over Venables? Venables has plenty of skins on the wall, more personable than both of those guys. Seems to be well received by players, recruits and parents so far.
I’m not sure Kirby Smart is a good coach he’s just a really good recruiter. Dude thought Jake Fromm was better than Justin Fields lol
No I agree on Smart, we’ll see this year how his qb position shakes out but he did win a natty so I can’t really knock him. I think Venables learned a whole other side of football under Dabo that he didn’t have at OU, just my opinion.
Yeah. You recruit that much talent you are bound to fall in to one eventually. I think if Bama had its receivers for that game they probably win.
Nobody said that but Riley was Big 12 good and his record clearly indicated that. Is Riley a better head coach than Aranda or Matt Campbell? I don’t think so.
Riley is excellent at offensive scheming but with all air raid schemes, there is a price paid on defense.
I'm not going to argue that.
However, you would not have made that post if Riley was still at ou.
Then you obviously haven’t followed my post right here on this very board for the last year of Riley’s coaching tenure. Called him out as weak numerous times
That's because Air Raid coaches do not put enough emphasis on defense in any aspect of their program.
We've a cultural/football mentality shift with Brent's hire which will surely pay dividends soon if not immediately. Our longhorn brothers are sweating right now. 😁
But why? Why won't one of these freaking knuckleheads make a commitment to have a good defense? I don't get it. There have been some damn good offenses with the worst defenses known to mankind. IMO they have left some NC's on the table.
The HNHO runs so many plays so quickly and usually scores quickly and that puts the defense on the field more than it would a under a traditional offense.
How many playoff appearances do Campbell and Aranda have compared to Riley? I rest my case…
Man, no Texas fan is sweating Venables. Riley concerned me more than Venables does.
I guess you guys shoulda hired tbow then. Kinda ridiculous you think?
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Do you think Riley would be pulling playoff appearances from ECU? How about if he was at Baylor or ISU. No so that really has no bearing on if he's a better coach than Aranda or Campbell. Seeing Aranda's defense abuse Riley's offense 3 times didn't take me very long to see who is doing more with less, 2 of those games. Campbell, the same thing, his defense gave Riley all he could handle, what was their recruiting ranking the last couple years compared to Riley at OU. LSU should have hired that reptilian shape shifter Aranda as their HC imo.
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It was a really simple question and you wrote out that big long paragraph. For some reason you still didn’t answer it….
We know, Venables is the 2nd coming of Saban and OU is about to win 10 straight.
Yeah that’s correct but you get the point. Riley wasn’t much until he got to OU. Once there he was able to recruit big time players. Aranda and Campbell aren’t able to recruit as well at their respective schools but they are very good at developing talent. Riley needs great talent because he’s not as good at developing players imo.
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ou will be fine with Venebles. We need to be concerned with our own defense. It sucked last year.
3 Heisman Trophy finalists and 2 winners in back to back to back years. On top of 16 offensive guys drafted in 5 years. Is that not developing guys? All 3 of those QBs were starters last year in the NFL and all 3 of their teams made the playoffs.
2020 you guys had the 13th ranked recruiting class. 2021 was 10th. He never had a top 5 class. That’s a pretty decent job of developing in my opinion.
You make some decent points but how many of those 16 offensive guys you mentioned were Olineman? At least 8 I know. I think you threw a PK in there too LOL. Pretty sure Bedenbaugh who is OU's Oline coach gets the credit on the Oline draft picks and development. He's been called the best in the business at what he does. He was there before Riley ever hired on as OC and he's with Venables and Lebby now, turning down Riley's offer to go to USC.
No doubt Riley has had some success with qb's. Mayfield fit Riley's system to a T but Riley brought him along no doubt. Kyler is in discussion for greatest hs player of all time so he had a ton of talent but Riley did bring him along as well. Hurts. Well I was never a fan of Hurts and I'm not sure he was developed much at OU? He did get drafted which surprised me but I have a feeling his pro career is much like his college career, watching him is a nightmare if he's your qb. Now what gets lost in all of this is Riley's butcher job of development on Spencer Rattler. That was in his 5th year as a HC and the most talented team he'd had according to him. Last year was THE YEAR (his words).
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