I thought Texas started the most Freshmen and Sophomores in the nation last season, & that was the main reason given for our losses? That being true, we should be returning more starters/significant contributors than 6.
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I thought Texas started the most Freshmen and Sophomores in the nation last season, & that was the main reason given for our losses? That being true, we should be returning more starters/significant contributors than 6.
The 6 was upperclassmen starters not total starters.
Poona, Hall, and A. Foreman are the only Sophomores that I can think of that started. The rest of the youth movement were Freshmen.
The '14 class is starting to look like it may be the worst for contributors of 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes.
Edit- forgot the JuCo Nickelson.
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You sound like a spoiled 5 year old. "Fans" like you are the worst thing about sports.
Time for a group hug.........
Everybody in.....just hug it out. Hug it out.
I think we ALL agree that the last two recruiting classes have been "better" than expected. With that said, let's not forget that we lost 4 of the Florida 5 before the season ever started. Things CAN change with this class as well. Let's hope it doesnt. We'll have a "better" idea about where we are with some of these kids come spring ball, but won't get a look at all of them until two a days. Until then, we have a top 10 class on paper and that's as good as its going to get until we put the pads on. I want to get excited as well, believe me I do. But we must cautiously temper our expectations for now. There's a lot of question marks that need answering.
1. Qb
1A. Qb
1B. Qb
2. New OC
3. New offense (they aren't mutually exclusive)
4. Wrs, can they catch and run proper routes
5. Oline, is it maturing and getting stronger and meaner
6. Kicking game
7. DLine
8. DBs
Answer these questions come fall camp and we've got a shot at being a good football team.
Everybody in.....just hug it out. Hug it out.
I think we ALL agree that the last two recruiting classes have been "better" than expected. With that said, let's not forget that we lost 4 of the Florida 5 before the season ever started. Things CAN change with this class as well. Let's hope it doesnt. We'll have a "better" idea about where we are with some of these kids come spring ball, but won't get a look at all of them until two a days. Until then, we have a top 10 class on paper and that's as good as its going to get until we put the pads on. I want to get excited as well, believe me I do. But we must cautiously temper our expectations for now. There's a lot of question marks that need answering.
1. Qb
1A. Qb
1B. Qb
2. New OC
3. New offense (they aren't mutually exclusive)
4. Wrs, can they catch and run proper routes
5. Oline, is it maturing and getting stronger and meaner
6. Kicking game
7. DLine
8. DBs
Answer these questions come fall camp and we've got a shot at being a good football team.
Will line backers be able to get off blocks.
Will line backers keep outside contain.
Can safetys quickly run down hill and make tackles near the los in the running game.
Sounds good, but, please, none of you f'ers hug me from behind.
Every team in college football is young to a degree. Texas fans have been touting "we're young' since 2010. Enough already. OU had a very young/new and inexperienced offense last year but the fans still expected a good season. And by good I don't mean 6-6. I mean 9 plus wins since our coach makes 5 mil plus. It's expected.
We said young. We said crappy too. But it was whispered so we'll forgive you if you didn't hear it.
All I know is ou sux!
Oh shut up. All our best players last year were freshmen and sophomores. We will have maybe one or two senior starters on the team this year, with yet another group of instant impact freshmen thrown into the fire. It doesn't get much younger than we've been, no matter how much you try and spin it. You're just mad because no matter how young and bad we've been, our boys have kicked your boys asses on the field 3 years in a row. It's only gonna get worse. You better embrace us being lead by youngsters while you still can. When these last 2 classes are juniors and seniors, they'll really be stomping mudholes in Sooner asses, and stomping them dry. Good luck this year, it's your last chance to beat us for a while.
Well, we've definitely been on the young side since 2010, so why should we say otherwise? That's what massive attrition does to a roster.
Here are the numbers of players we've lost to failure to qualify, disciplinary dismissal, academic dismissal, career-ending injury or medical issues, retirement from football for other reasons, transfer, and so forth from the five classes before Charlie's arrival.
