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Is GE most profitable in insurance? I don't know really clob. Wouldn't the banks still have to convert pounds to euros and the other way around even with the leave vote? I really don't know so I hope you don't think I am arguing for something. I think I remember you studied finance didn't you? I am probably kindergarden level on economics so I appreciate the breakdowns you give.

Looked it up...GE is most profitable in power and water.
Look it up again
http://www.dividend.com/how-to-invest/how-does-general-electric-make-money-ge/

GE Capital makes 1/3rd of their profits------ the moving around of money------ power and light makes up 18%.

Just scroll down to the pie chart.
 
Wasn't there a Richard Pryor movie about the same thing? He figured out how to skim off the decimals from the transactions and funnel into an account?
 
Yup. Loans, banking, credit cards, currency exchange, anything that has to do with the transfer of dollars from point A to point B.

Now if a huge company like GE is making 1/3 of its profit in the financial sector-- what is Duetchabank making? Allianz? Swiss credit? Royal Bank of Scotland.............

Now take away their ability to trade currency at that VOLUME, every week-(yes there will still be conversions done but not as regularly and not as large) and the banks will lose out on profits.
 
Believe what you want to believe about me and my analysis or opinions or whatever you want to call it.

The people who voted for leaving were largely motivated by the refugee situation, and the increasing ethnic diversity of Great Britain. The demographics of the leave voters showed that they were predominantly white, and also (a separate issue) predominantly from mostly-single-race districts of the U.K.

Check the link I provided, instead of just assuming a lot about me.

"When wrong on the data, political parties must first convince the people not to trust science, education, or the mass media. Ignore the facts."

I did check the link you provided. It doesn't prove racism, and it doesn't even try. It also doesn't even prove that the "leave" voters were "largely" motivated by the refugee situation. David Cameron pledged to hold the referendum in 2013. The refugee situation didn't happen until 2015. That doesn't even take into consideration debate about membership in the EU has been going on since the 90s. But don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-21148282

So year, I will make a judgment about your and your analysis, since both can be easily be contracted by fact, or the lack thereof in your case.

It seems I am always taking up for the dems on here because of the people who are like you and the "fearless leader" crap.

Did you defend George Bush and the Republicans as energetically, because similar things were said about him/them. Much like the birther issue, the left pressed on the 9/11 conspiracy theories and National Guard stories, both of which were demonstrably false.
 
More importantly clob, how long to wait before the buy order? I've been out of the market for a while and looking for a good time to get back in.
Dude. This is the time. Lots of discounts out there right now. Tomorrow could be another losing session, but it won't go on much longer.
 
I did check the link you provided. It doesn't prove racism, and it doesn't even try. It also doesn't even prove that the "leave" voters were "largely" motivated by the refugee situation. David Cameron pledged to hold the referendum in 2013. The refugee situation didn't happen until 2015. That doesn't even take into consideration debate about membership in the EU has been going on since the 90s. But don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-21148282

So year, I will make a judgment about your and your analysis, since both can be easily be contracted by fact, or the lack thereof in your case.



Did you defend George Bush and the Republicans as energetically, because similar things were said about him/them. Much like the birther issue, the left pressed on the 9/11 conspiracy theories and National Guard stories, both of which were demonstrably false.
Energetically? ha....I will say this as clearly as I can.....anyone who thinks Bush had something to do with 9/11 in order to go to war is stupid...anyone who thinks Obama was not born in the USA is stupid. Energetic enough?? Go look up percentage of people who believe Bush was behind 9/11 and go look up how many believe Obama was not born in the U.S.....Look up the % who believe Obama is not Christian. This should shine a light......but I doubt it. This kind of thing is so insane that I wonder how these people can make themselves food or go to work...it is stupidity and it is "wanting something to be true".

