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Sooner Scoop is running with a tweet that the staff has backed off of a few recruits of late due to background issues... They suddenly care.
yea, being called out on every news outlet and every radio show will do that. I bet if the Heisman had know that he would not have got a free trip. It is also being reported that the Tulsa world had the story last week and held it until after the Heisman. Thoughts ???
 
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It rarely happens? Oh geez I'm heard it all now. Not to say y'all are a bunch of criminals but every team has their share of issues. It happens when dealing with 18,19 and 20 year olds.
No. Not consistently allowing violence against women like Bob Stoops has done. Over and over. Not at all. Wife beaters are scumbags as are your coaches, admins and fans for your tacit approval of that criminality in the name of football wins. It's beyond disgusting but a $ooner fan will never understand that because of who you are deep down.
 
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Legacy just keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole.It's like Aggies trying to justify Manziel; it just isn't possible to logically do, although I'm sure some still may try.
 
I mean Heisman finalist Dede Westbrook being a serial wifebeater before Bob gave him a scholarship isn't even a story. That's how desensitized people are to the low character of $ooners. Water is wet.
 
this westbrook thing in Oklahoma is turning into a big deal. Should a coach be responsible for the background checks ??? because bob said " I am not responsible for background checks" or is that a blanket statement...plausible deniability ????

I would think the athletic department does that. I mean, it's not like he makes all the plane and hotel reservations, yet all that somehow gets done. So they have people who do their support things and the coach does his coach things. Doesnt appear he had a criminal convictions, so a background check wont find that. From all accounts his behavior at OU has been exemplary though.
 
I would think the athletic department does that. I mean, it's not like he makes all the plane and hotel reservations, yet all that somehow gets done. So they have people who do their support things and the coach does his coach things. Doesnt appear he had a criminal convictions, so a background check wont find that. From all accounts his behavior at OU has been exemplary though.

So there's people that have these jobs to find out about players backgrounds but they can't seem to find these wife beating type behavior but some how a sports writer does. Got it!
 
Give me a break. A simple background check will show multiple domestic abuse arrests. Ridiculous. :rolleyes: You could find that on google search probably.

It's the same "compliance" folks that were in charge of student "employment" up there apparently. Lying scumbags comes to mind...
 
Give me a break. A simple background check will show multiple domestic abuse arrests. Ridiculous. :rolleyes: You could find that on google search probably.

It's the same "compliance" folks that were in charge of student "employment" up there apparently. Lying scumbags comes to mind...

I'm trying to understand how a sports writer found out about his background but OU compliance office missed it. Interesting!
 
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Give me a break. A simple background check will show multiple domestic abuse arrests. Ridiculous. :rolleyes: You could find that on google search probably.

It's the same "compliance" folks that were in charge of student "employment" up there apparently. Lying scumbags comes to mind...
When asked, Stoops said he did Google but he may have spelled DeDe wrong because all he saw was reference to a future Biletnikoff award winner. The interwebs can be tricky you know....
 
Apparently Bob doesn't know anything about his players: Joe Mixon, DGB, Justin Chaisson, Frank Shannon, Dede Westbrook... Not to mention the dozens "employed" at Big Red. It's all news to him. What a lying sack.
 
Apparently Bob doesn't know anything about his players: Joe Mixon, DGB, Justin Chaisson, Frank Shannon, Dede Westbrook... Not to mention the dozens "employed" at Big Red. It's all news to him. What a lying sack.

Funny! Same thing happened with Briles! He never knew what was going on with his players. Makes you say hmmmmmm!
 
Yep. Straight from the Art Briles handbook. I'm sure all of the players Stoops passed on due to backgrounds were 2-star and below too.
 
Do they usually do the background before or after you accept?

Many schools dont do it at all- most records are sealed for minors and a lot of guys are still 17 when they sign, some may have just turned 18, long after you started recruiting them. There isnt much you'll get from a background check on a kid who hasnt been 18 very long.

Give me a break. A simple background check will show multiple domestic abuse arrests. Ridiculous. :rolleyes: You could find that on google search probably.

