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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (OU just doesn't matter as much any more...)

Getting a pass for one year (losing to OU) is different than getting a perpetual pass. If they’re not good (and we lose to them regularly) then fans will be rightfully mad.
 
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No worries. I don't think he has a catalog that has a bunch of songs that HAVE to be on the list.
I think what he does with Keisha’s song by adding to her story with her sister’s on a totally different album in Sing About Me puts those two high on my list. Maybe even together in one spot.

Loyalty and Wesley’s Theory (not on either list) would be definite spots for me as well. But I agree, I don’t love his most popular pieces so a top ten is left to be individually interpreted.
 
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If the Longhorns make the playoffs, it won't matter.
I hear what you are saying Ketch and it's very logical and I might even agree with you that the rivalry is slightly diminished, just as the entire regular season is now slightly diminished in importance.

Also, your argument, which is sound, does not take one factor into consideration regarding TX v OU, the game is now and SEC game. The game will be hyped on a national level by the SEC to a level rarely seen in the rivalry.

NO way will the SEC let this game diminish in prestige.

And to say losing to OU "won't matter" as long as we make the playoffs is over cooking the grits.
 
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Getting a pass for one year (losing to OU) is different than getting a perpetual pass. If they’re not good (and we lose to them regularly) then fans will be rightfully mad.
And yet they will still matter less than previously.
 
I hear what you are saying Ketch and it's very logical and I might even agree with you that the rivalry is slightly diminished, just as the entire regular season is now slightly diminished in importance.

Also, your argument, which is sound, does not take one factor into consideration regarding TX v OU, the game is now and SEC game. The game will be hyped on a national level by the SEC to a level rarely seen in the rivalry.

NO way will the SEC let this game diminish in prestige.

And to say losing to OU "won't matter" as long as we make the playoffs is over cooking the grits.

Did the OU game matter much in the overall scope of last season?
 
What it kind of feels like this thread is turning into:




bugs bunny fighting GIF by Looney Tunes World of Mayhem
 
If Sark makes the playoff for the 2nd year in a row and is 1-3 against OU, there's no massive hole to dig out of.

By definition, that makes what I'm saying true.
You are misreading the fanbase. Simply making the playoff, if coupled with losing three out of four against ou, is not a recipe for ongoing success. You have all people should know that.
 
5. Money Trees

One of three songs from Good Kid, M.A.A.D City that make my top 5, which says a lot about the album and how much I gravitated to it when it came out.

1. Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe

There's not a rap song from the last 15 years that I have listened to more when I'm chilling on a weekend and don't want to be bothered. It's my jam.
2 of my favorites and both on the M.A.A.D City album - love the ranking
 
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Great to have this column back. You nailed it. The build towards the aggy game will hit everyone once it's on the horizon. The chatter all season in the media will be about Texas and aggy renewing, so by the time that game comes around the feels will be in full effect. Also, there's a world where Elko gets his team to a respectable season with a soft schedule that could change the narrative around that game and the road ahead. Texas has to make sure aggy doesn't have any hope of changing the narrative, which I don't feel is the case with OU currently.
 
Not sure how you can just proclaim that. OU has been a better program than Aggy and it isn’t close.

If the team thinks like you do we will continue to see games like last year when OU was loaded for bear and sark told the team to have fun
Somewhat of an unfair shot at Sark here. Texas was fairly well prepared for last year's game, but OU got embarrassed the previous year and there was no way they were not gonna have the motivational edge. Not sure there was much that could be done about that, other than try to minimize mistakes early and outplay them as the game settles in. The minimizing mistakes part did not happen, yet they still almost won the game. In 2012, the Gooners beat us 63-21 in the Red River game. In 2013, our Alamo Bowl bound team beat OU by more than 2 TD's. OU was 11-2 and beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl that year. The better team does not always win in this rilvalry, especially after the underdog was blown out the previous year.
 
I cannot understand how people are sincerely arguing in this thread that a win or loss against OU is in the same stratosphere of importance as making the playoff and winning playoff games. If Texas goes 0-5 in the next 5 years against OU and makes the playoff in each of those 5 years, it would not matter one iota to Sark's job security.
 
I understand your point re OU but if the team takes the approach that it’s just another game on the schedule we might never beat them again. It will continue to be a holy war for them.
 
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Its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan

when your # 2 concern for the team ( and its potential weaknesses) is the punter

id say its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan
 
God forbid, I make one typo/mistake. Gotta have 9 people make the same comment, while commenting on nothing else.

Thanks.
Yeah ok typo plus saying Boston would run over Indiana
maybe just leave nba thoughts out next time
 
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I have attended almost all of the Texas/ousux games since 1966, winning against ou and aggy will always matter to Horn fans. Screw arky. Just my opinion.
 