When I see a President win an election, the first thing I do is pray and hope that they do a good job. It does not matter if I voted for them or not, I still do it. I don't wish the guy I didn't want to win to screw everything up and make it worse. I do not want Trump NEAR the Whitehouse but IF he wins then I will hope he does a good job too. You do it your way and I will do it mine.
 
Swvahorn the night after the election, in his room on his knees:

"Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the south call you "jee-suz". We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Domino's, kfc, and the always delicious taco bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family: my two beautiful little, beautiful, handsome striking sons, Walker: Texas Ranger, or TR as we call him. And of course, my red hot smokin wife Carley, who is a stone cold fox, who if you would rate her ass on a 100, it would easily be a 94....."
 
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Swvahorn the night after the election, in his room on his knees:

"Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the south call you "jee-suz". We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Domino's, kfc, and the always delicious taco bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family: my two beautiful little, beautiful, handsome striking sons, Walker: Texas Ranger, or TR as we call him. And of course, my red hot smokin wife Carley, who is a stone cold fox, who if you would rate her ass on a 100, it would easily be a 94....."
Friggin Awesome! You are a nut.
 
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Energetically? ha....I will say this as clearly as I can.....anyone who thinks Bush had something to do with 9/11 in order to go to war is stupid...anyone who thinks Obama was not born in the USA is stupid. Energetic enough?? Go look up percentage of people who believe Bush was behind 9/11 and go look up how many believe Obama was not born in the U.S.....Look up the % who believe Obama is not Christian. This should shine a light......but I doubt it. This kind of thing is so insane that I wonder how these people can make themselves food or go to work...it is stupidity and it is "wanting something to be true".

When I see a President win an election, the first thing I do is pray and hope that they do a good job. It does not matter if I voted for them or not, I still do it. I don't wish the guy I didn't want to win to screw everything up and make it worse. I do not want Trump NEAR the Whitehouse but IF he wins then I will hope he does a good job too. You do it your way and I will do it mine.

I didn't assume you believed either thing. My point is, silence can speak louder than words. If you are quick to challenge those who criticize Democrats, but slow to challenge those who criticize Republicans, that still has the effect bolstering one falsehood, but not the other. What needs to happen to have the rational dialogue that I'm sure you wish to see is that ALL idiotic positions need to be challenged EQUALLY.

For the record, I looked up some polls of people who believe Bush was behind 9/11, and believe Obama is a muslim. I found one that said 22% believe the former, and 29% the latter. Pretty close both ways.
 
This election is not about policy. It's a referendum on decency. Trump is an indecent man. And the Republican party voted for him in record numbers in the primaries. He's a racist, misogynist, xenophobe, crook, liar and possibly a rapist. One party is putting this trash up for President. It's not a pox on both houses.

I would also submit that one party is to blame for our lack of rational discourse in this country. Right wingers vote with their emotion and gut feel (lizard brains). They're irrational. They don't believe in facts or science. You can't have a rational discourse with such people.
 
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This election is not about policy. It's a referendum on decency. Trump is an indecent man. And the Republican party voted for him in record numbers in the primaries. He's a racist, misogynist, xenophobe, crook, liar and possibly a rapist. One party is putting this trash up for President. It's not a pox on both houses.

I would also submit that one party is to blame for our lack of rational discourse in this country. Right wingers vote with their emotion and gut feel (lizard brains). They're irrational. They don't believe in facts or science. You can't have a rational discourse with such people.
I agree with part of what you are saying. The far right has taken over the GOP. I disagree with some of it. There are very good republicans who just have different opinions on how to make things better. I do agree the far right has hijacked the GOP. When someone's argument is based on emotion instead of policy I kind of tune it out.
 
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This election is not about policy. It's a referendum on decency. Trump is an indecent man. And the Republican party voted for him in record numbers in the primaries. He's a racist, misogynist, xenophobe, crook, liar and possibly a rapist. One party is putting this trash up for President. It's not a pox on both houses.