It's the same "compliance" folks that were in charge of student "employment" up there apparently. Lying scumbags comes to mind...

If that were the case, you'd think it would have taken more than 2 years to dig this up. Interesting how it only now comes to light.
 
No. Not consistently allowing violence against women like Bob Stoops has done. Over and over. Not at all. Wife beaters are scumbags as are your coaches, admins and fans for your tacit approval of that criminality in the name of football wins. It's beyond disgusting but a $ooner fan will never understand that because of who you are deep down.
I thought maybe Scholz was exaggerating, but no, sadly.

Frank Shannon, Dorial Green-Beckham, Dede Westbrook, Joe Mixon ...
 
If that were the case, you'd think it would have taken more than 2 years to dig this up. Interesting how it only now comes to light.
Yeah interesting. If only there were a reason Westbrook was in the national news in the past week and OUTSIDE people might have been looking at him. Hmmm, I wonder why. :rolleyes: $ooners already knew of course and covered the criminality up per usual.

More BS deflection from $ooner fans also per usual. How about just say he's a POS and should've never been offered a scholarship? Oh wait, that would require some honesty and self reflection and an indictment of your saint of a coach. Never mind.
 
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Yeah interesting. If only there were a reason Westbrook was in the national news in the past week and OUTSIDE people might have been looking at him. Hmmm, I wonder why. :rolleyes: $ooners already knew of course and covered the criminality up per usual.

More BS deflection from $ooner fans also per usual. How about just say he's a POS and should've never been offered a scholarship? Oh wait, that would require some honesty and self reflection and an indictment of your saint of a coach. Never mind.
Agreed, they weren't clueless and decided to go with it anyway. This wasn't news to OU.
 
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Yeah interesting. If only there were a reason Westbrook was in the national news in the past week and OUTSIDE people might have been looking at him. Hmmm, I wonder why. :rolleyes: $ooners already knew of course and covered the criminality up per usual.

More BS deflection from $ooner fans also per usual. How about just say he's a POS and should've never been offered a scholarship? Oh wait, that would require some honesty and self reflection and an indictment of your saint of a coach. Never mind.

They are roasting the reporter Cody on this in okc. This is still news and is a huge discussion everyday on the radio. I would like to know if Blinn Community College notified OU when they inquired about him. The other thing is that OU has said that they did not look him up by his "Legal" name..... what a joke ;) LOL...look at the very last line... I wonder how he plays football with 3 kids.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_85efbaf5-3041-536e-a6d7-d5b46dfc9081.html

The first arrest
On July 15, 2012, two officers arrived at Cameron Oaks apartment complex, responding to a neighbor’s call about a tall, slender man breaking through a window.

The report from that night states Decrick Deshawn Westbrook told an officer he came to see his child, but the mother wouldn’t let him inside. Westbrook, then 18, admitted to getting angry and breaking the window west of the apartment door.

The woman, who is two years older than Westbrook, later told police she and Westbrook began dating in 2009 but were no longer in a relationship. The woman said she didn’t want to press charges and claimed there was no physical altercation.

But on Aug. 24, the woman came into Cameron Police Department seeking a criminal trespass warrant against Westbrook, telling police she “just wanted Decrick to stay away from her and her residence.”

The woman went on to explain that the night police were called, she finally went to open the door after hearing the window break. Then, she said, Westbrook grabbed her by the arms, threw her to the ground and told her, “Don’t you ever do that s- — to me again.”

Per the report, Westbrook then went into the woman’s bedroom, grabbed a picture frame and threw it against the wall, shattering the frame.

When officers asked the woman why she hadn’t told them earlier about Westbrook allegedly putting his hands on her, she said Westbrook played football in school, and she didn’t want to mess anything up.

Cameron police eventually issued a warrant for Westbrook’s arrest on a family violence complaint. He was arrested on Aug. 29, 2012, but the Milam County District Attorney’s office rejected the charges in December, according to police documents.

