It's time to Fire Tom Herman......
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The word Strong was used 10 times since Saturday by Ryan. LMFAO!
And that was just in the first few words that start the post so I can imagine the count would've been possibly 15-20 times if the whole post was visible.
With all of this talk about sucky O Line - how have Urquidez and (before injury) Hudson looked? They were the backbone of BU's implosion class from 2 years ago. Hudson was a Top 5 player in the State. If those 2 are going to pan out, you should start seeing it in RS Sophomore year. Get those 2 going, O Line improves, you win those OT games, and there's your 9 wins - with a true Soph. QB.
Yea, I agree. Hard to read sarcasm. But maybe I am the only one on here that has it. I get tired of the "armchair" coaches on here that think they know what is best for this team. Maybe they should apply for the job and fix things. (Again, sarcasm!)
You disagree. You’ve made that clear. Time will tellRyan, just stop. You keep repeating the same nonsense over and over and over and over. SMDH.
I agree. He will very likely keep Beck(he basically said so today). So it will either work out,and things will start to improve next year or it won’t and things get a little interesting
And you've made your point about how you feel about Herman. There is no need to post about it non-stop. You keep repeating yourself. Step away from the keyboard when you feel like posting your opinion on the subject. Good grief, how many times can you state it??
Just chill
From Gabe,
Per S&P+ ratings, your incredible Texas offense will face the 110th, 94th, and 101st ranked defenses in the country, breathe easy! #HookEm
From Gabe,
Per S&P+ ratings, your incredible Texas offense will face the 110th, 94th, and 101st ranked defenses in the country, breathe easy! #HookEm
As many times as I want. I’m not the only one who has discussed the same topic multiple times and said the same thing on subjects(just look at the board). Yet I’m the only one you have singled out, called names, and threatened.And you've made your point about how you feel about Herman. There is no need to post about it non-stop. You keep repeating yourself. Step away from the keyboard when you feel like posting your opinion on the subject. Good grief, how many times can you state it??
I am respectful here. To my knowlage I may have disagreements with posters but I don’t believe I have ever attacked anyone personally or said anything inappropriate. So if you want to disagree with me that’s fine I’m happy to talk football. Otherwise leave me alone. Your title as a mod doesn’t give you the right to name call and push people around you don’t agree with or don’t like... Now let’s move on.
Sorry I have to harp on what a poorly thought out choice Herman was. Why was Dantonio never even considered? Michigan State, which is not a historically strong program, is leading a division that includes Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, and the Maryland team that crushed us at home.
Ryan, stop. I am disappointed about the season thus far but you have issues. If you liked CS that much follow his CURRENT team. The people hear are trying to discuss and analyze the information. 24/7 negativity does not help. We understand the issues surrounding the team. No need to re-hash. CS WOULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTER WITH THIS TEAM THIS SEASON. Seriously, the Missouri Tigers are within driving distance of KC. Have you ever considered them?
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I love absurdity so I vote we fire Tommy Herman and bring in Mcgruff the Crime Dawg. Who is with me?
Let's take a bite . . . Outa the Big 12! Wow, that sounds a little pornographic.
Let's take a bite . . . Outa the Big 12! Wow, that sounds a little pornographic.
Imagine what Patterson could do with top tier talent? Why was he never considered during Strong hire?
Most successful coaches are allowed more than 3 years to implement their system. How long has has Fatterson been at TCU.... since Little Debbies Francione? Herman is correct in keeping his assistants. They may not be what we like but he's willing to sink or swim with them. Coaches that succeed in year one and two have players to support the system. CS had some decent recruiting classes but they were woefully unbalanced which is killing our current performance.
Take the Cowboys for example. They have been horrible since 1995 and have only had recent success because they first built their offensive line through the draft. Tom Herman is in a tough place. He has to have some success and needs it now but his lines are going to be a patchwork next year and maybe the following.
Next year: KEEP Orlando and maintain the defensive strength while getting an o-line together that can allow him to get to 8-4 and haul in another top 5 class.
Take the Cowboys for example. They have been horrible since 1995 and have only had recent success because they first built their offensive line through the draft. Tom Herman is in a tough place. He has to have some success and needs it now but his lines are going to be a patchwork next year and maybe the following.
Next year: KEEP Orlando and maintain the defensive strength while getting an o-line together that can allow him to get to 8-4 and haul in another top 5 class.
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Honestly, for reasons only to him, I don't think Patterson would leave TCU for Texas. He's been approached, but has declined interest in the Texas job.
Patterson has no reason to leave TCU for Texas. Maybe 7-8 years ago he did, but now the only reason would be for money. I’m sure he is paid well enough at TCU it’s not worth it to him.
On a serious note . . . fellas, we all love our Longhorns and we flippin hate it when we lose. All on the same page there.
Can we just take a step back, breath in some fresh air, unless ya live in Beaumont, and let this thing play out?
Listen, I'm not sold on Tommy either. But I'm not gonna throw him under the bus right now. Beck is another story though.
Let's see what happens these last 3 games. Then we can discuss with a full season under our belts. I feel better right now than I did with Charlie and I liked Charlie.
Ryan, i sure do appreciate your enthusiasm and passion. Not enough Longhorns are that way. But how's about we hold off on the doom and gloom until we know a little more? You might be right, Tommy may not be the guy. A little soon to say that though, right?