I would also submit that one party is to blame for our lack of rational discourse in this country. Right wingers vote with their emotion and gut feel (lizard brains). They're irrational. They don't believe in facts or science. You can't have a rational discourse with such people.
So you're saying Hillary is decent? Chuckulz. Hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion hoss. Enjoy your movie.And this doesn't even cover the millions and millions she has taken in in backdoor deals she and her husband have taken in EVEN as she was SOS or the Servergate. The list goes on and on.
 
This election is not about policy. It's a referendum on decency. Trump is an indecent man. And the Republican party voted for him in record numbers in the primaries. He's a racist, misogynist, xenophobe, crook, liar and possibly a rapist. One party is putting this trash up for President. It's not a pox on both houses.

I would also submit that one party is to blame for our lack of rational discourse in this country. Right wingers vote with their emotion and gut feel (lizard brains). They're irrational. They don't believe in facts or science. You can't have a rational discourse with such people.

I laughed when I saw this. You do realize that the Democrats are made up of poor extremely low educated people. When I lived in South Carolina I visited an AME church, their sunday school lesson on that day was how to fill out a voter card, what holes to punch (this was back in 1988), and who to vote for so that they could keep their welfare coming in. I was taken back, to say the least.
But that is what makes up the Democrat party. In our last presidential election, I was asked if Mitt Romney would make hair relaxer illegal. I was taken back, because I had no idea what the hell hair relaxer was, and was told that it was the stuff black women used to straighten out their hair. I asked her why she thought that, and it was because she was told that if she didn't vote for Obama, that if Mitt Romney became president he would make hair relaxer illegal.

I have lots of friends that are strong democrats who are really smart people, and I have lots of republican friends that are dumb as a box of rocks, but I don't have any republican friends that rely on the government for their support, and I do have some democrat friends that have been on welfare their whole adult lives.
 
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Well your very scientific way of showing what you believe has to be right then. Where are you topdecktiger? Are you going to say anything? Or? No...you won't because you believe every word. Because I don't believe every word I am a liberal right? Which in your world I am a liberal. You can't go much further right than a few of you who post on here.
 
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I laughed when I saw this. You do realize that the Democrats are made up of poor extremely low educated people. When I lived in South Carolina I visited an AME church, their sunday school lesson on that day was how to fill out a voter card, what holes to punch (this was back in 1988), and who to vote for so that they could keep their welfare coming in. I was taken back, to say the least.
But that is what makes up the Democrat party. In our last presidential election, I was asked if Mitt Romney would make hair relaxer illegal. I was taken back, because I had no idea what the hell hair relaxer was, and was told that it was the stuff black women used to straighten out their hair. I asked her why she thought that, and it was because she was told that if she didn't vote for Obama, that if Mitt Romney became president he would make hair relaxer illegal.

I have lots of friends that are strong democrats who are really smart people, and I have lots of republican friends that are dumb as a box of rocks, but I don't have any republican friends that rely on the government for their support, and I do have some democrat friends that have been on welfare their whole adult lives.
Hair relaxer!! Classic fear tactic LOL
 
I laughed when I saw this.
Laugh all you want. Doesn't change reality. Your post is what I'm talking about. Filled with propaganda and lies. Conservatives are impervious to reality and facts. It always boils down to some BS about race and/or immigrants and black churches and Al Sharpton and welfare and hair relaxer. :rolleyes:

You do realize that the Democrats are made up of poor extremely low educated people.
Completely false. Just couldn't be more wrong. The higher the education level, the more likely people are to vote Democratic. Those with a college degree vote Democratic at a higher rate and it's even bigger with post graduate degrees. Uneducated whites (those without a college degree) make up the base of the Republican party. That's why Trump actually said, "I love the poorly educated." And that's why Trump's lies and bigotry have garnered the most votes ever recorded in a Republican primary season.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...abato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/

...but I don't have any republican friends that rely on the government for their support, and I do have some democrat friends that have been on welfare their whole adult lives.
More complete misinformation based on anecdotal evidence and how a conservative "feels" it is. Most food stamp recipients are poorly educated whites for example. The same people who vote Republican against their own self interests every election. Because black people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html
 
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Well your very scientific way of showing what you believe has to be right then. Where are you topdecktiger? Are you going to say anything? Or? No...you won't because you believe every word. Because I don't believe every word I am a liberal right? Which in your world I am a liberal. You can't go much further right than a few of you who post on here.

