you can???? just last year we had luke brockermeyer and brendan schooler starting and playing every snap. we've upgraded past them, but have we upgraded to a deep rotation? you sure?
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Our depth at almost every position has improved outside of LB. OL,WR, RB, DL and secondary are all pretty solid across the 2 deep. Last years recruiting class really helped with that. LB and edge rushers are the 2 spots we are still lacking.
Although at edge we have a lot of guys like Tapp, Finkley, and Burke that are still kind of unknown. I saw a lot of Prince Dorbah tonight and he played pretty well so that’s another body there. He’s only a sophomore.
This team overall is extremely young. 57 of the 85 scholarship players are underclassmen. We are only going to get better as these younger guys get more reps.
We’ve got a solid team playing with some heart. Throw in a stud QB and we may have something. The Venebales era hath begun. I’m looking forward to taking advantage of it next week.
talent and potential are two different things, in my opinion. those extremely youn g recruits could be 20 pounds light, and many many practice reps short. perhaps i'm dealing in semantics
We played 4 man front probably half the game lol. I don’t know what the hell people are seeing.
Well, that's a strength problem.
Look-- I can tell you that the conditioning I did in HS was far more strenuous than what I did in college. By an order of magnitude.
Now granted, the strength stuff was much harder and more in depth, but from a sheer measure of "fvck-- I think I'm about to die and I don't know if I want to be here..." the conditioning we did in HS was MUCH worse. We used to run quarters after practice in full pads on the track. Quarter miles. Full pads. Helmet- cleats- all of it. In 65 seconds or you ran 1 for every 1 you missed.
Usually 4 or 5 a day AFTER a full practice.
The mantra was "in the 4th quarter when they are sucking wind, you'll be kicking their ass."
We don't seem to be kicking people's asses in the 4th quarter now.
I 2nd that quarter conditioning. We used one similar. On the 18th day and beyond, it was 3 timed quarters, 30 seconds rest in-between. Run another under 2 min (it was easy) for each one you didn't make the time. Class 2A ball. This after a tough practice. Most players didn't get off the field, playing both ways and special teams. Hardly ever had any get cramps.
I just want to call BS on the whole 4-3 argument, because the posts I have read lately have inferred that it's a better formation than the 3-4. As if the number of players that put their hand in the dirt makes a difference.
I was thinking the same thing. We go to a 3 man front when it’s obvious passing situations but we almost always bring a 4 man rush.
Ha! Good ole 2a ironman ball. That's what we had to play in Blanco back in my day. I think they are 3 or 4a now that a 40min commute to work is normal.
Ok....
I can't draw out a diagram of Xs and Os on this thread so you'll have to use the chalkboard in your brain.
When you have 4 down lineman, there's 5 guys that can block them up front. That means 1 on 1 with 1 olineman free.
Now, if you've got a monster at nose (Casey Hampton, Vince Wolfork etc) then your center AND guard HAVE to double him. That leaves 2 tackles and a guard. The guard takes your DT, and the tackles have your 2 DEs.
So you have 3-- 1 on 1 match ups AT the line of scrimmage. 3 chances to get 1 winning match up. 3 guys have a shot to getting to the QB. You just need 1 to get free.
If you rush 3-- it's 3 on 5.
You can double the best 2 and still have a free lineman to block the 3rd. If you bring a LB on a blitz, he's coming in NOT from the LOS-- nope, he's 3-4 yards away when he blitzes. That plenty of time for one OLineman to come off his double team and pick up the LB. And your 3 Dlineman have already been slowed down just enough that when that LB comes, the OL guy leaving his double team simply needs to get a piece of that LBer to give the QB that half second he needs to get the pass off.
Realize, from the moment the ball is snapped you've got 3.5 seconds to get to the QB. That's it.
The farther you are from the QB when the ball is snapped (LBer) the longer it takes to cover that distance-- AND the more warning the blocking OL has. A blitz has to be timed PERFECTLY to work.
So lets say you cheat the blitzing LB up--- OL is going to see that, alert each other with calls, the QB is going to hear that and adjust the play call. Now you're blitz is fvcked before it ever starts.
Let's say you bring two LBers up to the line to blitz with a 3 man D front--
OL checks down to a "max protect" front and goes "cheek to cheek" and the QB gets the snap and IMMEDIATELY throws to his "bail out" receiver (it's called "hitting the hot route") which is usually just a quick slant for 2-3 yards.
Now if you gave me Vince Wolfork, JJ Watt and Bruce Smith in their prime, I'll run a 3 man front ALL DAY-- and I'll have you playing your 4th string QB by halftime because I'll be forcing you to double team all 3 of those guys with 5 lineman AND your TE. At that point, you're fvcked. One less receiver running a route (TE) which means I've got a FREE LB that I can blitz from where ever the fvck I want and you'll never be able to stop me.
But we don't HAVE 3 guys like that.
So that's why we need 4 down Dlineman.
We rarely run a 3 man front is what I’m saying though. And last night I would guess we brought a 5th rusher on over half the passing downs. I have been around the game my whole life. I’m just not understanding the guy who is saying we are playing a 3 man front because I have rarely seen us do that this year.
I think we do it 44% of the time (3 man). I'll have to do some digging to be certain.
But it’s not a true 3 man because it’s like a 2-4-5 where your 2 outside guys are hybrid LB/edge rushers. I believe they call it the jack and buck positions.
I know that looks good on the screen, but that is a incredible over simplification of the 3-4 defense and how it can be used to confuse a QB.
Here's another over-simplification, if you have 4 guys down, at least 4 guys are coming every play. If you have 3 guys down, you can make it look like anywhere from 3-6 guys are coming and the QB and O-line have no idea which ones.
In your scenario, I can make you max protect and end up with 8 guys in coverage vs 3 receivers.
Well sure if you've got the dumbest center and QB combo in the history of man kind.
And yes, I started a thread on this so we could get off into the weeds about the intricacies of it-- and "why".... vs "when".... and all that. But the dumbed down version (with all things being equal) is-- just what I wrote.
what years were you at blanco? i coached there for 10 years.
and they're only 3a because they changed the name of 6 man to 1a, 1a to 2a, etc.
Great guy. I worked with him here in Kerrville the last few years. I think he might be over in Llano now....or doing something around Fredericksburg....I need to give him a shout...
Class of 98.
For football it was Bowman, Emerson, & Rogers. Matocha (butchered spelling for sure) and 1 more name I forgot that had 2 sons that played as well.
Are you one of them? Don't say who if you are! Haha!
I worked for Rogers from 04-14. I think tesch may have been the other guy-- blonde guy. He was the oc when I was there, then became head coach when Rogers left. Tesch and Wyatt I consider among my best friends.
That's right, Tesch. Wyatt was a good baseball coach and an overall good dude....unless he made you run buckets.
Yeah...I talked to him today. He came to Blanco after you were there....
The coach I was thinking of who's son was a few yrs behind me was Mouser. I think he coached basketball and middle school football at the time. He was also fairly new.
Anyways, small world in TX coaching it seems.
yeah, mouser was a good dude too. he stayed there until he retired. far as i know, still living in the area
Man I spent a lot of time in Blanco in the early 90’s what a great little town it was back then. There wasn’t much to do but we did drink quite a bit of beer
Sounds like the kid from WV is going to be ok.
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West Virginia Neal Brown had never been in a situation like what unfolded at Texas in his coaching career.
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