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I cannot understand how people are sincerely arguing in this thread that a win or loss against OU is in the same stratosphere of importance as making the playoff and winning playoff games. If Texas goes 0-5 in the next 5 years against OU and makes the playoff in each of those 5 years, it would not matter one iota to Sark's job security.
Depends on how he does in said playoffs. He gets beat first round by lower rated seeds over and over and that seat will get hot. This fan base isn't going to live with the being bridesmaid over and over again. Your success as your a head coach becomes your own chopping block. See Rick Barnes for a prime example. He took a sport Texas fans care much less about to its pinnacle and eventually just making the tourney or R32 wasn't enough. Mack was in the same boat. Pretend there was a 12 team playoff in the early 2000's. He would have made it but if he was losing early, losing to OU regularly, and OU had some success in the playoff, the fan base would have been calling for his head.

The whole discussion is almost a useless one and not worthy of a huge write up. We get it, all games will be less important now that 12 teams get a chance to fight for it all. That really isn't newsworthy. It's simple mathematics. I don't think anyone is arguing that the single OU game is more important than being successful in January, but that was the same all the years before a 12 team playoff. It will be more important than other regular season game on the schedule just like it has been for quite some time. Granted I'll give that to aggy next year but only due to the big gap since the last time we've played them.
 
I get that it's the off season and that articles are written just because there isn't anything else to write. However the RRR or whatever it's called is always the game I circle on my calendar. In all my years of following football and traveling to away games and home games, there isn't anything like it in all of college football. Even if one team goes undefeated and the other loses all their games this game means a lot and always will regardless of which side of the red river you live on. There will no doubt be many exciting games in the the SEC that will have national implications for us but in my opinion none will match the excitement, the atmosphere or the meaning to the RRR.
 
Not really. The Big 12 isn't the SEC.
If its not NIL related, why do we think UT is going to perform any better than OU will given how they have pretty much won way more conf rings than we did?
 
You are misreading the fanbase. Simply making the playoff, if coupled with losing three out of four against ou, is not a recipe for ongoing success. You have all people should know that.
I'm not misreading the fanbase when I noticed that almost no one cared about that loss from 30,000 when the team won the conference and played in the playoff.

It didn't remotely define the season.
 
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That is you looking back, not on game day. If it had kept us out of the playoffs would it have "not mattered?"

Every birthday party is diminished 5 months after it's over
It was diminished weeks later, not 5 months.
 
Great to have this column back. You nailed it. The build towards the aggy game will hit everyone once it's on the horizon. The chatter all season in the media will be about Texas and aggy renewing, so by the time that game comes around the feels will be in full effect. Also, there's a world where Elko gets his team to a respectable season with a soft schedule that could change the narrative around that game and the road ahead. Texas has to make sure aggy doesn't have any hope of changing the narrative, which I don't feel is the case with OU currently.
exactly
 
I cannot understand how people are sincerely arguing in this thread that a win or loss against OU is in the same stratosphere of importance as making the playoff and winning playoff games. If Texas goes 0-5 in the next 5 years against OU and makes the playoff in each of those 5 years, it would not matter one iota to Sark's job security.

They'll eventually learn about the new world once they've lived in it a little.
 
I understand your point re OU but if the team takes the approach that it’s just another game on the schedule we might never beat them again. It will continue to be a holy war for them.
The Texas game is a little less important for them as well.

It's unavoidable.
 
Its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan

when your # 2 concern for the team ( and its potential weaknesses) is the punter

id say its the most exciting time to be a Texas Longhorn fan
Still gotta get one, though!
 
If its not NIL related, why do we think UT is going to perform any better than OU will given how they have pretty much won way more conf rings than we did?

Ultimately, we don't know that. It's not really part of the discussion I'm having.
 
I'm not misreading the fanbase when I noticed that almost no one cared about that loss from 30,000 when the team won the conference and played in the playoff.

It didn't remotely define the season.
No one cared? That’s not how I remember this board after Texas/ou 2023. Of course no one brought the loss after Texas ran the table, avenged some prior losses against KSt, Tech, and ISU, and the won the championship and made the playoff. To conclude from the exuberance of winning a championship for the first time since 2010 and making the playoff for the first time that no one cared about losing to ou, or that the importance of Red River was somehow diminished, is not only illogical but laughable. The vast majority of responses to this thread bear out the point that among Texas alumni and fans, we care greatly annd passionately about both beating ou and achieving the goals of the season. Those two things are hardly mutually exclusive.
 
No one cared? That’s not how I remember this board after Texas/ou 2023. Of course no one brought the loss after Texas ran the table, avenged some prior losses against KSt, Tech, and ISU, and the won the championship and made the playoff. To conclude from the exuberance of winning a championship for the first time since 2010 and making the playoff for the first time that no one cared about losing to ou, or that the importance of Red River was somehow diminished, is not only illogical but laughable. The vast majority of responses to this thread bear out the point that among Texas alumni and fans, we care greatly annd passionately about both beating ou and achieving the goals of the season. Those two things are hardly mutually exclusive.
Directly after the game. Yes, of course. Once the season was completed?

Not hardly.
 
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