You are just further demonstrating my point. My previous comments were in response to your statement:

It seems I am always taking up for the dems on here because of the people who are like you and the "fearless leader" crap

You made a specific point that it "seems" you are always taking up for the Democrats. Well, your own statement indicates that you do this frequently. My point to you was, since you acknowledge that you do this frequently, you are not applying your own standard fairly if you fail to equally defend Republicans.

You have confused this to mean that I'm somehow being hypocritical because I didn't respond to SoW's post. Well, see the difference is, I didn't make the claim "it seems I'm always taking up for Republicans." I was responding to you specifically, based on the specific nature of your comment. If you want to make the point that SoW's post was purely anecdotal and not rooted in fact, then yes, you're absolutely correct. However, the same could be said of Shultz's post, and I didn't respond to his either. What you don't understand is that my response to you has nothing to do with your beliefs. My response to you is based on the implication of your comment that you try to achieve a measure of impartiality, not the merits of your beliefs. SoW and Shultz (especially) didn't imply any sort of impartiality, which is why I didn't respond to either of them in the same manner.
 
I laughed when I saw this. You do realize that the Democrats are made up of poor extremely low educated people. When I lived in South Carolina I visited an AME church, their sunday school lesson on that day was how to fill out a voter card, what holes to punch (this was back in 1988), and who to vote for so that they could keep their welfare coming in. I was taken back, to say the least.
But that is what makes up the Democrat party. In our last presidential election, I was asked if Mitt Romney would make hair relaxer illegal. I was taken back, because I had no idea what the hell hair relaxer was, and was told that it was the stuff black women used to straighten out their hair. I asked her why she thought that, and it was because she was told that if she didn't vote for Obama, that if Mitt Romney became president he would make hair relaxer illegal.

I have lots of friends that are strong democrats who are really smart people, and I have lots of republican friends that are dumb as a box of rocks, but I don't have any republican friends that rely on the government for their support, and I do have some democrat friends that have been on welfare their whole adult lives.

"The ABC News/Washington Post poll says he has a less-educated base, while reaffirming two things we’ve already known: Trump is maintaining a huge gender and racial gap among his supporters."

“Trump also continues to rely on less-educated adults for his support,” the poll states."

"The difference is staggering."

"Among Republicans, 71 percent of noncollege graduates have a favorable opinion of Trump, compared to just 46 percent of college graduates."

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...abato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/

"In the article, Sabato goes on to explain more of the characteristics of the political parties’ faithful...The higher the education level, the more likely they are to vote Democratic, he said in the story."

"The more college graduates, the more Democratic (and especially more liberal) the state. The fewer college graduates, the more Republican and (and especially more conservative) the state."

Hair relaxer huh...this guy. I can tell you a story like that about any and everyone, but why would one generalize an entire party based on these alleged stories...then be wrong on which party relies on the less educated. Just see Trump and his supporters. Your ignorance to these facts are very telling, when you consider how you spoke so strongly on it. That kind of ignorance is dangerous. Reminds me of Trump.
 
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Well your very scientific way of showing what you believe has to be right then. Where are you topdecktiger? Are you going to say anything? Or? No...you won't because you believe every word. Because I don't believe every word I am a liberal right? Which in your world I am a liberal. You can't go much further right than a few of you who post on here.

I never made the claim my examples were scientific, they are experiences and those experiences have shaped my view of the democrat party. Like I said, i have lots of democrat friends, and the vast majority of them are poor uneducated blacks and latinos.

