CAHorn Mack proved that beating your main rival wasn't enough to save him. Mack was 8-5 I believe his final year. That is a goal for Strong at this point at 5 mil. per year. Perspective.And still beat Sooner ass, ICYMI
CAHorn Mack proved that beating your main rival wasn't enough to save him. Mack was 8-5 I believe his final year. That is a goal for Strong at this point at 5 mil. per year. Perspective.And still beat Sooner ass, ICYMI
What does that have to do with your "We're young..." comment?CAHorn Mack proved that beating your main rival wasn't enough to save him. Mack was 8-5 I believe his final year. That is a goal for Strong at this point at 5 mil. per year. Perspective.
CAHorn Mack proved that beating your main rival wasn't enough to save him. Mack was 8-5 I believe his final year. That is a goal for Strong at this point at 5 mil. per year. Perspective.
Bobby told me that on my couch in 199- at my home after I asked him if I had a chance to play as a fish. "Lemme tellya sumthin' there hoss..... Eva freshman that plaaays costs ya ah loss at some point".who was the coach...Bowden? that said...expect tolose one game for every freshman you start?
Every team in college football is young to a degree. Texas fans have been touting "we're young' since 2010. Enough already. OU had a very young/new and inexperienced offense last year but the fans still expected a good season. And by good I don't mean 6-6. I mean 9 plus wins since our coach makes 5 mil plus. It's expected.
There were 16 different freshmen that saw action for the Longhorns in 2015, totaling 5,369 snaps, the most of any freshman class in the nation.
Credit to NoName on the shag-
Jay Harper is a typo from Bliuett on special teams. They have the same number.
As of right now we have 88 scholarship players meaning we can expect to see 3 guys move on.
Without any further attrition, we have 18 seniors next year and none are supposed to start outside of Perkins.
I don't disagree with what you are saying. Winning February means nothing, and Strong has had more blow out losses (20 points or more) in two seasons than any of the previous three coaches, and two (Brown and Royal) coached for 16 seasons. I attribute most of this to the worst hire imaginable (Watson) combined with QB injury (Ash) then the ridiculous decision to keep Watson, who in turn kept Swoopes as the starter.Say what you want, but I will not forget shutout losses to ISU and KSU. Do you know how many times Texas was shutout since 1970, 5 times with two coming in the Charlie Strong era. I will not forget blowout losses either. You can bury your head in the sand, but I prefer to keep my head up and see what we have.
That is, if they can stay on the field, it's a brand new offense being run by a guy who has never ran an offense on his own, you are taking a lot for granted with this one.
Texas for all our recruiting success still hasn't proven jack on the field, when they prove it on the field, I will then apologize for all the bad mean and hurtful things I've said, but until then I say Fvck off to you, because you are a candy ass.
Mack had 6 that meet your 20 point standard. Four by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
Mack had 6 that meet your 20 point standard. Four by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
If Wasatch was an Alabama fan, he will NOT forget the La Monroe loss......
13 years vs. 2 years.........Mack had 6 that meet your 20 point standard. Four by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
Six in 16 years, the third not coming until his ninth year on the job. And I get it, Strong had an uphill battle, I'm just acknowledging that while I appreciate the recruiting success, this staff to date has done pretty poorly on the field.Mack had 8 that meet your 20 point standard. Four by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
2013 Ole Miss 44-23
2013 UO 30-7
2012 also had and 18 point loss to KSU.
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
Alabama was on probation or just coming off when that happened. Major infractions.If Wasatch was an Alabama fan, he will NOT forget the La Monroe loss......
Don't compare Strong and Saban. Saban was playing for the CC in year 2 and winning the NC in year 3. Not to mention signing the top classes in the country. They are on different levels.
Six in 16 years, the third not coming until his ninth year on the job. And I get it, Strong had an uphill battle, I'm just acknowledging that while I appreciate the recruiting success, this staff to date has done pretty poorly on the field.