2009 class: 14 out of 20 players did not finish eligibility; 12 of those 14 left within two seasons
2010 class: 12 out of 25 did not finish eligibility; 8 of those 12 left within two seasons
2011 class: 10 out of 22 did not finish eligibility; 1 out of those 10 left within two seasons; (1 other player injured for half of 2013 season, missed all of 2014 and 2015)
2012 class: 9 out of 28 did not / will not finish eligibility; 8 out of those 9 left within two seasons
2013 class: 8 out of 15 will not finish eligibility; 8 out of those 8 left within two seasons; 7 out of those 8 left after one season
Almost half of all signees from those five classes -- 53 out of 110 signees, or 48 percent -- failed to finish their eligibility at Texas, with 34 percent of all signees not lasting more than two seasons in the program. That level of attrition is a recipe for having a perpetually young and inexperienced team.
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As long as Charlie allows Bedford to ride his coattails, I don't think the college football world is too concerned
As long as Charlie allows Bedford to ride his coattails, I don't think the college football world is too concerned
You don't have clue. Just watch what happens when our offense can stay on the field, and when all these young kids become seasoned vets on defense.
Btw, you should be concerned, we can't get any worse, yet we've handled OU just fine. We're only getting better.
Say what you want, but I will not forget shutout losses to ISU and KSU. Do you know how many times Texas was shutout since 1970, 5 times with two coming in the Charlie Strong era. I will not forget blowout losses either. You can bury your head in the sand, but I prefer to keep my head up and see what we have.
That is, if they can stay on the field, it's a brand new offense being run by a guy who has never ran an offense on his own, you are taking a lot for granted with this one.
Texas for all our recruiting success still hasn't proven jack on the field, when they prove it on the field, I will then apologize for all the bad mean and hurtful things I've said, but until then I say Fvck off to you, because you are a candy ass.
Lol. So it's candy ass to remain calm and give a man time to do his job? Nah, I'd say it's candy ass is to unreasonably freak out and throw fits because you don't have enough patience and maturity to realize everything is not always gonna go your way. F*ckin crybaby.
Good post.
I'm glad you put #4 in there. I see a lot of people talking about wide receiver is a strength for the team, and all we need is a QB to get them the ball.
WR could become a strength for the team, but other than Burt there's not anyone that's really proven themselves. Foreman shows flashes but he is inconsistent. There are some freshmen coming in that could really be big time, but we don't know yet.
If this new offense is going to work the way I think it should, we're going to need some WR's to step up next year.
I'm really optimistic about the team next year, but you're right there are still questions that need to be answered.
Son......I don't understand how some people give Strong a pass on who HE HIRED and who HE KEPT.....I don't see how they think it is ok to get embarrassed on national tv.....how it is ok to be SHUTOUT by Iowan F'n State?????? Everything is Macks fault and no talent. I disagree.
No I don't think we should have won every game.....but to not even show up and give Iowa St. a game is nearly unforgivable. Texas played its ass off against ou and then lays a dang egg against Iowa St...not good.
Macks recruiting classes were ranked high every year and they don't seem to remember where that got us.
I like Strong and I hope he turns it around and wins Championships at Texas. But Strong is the one who chose all the coaches he has hired and fired.......Strong chose the offense to run in the Big 12, No one else.
Strong get 5 mil plus a year to win football games and be competitive. He needs to show he can win. I expect this team to play hard EVERY WEEK and not just against ou.
I think TCU had more than Texas,most of the starters were out with injuries.
Not at the crucial positions. I would like to see a team where most of the OLine and QB are freshman. A team full of veterans that plays one true freshman in the secondary, LBs, DL, OL can overcome their youth. It is when you have multiple freshmans within any of the position groups that it is a problem.
well....speaking of Mack...He did win a Natty and for that I will always be greatful. But the fact remains that in his 16 years here he won exactly ONE more conferense title than has CS who has been here 2 years.
I ask again...how many academic casualties have we had the last 2 years? I dont count Raulerson as a casualty since he graduated. Anyone else.....anyone???
I ask again...how many academic casualties have we had the last 2 years? I dont count Raulerson as a casualty since he graduated. Anyone else.....anyone???
who was the coach...Bowden? that said...expect tolose one game for every freshman you start?