I have a few very well educated democrat friends and they are also black and Latino. My best friend who happens to be black is a very successful business man and owns his own company. He freely admitted to me, he is a Republican by heart, but because he is black he has to vote Democrat as his business relies on black on black support from the black community.

One of my ultra liberal Latino friends is extremely smart and we have some very excellent discussions on politics, he almost convinces me on the value of liberalism. But he always comes back to the same arguments. Republicans are evil, Republicans are racist, Republicans only love money, Republicans love war. As smart as he is, he has eaten the Democrat propaganda hook line and sinker.
 
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Laugh all you want. Doesn't change reality. Your post is what I'm talking about. Filled with propaganda and lies. Conservatives are impervious to reality and facts. It always boils down to some BS about race and/or immigrants and black churches and Al Sharpton and welfare and hair relaxer. :rolleyes:


Completely false. Just couldn't be more wrong. The higher the education level, the more likely people are to vote Democratic. Those with a college degree vote Democratic at a higher rate and it's even bigger with post graduate degrees. Uneducated whites (those without a college degree) make up the base of the Republican party. That's why Trump actually said, "I love the poorly educated." And that's why Trump's lies and bigotry have garnered the most votes ever recorded in a Republican primary season.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...abato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/


More complete misinformation based on anecdotal evidence and how a conservative "feels" it is. Most food stamp recipients are poorly educated whites for example. The same people who vote Republican against their own self interests every election. Because black people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html
Scholz Hillary spent $180 million and barely eeked out the democratic primary nomination over a guy who wasn't even a democrat before the primaries. I have no idea how she's even going to begin to hold up in the debates with Trump. Good grief it's going to be brutal. Unfortunately she's a career politician who accomplished basically nothing and will be exposed mercilessly. I do not think the majority of republicans are voting along public lines whatsoever. I believe Trump would receive major support as an Independant as well. People are sick of the status quo in Washington and that goes for the GOP. Boehner and Paul Ryan are there for a paycheck. They can both kick rocks. Ryan needs to be reminded he wasn't elected by the people to his position, he was appointed by his fellow do nothing cronies. It's time for major changes in my opinion.
 
I never made the claim my examples were scientific, they are experiences and those experiences have shaped my view of the democrat party. Like I said, i have lots of democrat friends, and the vast majority of them are poor uneducated blacks and latinos.

I have a few very well educated democrat friends and they are also black and Latino. My best friend who happens to be black is a very successful business man and owns his own company. He freely admitted to me, he is a Republican by heart, but because he is black he has to vote Democrat as his business relies on black on black support from the black community.

One of my ultra liberal Latino friends is extremely smart and we have some very excellent discussions on politics, he almost convinces me on the value of liberalism. But he always comes back to the same arguments. Republicans are evil, Republicans are racist, Republicans only love money, Republicans love war. As smart as he is, he has eaten the Democrat propaganda hook line and sinker.

I don't believe any of that BS coming from you. How do you post that other trash, and think you have any credibility. I'm sure that your best friend is black, but has to vote Democrat. BS! You have the most extreme stories...I mean lies. Hair relaxer, welfare, less educated, blah blah blah. You're the poster child for being fed propaganda.
 
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Trump has won the most votes in this Republican primary in history. But that's not the Republican party. Got it.

Do you seriously deny that Donald Trump is an unabashed racist?
Trump could have run Independent and done as well and garnered as many Republican votes in my opinion. People want major changes and I believe you'll see that come November. You and a few of your ilk should be the last to accuse anyone of voting along party lines. You should review Hillary's true thoughts on D.C. V. Heller not just the abstract view the liberal media is feeding their sheeple.
 