Multiple attempts to reach the woman were unsuccessful. She is not named in this story to protect her privacy.

To Blinn and back
In the fall of 2012, Westbrook’s college football career began at Blinn College in Brenham, Texas, about 65 miles away from Cameron.

In addition to Westbrook’s injury, bad grades in high school routed his path through junior college, often a wild-west world for players clinging to bigger dreams.

Former Blinn coach Ronny Feldman recalls Westbrook always having a smile on his face, always happy, always friendly. Westbrook, Feldman says, is “a true junior college story.”

“Very, very lazy in the classroom,” Feldman said. “Really a sharp kid. Once he got into classes and school, he never had any problems academically whatsoever. But his tough home life back in high school, all that stuff … just a small-town deal. And maturity level just wasn’t there.”

Westbrook had a successful beginning to his college career, emerging as a deep receiving threat at Blinn from his first game. But as the season went on, Westbrook’s problems mounted. He had children back in Cameron and had been arrested for an altercation with their mother in August. Also, in an Oct. 12 Facebook post that season, Westbrook wrote he strained his knee and wasn’t able to play.

Feldman says there were days Westbrook would walk off the field, upset and unable to handle everything going on. Eventually, Feldman said Westbrook came to him with a decision.

Coach, I just can’t do it. I got to go home.

From this point, former coaches paint a fuzzy timeline.

Rhoades, Westbrook’s high school coach, said Westbrook returned to Cameron after leaving Blinn. That, Rhoades said, “was probably part of his downfall freshman year.”

“I was really kind of disappointed in him,” Rhoades said. “I felt like he had a lot of God-given ability. At that point in his life, I felt like he was almost throwing it away.”

Westbrook has said in interviews this season he left Blinn to be a better father. Last season, he said he took a year off because of “an academic issue.”

Feldman says he didn’t give up on Westbrook and tried to get him back to Blinn the next semester.

“He wasn’t a bad guy,” Feldman said. “He just wasn’t a very mature person, and nobody helped lead him.”

Feldman also said he was aware Westbrook had legal issues.

“I don’t remember all the details, and it’s not really any of my business one way or the other,” he said.

Westbrook did not play the 2013 season, and his mother said he spent that year in Cameron. Feldman resigned in November 2013.

Montgomery says Westbrook returned to Blinn “at the end of 2013,” and when Westbrook told his mother he was going back to school, Montgomery called it “the best thing he could have ever told me.”

“Let’s be honest,” Feldman said. “Eight out of 10 times that happens, the kid never comes back to school. He stays home and gets him a little job at the meat market or a place there in town and earns a minimum salary for the rest of his life. But he was so talented in football and really wanted to play, so we kind of nursed him on … I really wouldn’t have gone to those extremes, but I thought he could be saved.”

The second arrest
On April 25, 2013, police were again called to the small apartment on the edge of town.

They arrived to find the mother of Westbrook’s children, who, in a police report, told officers trouble began at the local park when the woman saw Westbrook received a text from his ex-girlfriend.

Back at the apartment, the woman told police, Westbrook grabbed an Xbox and threw it across the room, where it broke on contact. Westbrook then grabbed the woman’s wallet and several Xbox games and attempted to leave the residence. The woman grabbed Westbrook’s shirt, trying to stop him from leaving with the wallet.

The report states Westbrook responded by biting the woman on the arm and punching her in the jaw with a closed fist.

An officer noted marks on the woman’s arm that night were “definitely bite marks” and had already started to swell.

The police report states Westbrook told officers, “(the woman’s) arm swept across his teeth, and that’s how the marks got on her arm.” Westbrook also told the officer he admitted to “grabbing (the woman’s) face to push her away from him.”

After the arrest, police reports indicate he told an officer the daughter he has with the women was not his biological child. But per the report, he asked if he could get in legal trouble if he were to take the girl from the woman without her consent. The officer told Westbrook he could face kidnapping charges and advised him to consult an attorney regarding child custody matters.

Westbrook was booked in Milam County Jail on April 26, and the district attorney’s office proceeded to file misdemeanor family violence charges on May 22.