Saban also had much more talent to work with from the beginning. Yet still managed to lose to ULM. If Wasatch were a Bama fan, he would've been screaming for Saban's head. Obviously he would've felt like an idiot later, just like he will in a couple years.
Don't compare Strong and Saban. Saban was playing for the CC in year 2 and winning the NC in year 3. Not to mention signing the top classes in the country. They are on different levels.
Well it only took one year for Saban. We're still waiting on that elusive winning season for Strong
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Mack had 11 that meet your 20 point standard including 2 in his second year. Five by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
1999 KSU 48-7
1999 Arky 27-6
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 UCLA 34-12
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
2013 Ole Miss 44-23
2013 UO 30-7
2012 also had and 18 point loss to KSU thanks to TD against the KSU bench with less than 1 minute left in the game that kept it from being a 25 point loss. In other words, Mack had 2 of those a year over his last 4 years.
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong's first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
Ok so Mack had more than I thought, but Strong is on a break neck pace. The point remains that it's great to be excited about recruiting, but skepticism is still warrantedUpdated version so people don't have to go back up-
Mack had 11 that meet your 20 point standard including 2 in his second year. Five by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
1999 KSU 48-7
1999 Arky 27-6
2000 OU 63-14
2003 OU 65-15
2010 UCLA 34-12
2010 KSU 39-14
2011 OU 55-17
2011 BU 48-24
2012 OU 63-21
2013 Ole Miss 44-23
2013 UO 30-7
2012 also had and 18 point loss to KSU thanks to TD against the KSU bench with less than 1 minute left in the game that kept it from being a 25 point loss. In other words, Mack had 2 of those a year over his last 4 years.
Nick Saban lost to La Monroe in Tuscaloosa in his first year rebuilding the roster to his guys. 2015 was Strong's first chance to bring in a full class of his guys. Poona and Nelson were his only guys in the 2014 class.
13 years vs. 2 years.........
Strong also brought in Alex Anderson, Blake Whiteley, Elijah Rodriguez, Edwin Freeman, and John Bonney. They all committed AFTER Mack Brown left and Strong recruited them. The same guys Mack got went 4-7 the year before Mack Brown got here......odd. I like Strong but the revisionist history of how things occurred when Mack took over is getting old.
So, the 2015 class wasn't impressive to you? Because that was the first chance Strong got at bringing in his guys.
This.
Lots of coaches take over programs in much worse shape, and they don't consecutively do worse on the field than the last coach. The Mack Brown excuse only goes so far. As does the no talent excuse.
FACTS
Macks team went 8-5 in his last year. With no real major losses from that roster to the NFL.
Charlie took that team and went 6-7. Then magically with a roster devoid of talent...somehow the NFL didn't notice and it drafted 5 players (3 of which were voted rookies of the yr by their respective teammates)....and at least 3 more players were signed to practice squads and saw snaps in games.
Charlie then goes 5-7. And there will be guys drafted. Of which many of you here will blame Mack and credit Charlie.
Lets not be Aggie. Constantly blaming the last guy for the current guys losses. Charlie had work to do. Just like every coach that takes over when a previous coach leaves. So far it hasn't been that impressive. What he is doing well, is he is doing it his way. He finally let go of the issues on the offensive coaching staff that he never should have brought with him. And I do firmly believe it is headed in the right direction. But plenty of coaches have had winning records with far, far less.
One of the things I respect most about him, is that he points out at the end of each year that HIS staff was the one coaching the players and HIS staff needs to do better. I am so glad we don't see him blaming Mack. You know, since Mack hasn't been on a sideline since two rivals website redesigns ago.
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Mack had 11 that meet your 20 point standard including 2 in his second year. Five by 38 points or more. Brown inherited a good OL, Ricky Williams, and Major Applewhite. Charlie got a few a guys on defense and a bare cupboard on offense.
To be fair, he apparently had no problem forgetting all those OU blowout losses. I'd laugh, but that's really not funny.