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How soon will the Longhorns and Sooners join the SEC?

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You make some decent points but how many of those 16 offensive guys you mentioned were Olineman? At least 8 I know. I think you threw a PK in there too LOL. Pretty sure Bedenbaugh who is OU's Oline coach gets the credit on the Oline draft picks and development. He's been called the best in the business at what he does. He was there before Riley ever hired on as OC and he's with Venables and Lebby now, turning down Riley's offer to go to USC.

No doubt Riley has had some success with qb's. Mayfield fit Riley's system to a T but Riley brought him along no doubt. Kyler is in discussion for greatest hs player of all time so he had a ton of talent but Riley did bring him along as well. Hurts. Well I was never a fan of Hurts and I'm not sure he was developed much at OU? He did get drafted which surprised me but I have a feeling his pro career is much like his college career, watching him is a nightmare if he's your qb. Now what gets lost in all of this is Riley's butcher job of development on Spencer Rattler. That was in his 5th year as a HC and the most talented team he'd had according to him. Last year was THE YEAR (his words).
If Hurts doesn't come to OU he likely goes undrafted and is struggling to make a roster. His decision to go to OU was a big reason he was taken in the 2nd round and is not starting in the NFL. He led his team to 10 wins and a playoff berth last year. That's a pretty great feat in itself as a first year starter. I have my doubts about him as well but so far he's exceeding my expectations.

As far as Rattler, what college coach do you know that hits on every single QB prospect? 4 out of 5 isn't bad. As it seems like Caleb Williams is a hit. Even with Rattler as bad as he was this year he had the balls to pull him and put Williams in. On top of that you guys still won 11 games.

You just sound like you're a little spoiled which is why i'm going to sit back and enjoy you guys taking a step back this year.
 
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The aggy AD is already saying that the next a&m vs Texas football game will played in collie station. Wait, he's in charge of scheduling? And the last meeting was in collie station.
Seems to me it should be in Austin. 🤘
We are the ones that will be the newbie not A&M. Not even a member and already trying to run the conference--Rich---some just never learn. We have already fvcked up to conferences I guess you feel 3 is a charm
 
If Hurts doesn't come to OU he likely goes undrafted and is struggling to make a roster. His decision to go to OU was a big reason he was taken in the 2nd round and is not starting in the NFL. He led his team to 10 wins and a playoff berth last year. That's a pretty great feat in itself as a first year starter. I have my doubts about him as well but so far he's exceeding my expectations.

As far as Rattler, what college coach do you know that hits on every single QB prospect? 4 out of 5 isn't bad. As it seems like Caleb Williams is a hit. Even with Rattler as bad as he was this year he had the balls to pull him and put Williams in. On top of that you guys still won 11 games.

You just sound like you're a little spoiled which is why i'm going to sit back and enjoy you guys taking a step back this year.
Wow what a bold prediction from you. Riley basically tried to gut our team on the way out and your prediction, carefully worded I might add is that we’ll take a step back this year. Lol yeah I have a feeling you’re not liking what Brent Venables is putting together in a very short time at OU. OU will be right in the hunt for the CC this year no doubt in my mind. And that is after all that Venables had to replace in a matter of a couple months.
 
We are the ones that will be the newbie not A&M. Not even a member and already trying to run the conference--Rich---some just never learn. We have already fvcked up to conferences I guess you feel 3 is a charm
I can't see where helping the SWC and Big12 have national power and $$ is "fvking" up a conference. And most realigned conferences will have a conference director/president/committee set up the schedule (not one particular school). But, with The University of Texas and OU joining the SEC, I can understand existing schools needing to bow up their chest to the new guys.🤘
 
Wow what a bold prediction from you. Riley basically tried to gut our team on the way out and your prediction, carefully worded I might add is that we’ll take a step back this year. Lol yeah I have a feeling you’re not liking what Brent Venables is putting together in a very short time at OU. OU will be right in the hunt for the CC this year no doubt in my mind. And that is after all that Venables had to replace in a matter of a couple months.
I think Venables is a great coordinator and possibly a really good head coach. I just think you guys roster took a pretty big step back from where it was last year. Luckily the Big 12 isn't very strong this year so I think it's wide open.

Every major program in America goes through cycles as history has shown us. For all we know Venbales could be the second coming of Gary Gibbs or John Blake.
 
I think Venables is a great coordinator and possibly a really good head coach. I just think you guys roster took a pretty big step back from where it was last year. Luckily the Big 12 isn't very strong this year so I think it's wide open.