Montgomery, Westbrook’s mother, said after charges were filed, she went to talk with the woman.

“I told her, ‘You could ruin his life like that,’” Montgomery said.

Montgomery said prosecutors investigated and learned Westbrook was innocent. She said the woman went to prosecutors saying she lied about what happened.

Court documents, however, indicate the case was dismissed for “inability to locate state’s witness.”

John Redington, a Milam County assistant district attorney who worked the case, said there is no documentation of the woman responding to court correspondence. Documents indicate she was contacted by mail on May 31, 2013, but did not answer.

Westbrook and his mother appeared at an arraignment without an attorney June 12. The woman did not appear, and further attempts to contact her were unsuccessful, leading to the June 21 dismissal.

Although there was gray area in this case, Redington noted in an email that domestic violence cases are often difficult to prosecute because of poor witness contact.

Milam County victims’ assistance coordinators log any contact made with alleged victims. There is no documentation of contact with the woman after charges were filed.

A lien filed in Milam County District Court on Aug. 9, 2013, also indicated Westbrook owed the woman $8,108.13 in child support. There were no other child support liens filed in court since.

Montgomery said Westbrook and the mother aren’t involved in each other’s lives, but Montgomery speaks with the woman often and helps her care for the children in Cameron.

Saturday, Westbrook also mentioned for the first time having a third child who lives in Port Lavaca, Texas.
 
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yeah...how did that guys signiture go?....from Bud to Barry to Bob?....
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Yeah interesting. If only there were a reason Westbrook was in the national news in the past week and OUTSIDE people might have been looking at him. Hmmm, I wonder why. :rolleyes: $ooners already knew of course and covered the criminality up per usual.

More BS deflection from $ooner fans also per usual. How about just say he's a POS and should've never been offered a scholarship? Oh wait, that would require some honesty and self reflection and an indictment of your saint of a coach. Never mind.

Yup. Just comes to show the real motive the media has with stories like this- sensationalism. Clicks. The more sensational the story the more click and visits you get, that's where they make their money. If westbrook was a bench warmer, nobody would have cared, not sensational enough for them. Similiar to the mixon video and their desire to get it out there. Of course, this isnt a revelation to anybody.

Not sure what i'm deflecting, I just find it curious why his status as a player makes any difference in how to treat his background. Nobody seemed to care until he make a real name for himself. Maybe he is a pos, but even a pos deserves a second chance to turn it around and make a life for himself.
 
Yup. Just comes to show the real motive the media has with stories like this- sensationalism. Clicks. The more sensational the story the more click and visits you get, that's where they make their money. If westbrook was a bench warmer, nobody would have cared, not sensational enough for them. Similiar to the mixon video and their desire to get it out there. Of course, this isnt a revelation to anybody.

Not sure what i'm deflecting, I just find it curious why his status as a player makes any difference in how to treat his background. Nobody seemed to care until he make a real name for himself. Maybe he is a pos, but even a pos deserves a second chance to turn it around and make a life for himself.
Sensationalism ?? you mean a reporter that had facts and published them ? He was a 4 star recruit and a highly touted juco , so yea, it is easy for OU to turn their head with him like they did with mixon. But again, do not let facts get in the way of solid factual reporting. If they did more digging they might find out how he is supporting 3 kids while he is only 23 years old and going to school full time or is he a deadbeat dad ?

http://247sports.com/Player/Dede-Westbrook-16521
 
Yup. Just comes to show the real motive the media has with stories like this- sensationalism. Clicks. The more sensational the story the more click and visits you get, that's where they make their money. If westbrook was a bench warmer, nobody would have cared, not sensational enough for them. Similiar to the mixon video and their desire to get it out there. Of course, this isnt a revelation to anybody.

Not sure what i'm deflecting, I just find it curious why his status as a player makes any difference in how to treat his background. Nobody seemed to care until he make a real name for himself. Maybe he is a pos, but even a pos deserves a second chance to turn it around and make a life for himself.
You're acting like Trump. Blame the media instead of focusing on the actual story. It's not bad that Bob Stoops recruits and keeps known wifebeaters over and over and over. It's bad that the media talks about it in your eyes apparently.