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I would also submit that one party is to blame for our lack of rational discourse in this country. Right wingers vote with their emotion and gut feel (lizard brains). They're irrational. They don't believe in facts or science. You can't have a rational discourse with such people.
Now you know how we feel. :)

If your "truth" is so self evident, why do you have to call people derogatory terms if they disagree with it? Wouldn't the open minded compassionate side of the aisle also be a little more tolerant of dissent?
 
You are just further demonstrating my point. My previous comments were in response to your statement:



You made a specific point that it "seems" you are always taking up for the Democrats. Well, your own statement indicates that you do this frequently. My point to you was, since you acknowledge that you do this frequently, you are not applying your own standard fairly if you fail to equally defend Republicans.

You have confused this to mean that I'm somehow being hypocritical because I didn't respond to SoW's post. Well, see the difference is, I didn't make the claim "it seems I'm always taking up for Republicans." I was responding to you specifically, based on the specific nature of your comment. If you want to make the point that SoW's post was purely anecdotal and not rooted in fact, then yes, you're absolutely correct. However, the same could be said of Shultz's post, and I didn't respond to his either. What you don't understand is that my response to you has nothing to do with your beliefs. My response to you is based on the implication of your comment that you try to achieve a measure of impartiality, not the merits of your beliefs. SoW and Shultz (especially) didn't imply any sort of impartiality, which is why I didn't respond to either of them in the same manner.
I never said I needed to do anything equally. I also said on the very post you are talking about the REASONS it seems I have to defend dems more.....just read a little. I am not trying to say I am an umpire. I disagreed with Scholz when he did the same thing when he said one party is to blame. but you chose to not read it or whatever.

I do choose to be more center of the road in my politics. I have said the reasons why many times. I think we are better off when both parties try to work together. I don't want ALL Dems and I don't want ALL Repubs. Is that wrong? I have been in many arguments with people wanting to take my guns....NOT going to happen. I am closer to Reagan than Clinton but Clinton is closer to Reagan than Trump. Make sense??? Although I do not believe in trickle down any more.

one more thing...look on this very board and show me examples of dems (except a few by scholz and compare to how many you see from the far right) blaming an entire half of the country for all the problems. There are MANY gop posters on here saying dems are lazy, obama is a kenyan, and on and on. I have to fight against the far right and far left.....ON HERE there are more far right.

I hate when people say "we need major change". Why? What is so bad? I love this country and this country is awesome! But I see people on here "burn it down" and start over. I don't get this KIND of rhetoric. I hate when people talk like that. I hate when politicians (like Trump) bring people's biases, and hatred and fears to the table instead of political policy. So sue me if that is so bad.

To anyone who does not love The United States......leave. Nothing is making you stay. Rant over.
 
Now you know how we feel. :)

If your "truth" is so self evident, why do you have to call people derogatory terms if they disagree with it? Wouldn't the open minded compassionate side of the aisle also be a little more tolerant of dissent?
Of course scholz is wrong when he says one party is to blame. Would you say the same?
 
Laugh all you want. Doesn't change reality. Your post is what I'm talking about. Filled with propaganda and lies. Conservatives are impervious to reality and facts. It always boils down to some BS about race and/or immigrants and black churches and Al Sharpton and welfare and hair relaxer. :rolleyes:

Basically you have no come back so you just call me a liar. I'm probably also a racist because I'm a conservative.

Completely false. Just couldn't be more wrong. The higher the education level, the more likely people are to vote Democratic. Those with a college degree vote Democratic at a higher rate and it's even bigger with post graduate degrees. Uneducated whites (those without a college degree) make up the base of the Republican party. That's why Trump actually said, "I love the poorly educated." And that's why Trump's lies and bigotry have garnered the most votes ever recorded in a Republican primary season.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...abato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/

Oh I'm sure there are a lot of well educated liberals seeing as how most of the Universities in this country on the East and West coast are liberal, However, look in the south and midwest and you will find lots and lots of conservative universities. I myself came from an incredibly liberal University but that didn't shape my views however it did help me to see both sides of this retoric.