Can we just take a step back, breath in some fresh air, unless ya live in Beaumont, and let this thing play out?
Listen, I'm not sold on Tommy either. But I'm not gonna throw him under the bus right now. Beck is another story though.
Let's see what happens these last 3 games. Then we can discuss with a full season under our belts. I feel better right now than I did with Charlie and I liked Charlie.
Ryan, i sure do appreciate your enthusiasm and passion. Not enough Longhorns are that way. But how's about we hold off on the doom and gloom until we know a little more? You might be right, Tommy may not be the guy. A little soon to say that though, right?
Now, let's all go to the tiddy bar and have some body shots! Who is with me?
I am going to say this one more time, and if some of you can’t getbitbthrough your head after this then I don’t know whst to tell you. Do I think Charlie Stromg is a better coach than he showed at Texas? Yes I do, and I think he will do a fine job at USF and get another shot as at a bigger school some day, but I’ve moved on and you should to
My critique of Tom Herman has absolutely NOTHING to do with Charlie Strong. I didn’t even want to hire Herman I had probably 10-15 guys on my list before I even got to Herman. Not that Herman won’t be a good coach but with such little expierence didn’t feel he was ready for the job. That’s not to say he won’t be good but not the route I beleive we should of gone.
I only bring up Charlie Strong in recent posts because he and Herman are going to face very similar choices after year 1. Stromg doubled down on his buddy Watson and it really started his eventual dismissal. We will see what Herman does,but as of right now he appears ready to double down on Beck... Hopefully it plays out better this time.
That is my position on Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. Anyone at this point that starts with the you just love Charlie Strong stuff is just not good at reading comprehension at this point.
Those are my positions now let’s move on.
Think: if Patterson had 3 losing seasons at Texas,LSU,He would be fired.He could have 4 at TCU and have a job.He learned a lot of what happen to Fran,his former boss.His wife is from a nearby town in Fort Worth.I do not see him leaving Fort Worth anytime soon for anywhere.
Right. The only thing I could see him leaving TCU for is Kstate maybe. He’s from Kansas played for Snyder, worked under Snyder. Could I see him saying i wanna wrap my career up at my Alma mater. I could see that. Wouldn’t be the first guy.
Apparently you have never been to TCU or Sundance square. Manhatten Kansas is well.... not so great. Personally, I think downtown Ft. Worth blows away most cities including Austin (ducks). It's clean, well designed and not weird.
I'm going to hold you to this. No more repetitive commentary about Herman/Strong from you. You've stated your opinion. Let it go.
I have actually been to Manhattan... The drive from Kansas City is one of the longest drives you will ever have. I don’t think he would ultimately leave for kstate, but that’s about the only job he’d even think about. At this point in his career and TCU in the big 12 he doesn’t need the headaches of a Bama, Texas, OU type job.
I’m not going to stop being negative on Herman if it’s warranted. If he does things I disagree with I’ll say so.... if he does things I agree with I’ll say that to. As will everyone here. That will never change.
As long as you crack down on the “you just love Charlie Strong crowd, as well everything will be fine. Call it both ways is all I ask.
I love absurdity so I vote we fire Tommy Herman and bring in Mcgruff the Crime Dawg. Who is with me?
Let's take a bite . . . Outa the Big 12! Wow, that sounds a little pornographic.
I like sarcasm.....glad I am not the only one.
This is the problem with folks. You guys act like a bunch of spoil babies. We had Mack and did great for us but towards the end, we wanted him gone. Then comes Strong. But guess what. Yall wouldn't let him finish a 4 year term. Now we have Herman. Guess what, yall ready to run him out of here. You guys are jokes and not true Horns. What IF you get Saban and pay him 20 million but he lose in his first and second year. Yall will never be satisfied and the University would be out of 40 million for those 2 years. I'm sticking with Herman. As I said before, no OL or QB will be your downfall. Strong came in with a QB and a good OL especially at C but they got hurt. Herman comes in with the same situation. Let us get the players in to make moves. You guys give it a rest and continue to support and root for OUR team. Our team wasn't that great in the first place but I have seen some improvement in places we needed to see such as the CB and S
TCU can and would pay Patterson just as much as Texas could. So there is no money advantage. You guys think coach’s salaries are like auctions. Where person A is worth 100mm and person B is worth 50mm, so obviously person A can win any auction by just offering 51mm. Well that’s not how it works because there is a ton of oversight on what a school can spend. We are never going to offer a coach more than what TCU could afford, so there is no money leverage angle. Just like person A is not going to give up half his worth to win an auction item that’s only worth a fraction of that in the market.
There are schools that we could money whip but TCU isn’t one of them. Maybe we could snatch an assistant or something, but not Patterson. Patterson will never leave TCU for more money because they would match. Not to mention I doubt there are many coaches making more than Patterson as is.
There are schools that we could money whip but TCU isn’t one of them. Maybe we could snatch an assistant or something, but not Patterson. Patterson will never leave TCU for more money because they would match. Not to mention I doubt there are many coaches making more than Patterson as is.
Patterson has side deals with big money boosters that make him WAY more money than his coaching salary pays. With oil at $54 a barrel, he ain't going anywhere.
I'm afraid Saban has used up all his eligibility and may be too old to block on the OL.