No, Westbrook's definitely a POS. As are Mixon, Chaisson, DGB and Shannon. As are all men who hit women. You $ooners are used to forgiving all manner of cheating and criminality to get football wins though. It's why you are who you are.
 
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You're acting like Trump. Blame the media instead of focusing on the actual story. It's not bad that Bob Stoops recruits and keeps known wifebeaters over and over and over. It's bad that the media talks about it in your eyes apparently.

No, Westbrook's definitely a POS. As are Mixon, Chaisson, DGB and Shannon. As are all men who hit women. You $ooners are used to forgiving all manner of cheating and criminality to get football wins though. It's why you are who you are.

The problem with 75% of today's Media, you don't know what is an actual story and what is a nonfactual story. Not talking about the Dee Dee story, just stories in general.
 
Again, the media is not the story here. It's yet another one of your wife beater players and his enabler coaches, admins and fans.
 
Sensationalism ?? you mean a reporter that had facts and published them ? He was a 4 star recruit and a highly touted juco , so yea, it is easy for OU to turn their head with him like they did with mixon. But again, do not let facts get in the way of solid factual reporting. If they did more digging they might find out how he is supporting 3 kids while he is only 23 years old and going to school full time or is he a deadbeat dad ?

http://247sports.com/Player/Dede-Westbrook-16521

Yep, sensationalism. Uhh these facts were facts about Westbrook going back to 2012, nobody was digging these facts up in 2014 while he was a 'highly touted recruit' with 13 offers. But, now at the end of '16 its a thing? He was just another recruit a couple years ago, nobody bothered to google his name, but now because he's a heisman finalist and all american, now suddenly it matters, now its news. So yeah, sensationalism, it's more sensational to their subscribers, viewers and link clickers to read gossip about a big time name than a random juco wr who may or may not ever even see the field.

You're acting like Trump. Blame the media instead of focusing on the actual story. It's not bad that Bob Stoops recruits and keeps known wifebeaters over and over and over. It's bad that the media talks about it in your eyes apparently.

No, Westbrook's definitely a POS. As are Mixon, Chaisson, DGB and Shannon. As are all men who hit women. You $ooners are used to forgiving all manner of cheating and criminality to get football wins though. It's why you are who you are.

I'm not blaming anyone, there is nobody to blame for anything. I'm simply finding it interesting how this is now a story, but it wasnt 2 years ago when 13 schools offered him a scholarship to play football for them. I find time and time again the media has their own agenda, not just in sports, but in politics especially, its not necessarily about getting out a story so much as it is them wanting more ad revenue through the page clicks and site visits because of how sensational the story is. Doesnt really surprise me why it's more of a story now than it was two years ago; this story gets much more attention now than it would have two years ago, and that's the reason why it only just came out, and that's the fallacy I'm noticing.

Awesome man, your opinion is very much in high regard, thank you for sharing it. Yep, you are 100% right with no deviation; my university football fanhood, (and that of 100% of OU fans) the actions of their coaches and players that I have never met absolutely defines everything about my personality and my life. Just astounding. I've mentioned before that I am also a die hard 49ers fan. Can you articulate what this means about me, personally? Like, im probably a douchebag because Kaepernick says idiotic stuff, or that im a pos cheater because jerry rice admitted to using a sticky substance on his gloves. Did you know that they have never had a black head coach? Obviously this means im a racist.
 
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More deflection. It wasn't a story 2 years ago because the only people who knew about it were you domestic abuse excusing/covering up $ooner apologists. It's not rocket science.

Answer me this, why do wifebeaters show up on your team consistently and never on mine? Happenstance? No. It's because Bob Stoops is morally bankrupt just like your admins and fans and knows he can recruit any scumbag he wants with zero repercussions as long as said scumbag can ball. Because you people are win at all costs and always have been.
 
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