More complete misinformation based on anecdotal evidence and how a conservative "feels" it is. Most food stamp recipients are poorly educated whites for example. The same people who vote Republican against their own self interests every election. Because black people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

See this is why I don't take Liberals very seriously. you like to use half truths to make a point.

Here is a website for you. http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
and
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/00


This country has 320 million citizens. 1/3 of which are on welfare. 38% of those are White, now how many whites live in this country well the percentage is 61%. 39% of blacks make up the total of those on Welfare and 17.6% are Hispanic.

Now lets get real with this. Didn't our Democratic president tell us that we are better off today? He boasts less than 5% unemployment but 33% of our citizens are on Welfare. This country is hanging on by a thread because of Republicans.

But back to the topic. Now if my math is correct, Roughly 110 million Americans are on welfare, and 39% are black that means that 42 million Black Americans are on welfare. There are roughly 54 million blacks in America and 42 million of them are on Welfare. But almost all 54 million are Democrats. Democrats control the Oval Office and the Senate but can't fix this. Back in the Clinton Administration they controlled the House, the Senate and the Oval Office and didn't fix this.

"The ABC News/Washington Post poll says he has a less-educated base, while reaffirming two things we’ve already known: Trump is maintaining a huge gender and racial gap among his supporters."

“Trump also continues to rely on less-educated adults for his support,” the poll states."

"The difference is staggering."

"Among Republicans, 71 percent of noncollege graduates have a favorable opinion of Trump, compared to just 46 percent of college graduates."

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...abato/education-level-tied-voting-tendencies/

What you fail to realize is the most of those who vote Republican aren't affiliated with the Republican party. I'm a Conservative, but I never poll as a Republican. I'm also educated as I have 3 degrees. I don't deny that a lot of Republicans are not college graduates, Most republicans are blue collar workers from conservative states. The vast majority of our Armed Forces Veterans are Conservative/Republican.

The Majority of our fighting force is conservative/Republican.


"In the article, Sabato goes on to explain more of the characteristics of the political parties’ faithful...The higher the education level, the more likely they are to vote Democratic, he said in the story."

"The more college graduates, the more Democratic (and especially more liberal) the state. The fewer college graduates, the more Republican and (and especially more conservative) the state."

Hair relaxer huh...this guy. I can tell you a story like that about any and everyone, but why would one generalize an entire party based on these alleged stories...then be wrong on which party relies on the less educated. Just see Trump and his supporters.

Riddle me this. Democrats seem to be all the minorities which make up roughly 40% of our population, and all the liberal college graduates, or should I say the vast majority of college graduates. Yet Republicans for the most part have controlled the whitehouse. Going back to 1980 the oval office has been Republican 20 years to the democrats 16 years. 3 republican Presidents to 2.

I don't believe any of that BS coming from you. How do you post that other trash, and think you have any credibility. I'm sure that your best friend is black, but has to vote Democrat. BS! You have the most extreme stories...I mean lies. Hair relaxer, welfare, less educated, blah blah blah. You're the poster child for being fed propaganda.

LOL, you are much more believable because you post stats from a liberal rag. Here is a hint for you, just because it's posted on the internet doesn't make it true. As far as propaganda, I am sharing stories about my experiences, it's easy for you to call them lies and propaganda but you are hiding from the truth.

Trump has won the most votes in this Republican primary in history. But that's not the Republican party. Got it.

Do you seriously deny that Donald Trump is an unabashed racist?

Yes I do deny that Trump is a Racist.

You see I know some real racist, they not only talk the talk but they walk the walk. A racist would never physically touch someone of color as they view them as inferior and filthy.


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Ever notice no one accused Donald Trump of being a Racist before he decided to run for the Presidency. He is a New Yorker who has been in public eye since 1980's. New York Republicans are by far the most liberal of all the Republicans. So liberal in fact that he has supported the Clinton's in the past, or should I say bought the Clinton's in the past.