Every major program in America goes through cycles as history has shown us. For all we know Venbales could be the second coming of Gary Gibbs or John Blake.
Trust me I can see how someone could think that but I think Venables is a totally different coach than he was in his 1st stint at OU. I believe Venables learned a whole other dimension of football under Dabo that he just simply wasn’t going to get under Stoops and that’s just my opinion based on his results and seeing him handling things at OU. I think Venables understands having players buy in to his coaching and he learned that from Dabo I believe. What Dabo has done at Clemson has been pretty significant. Not saying Venables will absolutely duplicate but learning under guys like that can’t hurt.
 
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Trust me I can see how someone could think that but I think Venables is a totally different coach than he was in his 1st stint at OU. I believe Venables learned a whole other dimension of football under Dabo that he just simply wasn’t going to get under Stoops and that’s just my opinion based on his results and seeing him handling things at OU. I think Venables understands having players buy in to his coaching and he learned that from Dabo I believe. What Dabo has done at Clemson has been pretty significant. Not saying Venables will absolutely duplicate but learning under guys like that can’t hurt.

Alright Bell 55-10 record 5 seasons. Venables needs to match that or better it. 2 consecutive Heisman winners he needs to match that or better. Won 4 conference championships need to match that or better it.

It's on like donkey Kong now!
 
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Alright Bell 55-10 record 5 seasons. Venables needs to match that or better it. 2 consecutive Heisman winners he needs to match that or better. Won 4 conference championships need to match that or better it.

It's on like donkey Kong now!
2 consecutive Heisman’s is unheard of and likely won’t be duplicated by anyone anywhere. Venables has plenty of defensive accolades that I’m sure Grinch or Riley won’t replicate either. Calmus and Lehman winning Butkus award 1 year apart at OU under Venables to name one specific to OU not to mention all accomplished at Clemson. Venables is as qualified as any of them when they took over.

Also Venables is taking over under extremely different conditions than Riley did at OU. Riley was tit fed for 5 years under Stoops before gradually taking over, Venables coming in under hostile conditions with his predecessor doing all he could to rip the rug out from underneath him. Venables about to prove the naysayers wrong imo.
 
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I think Texas fans need to humble themselves about other coaches. I really hate to say this but I have my doubts about Sarkisian. The way we lost to OK, losing 6 in a row, we've got to stop saying were Texas. It's great that we've succeeded in other sports but we're not doing it in fb and all this talk and no action in fb is killing is giving us a bad name nationality.

What worries me most about Brent Venables is Joe Castiglione. He's been at OK 25 years and he hasn't missed on fb coaching hires. All I really want to know is can Sarkisian beat Venables? Let's admit this. Riley was clearly a better coach than Herman.

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Cali, I don’t think anyone here thinks that tbh. I think we’re positive people and hope for better results but no one is under the illusion that ‘we’re back’. When Clob says we’re back is when I’ll believe that. Otherwise, I go into each season hoping to be better than the last and when that doesn’t happen, I usually end up having something else to do on those Saturdays.
 
I think Texas fans need to humble themselves about other coaches. I really hate to say this but I have my doubts about Sarkisian. The way we lost to OK, losing 6 in a row, we've got to stop saying were Texas. It's great that we've succeeded in other sports but we're not doing it in fb and all this talk and no action in fb is killing is giving us a bad name nationality.

What worries me most about Brent Venables is Joe Castiglione. He's been at OK 25 years and he hasn't missed on fb coaching hires. All I really want to know is can Sarkisian beat Venables? Let's admit this. Riley was clearly a better coach than Herman.

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I back Sark and our Longhorns. Respect other coaches and teams. But Texas is first. That's my humble pie
 
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I think Venables is a great coordinator and possibly a really good head coach. I just think you guys roster took a pretty big step back from where it was last year. Luckily the Big 12 isn't very strong this year so I think it's wide open.

Every major program in America goes through cycles as history has shown us. For all we know Venbales could be the second coming of Gary Gibbs or John Blake.

Here's something to think about brother. Sooners have been in the cfb playoffs how many times? How many times? If we'd have even average defenses in these games? I'll admit Bob let the importance of defense fade, but when tbow come on board with all his offensive brilliance, (which might be questionable believe it or not?) Riley humiliated imo like a cheap french whore. And don't even go there with me being mad about him leaving. He did our program a favor imo, douche like you'll surely agree but none the less. Sooners got exponentially stronger with Brent's hire. We shall soon see. 👍
 
Here's something to think about brother. Sooners have been in the cfb playoffs how many times? How many times? If we'd have even average defenses in these games? I'll admit Bob let the importance of defense fade, but when tbow come on board with all his offensive brilliance, (which might be questionable believe it or not?) Riley humiliated imo like a cheap french whore. And don't even go there with me being mad about him leaving. He did our program a favor imo, douche like you'll surely agree but none the less. Sooners got exponentially stronger with Brent's hire. We shall soon see. 👍
You don't know anything until Brent Venables coaches a few games.
 
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