Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (OU just doesn't matter as much any more...)
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Ketch, I think the OU game will still have immense importance. Winning that game will be a spring board for the rest of the season. Losing it puts you behind the 8ball.
I somewhat feel this game is going back to what it was before the BCS era...pre-2000.
Historically, OU is/was a big-time program that was always on our schedule.
Winning it puts us squarly in the Top 5 in rankings early in the season (certainly Top 10). We're able to hold that spot, it gives us a favorable position in the Play Offs. (assuming we're undefeated after the game, obviously).
Historically, the winner was in the driver's seat for the conference and big-time Bowl consideration and possible Natty consideration.
The situation is no different than what life was like "back in the day". That is part of the glory of that game: The contest is settled early in the season, as it always has been.
I think it is still the spring board it always has been. Win and we're in the driver's seat. Lose and we're behind the 8-ball.
(This is assuming OU gets things turned around, which I think they will)
edit: Will it have less importance? Possibly, but not by much.
I somewhat feel this game is going back to what it was before the BCS era...pre-2000.
Historically, OU is/was a big-time program that was always on our schedule.
Winning it puts us squarly in the Top 5 in rankings early in the season (certainly Top 10). We're able to hold that spot, it gives us a favorable position in the Play Offs. (assuming we're undefeated after the game, obviously).
Historically, the winner was in the driver's seat for the conference and big-time Bowl consideration and possible Natty consideration.
The situation is no different than what life was like "back in the day". That is part of the glory of that game: The contest is settled early in the season, as it always has been.
I think it is still the spring board it always has been. Win and we're in the driver's seat. Lose and we're behind the 8-ball.
(This is assuming OU gets things turned around, which I think they will)
edit: Will it have less importance? Possibly, but not by much.
That's at the forefront of my saying the rivalry will mean slightly less moving forward.
I'm not saying that OU isn't still highly important.
I'm saying the new world that both schools live in make it less important.
We all swing and miss every now and then....but how good is Don Cheadle in that video?!?
"I somewhat feel this game is going back to what it was before the BCS era...pre-2000."
I agree. That would make it less important.
No worries. I don't think he has a catalog that has a bunch of songs that HAVE to be on the list.
I think what he does with Keisha’s song by adding to her story with her sister’s on a totally different album in Sing About Me puts those two high on my list. Maybe even together in one spot.
Loyalty and Wesley’s Theory (not on either list) would be definite spots for me as well. But I agree, I don’t love his most popular pieces so a top ten is left to be individually interpreted.
I hear what you are saying Ketch and it's very logical and I might even agree with you that the rivalry is slightly diminished, just as the entire regular season is now slightly diminished in importance.
Also, your argument, which is sound, does not take one factor into consideration regarding TX v OU, the game is now and SEC game. The game will be hyped on a national level by the SEC to a level rarely seen in the rivalry.
NO way will the SEC let this game diminish in prestige.
And to say losing to OU "won't matter" as long as we make the playoffs is over cooking the grits.
What it kind of feels like this thread is turning into:
You are misreading the fanbase. Simply making the playoff, if coupled with losing three out of four against ou, is not a recipe for ongoing success. You have all people should know that.
That is you looking back, not on game day. If it had kept us out of the playoffs would it have "not mattered?"
Every birthday party is diminished 5 months after it's over
2 of my favorites and both on the M.A.A.D City album - love the ranking
Great to have this column back. You nailed it. The build towards the aggy game will hit everyone once it's on the horizon. The chatter all season in the media will be about Texas and aggy renewing, so by the time that game comes around the feels will be in full effect. Also, there's a world where Elko gets his team to a respectable season with a soft schedule that could change the narrative around that game and the road ahead. Texas has to make sure aggy doesn't have any hope of changing the narrative, which I don't feel is the case with OU currently.
Somewhat of an unfair shot at Sark here. Texas was fairly well prepared for last year's game, but OU got embarrassed the previous year and there was no way they were not gonna have the motivational edge. Not sure there was much that could be done about that, other than try to minimize mistakes early and outplay them as the game settles in. The minimizing mistakes part did not happen, yet they still almost won the game. In 2012, the Gooners beat us 63-21 in the Red River game. In 2013, our Alamo Bowl bound team beat OU by more than 2 TD's. OU was 11-2 and beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl that year. The better team does not always win in this rilvalry, especially after the underdog was blown out the previous year.
I cannot understand how people are sincerely arguing in this thread that a win or loss against OU is in the same stratosphere of importance as making the playoff and winning playoff games. If Texas goes 0-5 in the next 5 years against OU and makes the playoff in each of those 5 years, it would not matter one iota to Sark's job security.
Its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan
when your # 2 concern for the team ( and its potential weaknesses) is the punter
id say its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan
when your # 2 concern for the team ( and its potential weaknesses) is the punter
id say its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan
Yeah ok typo plus saying Boston would run over Indiana
maybe just leave nba thoughts out next time
I have attended almost all of the Texas/ousux games since 1966, winning against ou and aggy will always matter to Horn fans. Screw arky. Just my opinion.
Depends on how he does in said playoffs. He gets beat first round by lower rated seeds over and over and that seat will get hot. This fan base isn't going to live with the being bridesmaid over and over again. Your success as your a head coach becomes your own chopping block. See Rick Barnes for a prime example. He took a sport Texas fans care much less about to its pinnacle and eventually just making the tourney or R32 wasn't enough. Mack was in the same boat. Pretend there was a 12 team playoff in the early 2000's. He would have made it but if he was losing early, losing to OU regularly, and OU had some success in the playoff, the fan base would have been calling for his head.
The whole discussion is almost a useless one and not worthy of a huge write up. We get it, all games will be less important now that 12 teams get a chance to fight for it all. That really isn't newsworthy. It's simple mathematics. I don't think anyone is arguing that the single OU game is more important than being successful in January, but that was the same all the years before a 12 team playoff. It will be more important than other regular season game on the schedule just like it has been for quite some time. Granted I'll give that to aggy next year but only due to the big gap since the last time we've played them.
I get that it's the off season and that articles are written just because there isn't anything else to write. However the RRR or whatever it's called is always the game I circle on my calendar. In all my years of following football and traveling to away games and home games, there isn't anything like it in all of college football. Even if one team goes undefeated and the other loses all their games this game means a lot and always will regardless of which side of the red river you live on. There will no doubt be many exciting games in the the SEC that will have national implications for us but in my opinion none will match the excitement, the atmosphere or the meaning to the RRR.
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