I don't blame Strong for hiring Watson because the BMD and AD screwed around so long that they didn't hire Strong until 4 weeks before NSD. We'd already had de-commits and Heard was looking around so he hired Watson who he could sell via Bridgewater. Bringing Watson back for '15 I do blame Strong.
With Wickline, Patterson screwed him over not paying off OSU. I know I'd be mailing it in if I was told my new job was going to take care of it and get there and found out nope. That $450K was 75% of a year's gross for Wickline. Word is that is why Wickline refused to sing the 'Eyes' with the team as a protest.
As for ISU, the only away game Texas won last year was against Baylor's 5th string QB. ISU has a history of playing Texas tough and believes the officiating screwed them out of wins over Texas in the last two matches. We only scored once against TCU's bench in the 4th quarter. So, getting blanked by a team that has history of rising up to play Texas and was looking to extract revenge didn't surprise me.
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Woohoo, everyone go to Metcalf's house for cupcakes and orange slices.
I didn't cry his first year, but I've seen enough to know that the man can't coach offense to save his life. He sucks at game management, and it isn't unreasonable to expect a win against a school that doesn't have a single guy we recruited. A school that we probably should have shut out. No, Texas got shut out by IOWA STATE!!!! If it hasn't sunk in maybe you need to stop drinking the orange kool-aid for a moment. 24-0 to a coach that got fvcking fired shortly after. This wasn't even a ranked school, hell it wasn't even a bowl eligible school.
I like strong, but he better turn this shit around, or I will be the loudest guy on this forum calling for his head.
Somebody's still got a case of 'We're Texas." Hate to tell you we're 6 years removed from that era.
There's been some bad losses, some hard fought heartbreaking losses, and also some quality wins in the past two seasons for various reasons that have already been discussed.
For 2016, I'd like to see eight wins, a win against okie, a bowl win, no blowout losses, another top ten recruiting class, and then I think we start punching at our weight level in the 2017 season and get back into the fight for the conference championships and top five classes where we belong. A lot hinges on finding a quarterback, but the roster doesnt show glaring weaknesses even if we'll be young on both lines. Seems like we're getting good leadership in the locker room. I'm optimistic.
Hook 'em
So let me get this straight....the head coach that makes 5 mil plus a year had NOTHING to do with the hiring of his staff and it's ALL someone else's fault? The games Texas flat out laid an egg has NOTHING to do with the head coach? Ok. We agree to disagree.
I like Strong, I want him to be the guy. But he HAS made mistakes and he is responsible for his team being ready to play and show up every game.
The excuses have to end at some point. We aren't saying we were playoff good but we should show up and play hard.
I want to make this crystal clear. I like Strong. I still think he can get it done at Texas. He is a good man who deserves success. I do think he made some huge errors in his staff selection, offense selection, game management, and having the team READY to play.
On paper the recruiting is going very good....but on paper Mack Brown recruited great every year he was here. Let's not aggy up and say we are somehow THERE because we got some recruits. Let's actually start playing like we mean it every single game......lets not show up one week and disappear the next. Let's see an offense that looks like it has played football before.....lets see the defense not get run over like someone is stealing their lunch money.
If we can play as hard as we did against ou every single game then we may have something. I hope Strong gets us there and I think he can now that he has changed up everything he felt comfortable with and started over.
I believe it is 55-45% FOR him getting it done.
On paper the recruiting is going very good....but on paper Mack Brown recruited great every year he was here. Let's not aggy up and say we are somehow THERE because we got some recruits. Let's actually start playing like we mean it every single game......lets not show up one week and disappear the next. Let's see an offense that looks like it has played football before.....lets see the defense not get run over like someone is stealing their lunch money.
If we can play as hard as we did against ou every single game then we may have something. I hope Strong gets us there and I think he can now that he has changed up everything he felt comfortable with and started over.
I believe it is 55-45% FOR him getting it done.
Better believe I do, but I've had it since 1983. I expect this program to always be the best team in the Big 12 and Texas in general. I expect us to be the favorite to win the conference 80% of the time.
Let me make this clear
I EXPECT TEXAS TO BEAT ISU 100% OF THE TIME WITHOUT QUESTION.
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And still beat Sooner ass, ICYMI