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Or maybe the Clinton's like getting support from a Racist.
 
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I never said I needed to do anything equally. I also said on the very post you are talking about the REASONS it seems I have to defend dems more.....just read a little. I am not trying to say I am an umpire. I disagreed with Scholz when he did the same thing when he said one party is to blame. but you chose to not read it or whatever.

I do choose to be more center of the road in my politics. I have said the reasons why many times. I think we are better off when both parties try to work together. I don't want ALL Dems and I don't want ALL Repubs. Is that wrong? I have been in many arguments with people wanting to take my guns....NOT going to happen. I am closer to Reagan than Clinton but Clinton is closer to Reagan than Trump. Make sense??? Although I do not believe in trickle down any more.

one more thing...look on this very board and show me examples of dems (except a few by scholz and compare to how many you see from the far right) blaming an entire half of the country for all the problems. There are MANY gop posters on here saying dems are lazy, obama is a kenyan, and on and on. I have to fight against the far right and far left.....ON HERE there are more far right.

I hate when people say "we need major change". Why? What is so bad? I love this country and this country is awesome! But I see people on here "burn it down" and start over. I don't get this KIND of rhetoric. I hate when people talk like that. I hate when politicians (like Trump) bring people's biases, and hatred and fears to the table instead of political policy. So sue me if that is so bad.

To anyone who does not love The United States......leave. Nothing is making you stay. Rant over.

I did read a little. But again, you proved my point. You said:

I also said on the very post you are talking about the REASONS it seems I have to defend dems more.....just read a little.

Then you said:

There are MANY gop posters on here saying dems are lazy, obama is a kenyan, and on and on. I have to fight against the far right and far left.....ON HERE there are more far right.

So that would indicate you spend more time defending Democrats than Republicans, which was my point from the beginning. I also saw your response to Shultz. What you didn't take into account when you called me out is that I didn't respond to either Shultz or SoW. You can't criticize me for being silent about Sow's post, when I was also silent about Shultz's post as well. The fact that I was silent on both undermines your criticism.

That said, let me respond to your rant. All this is missing the mark. Here is the common thread between Trump and the Brexit vote. Both positions are against the establishment. Our society today favors a top-down, centralized, winner-take-all government (of course to varying degrees). The problem with that system is that you have large populations that want to live different lifestyles. With these one-size-fits-all governments, one group or the other is going to be hindered in pursuing their chosen lifestyle. That's the fundamental flaw in the EU, is that you have a small group in Brussels making top-down decisions that affect diverse populations with different values and lifestyles. It simply doesn't work over the long haul. It's also why we have some looming problems here, manifested in the support for Trump (and Bernie Sanders, for that matter).
 
Wasatch, Great point about Trump never being accused of being racist before now. Scholz and BLH, feel free to go lick your wounds. I have a feeling that hit dog gonna holler many more times between now and November though LOL =)roll
 
Nope. I always say it is both parties....and that we need term limits. He disagrees wholeheartedly and has stated as such.

I will go a step further.

I would support whole heatedly the party that gives this country Term limits for house and senate. A balanced budget amendment, and steps to ensure we can pay off our debt including the raising of our taxes.

I have no problem with welfare, but I have a huge problem with having a national debt that is 105% of our GDP. We can't survive like this.

If you can look at this website:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

And know what it says and not be scared shitless you are either extremely rich or have an exit strategy. This is shit our federal government can't fix they have to do it the old fashion way of paying it off with your money.
 
I will go a step further.

I would support whole heatedly the party that gives this country Term limits for house and senate. A balanced budget amendment, and steps to ensure we can pay off our debt including the raising of our taxes.

I have no problem with welfare, but I have a huge problem with having a national debt that is 105% of our GDP. We can't survive like this.

If you can look at this website:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

And know what it says and not be scared shitless you are either extremely rich or have an exit strategy. This is shit our federal government can't fix they have to do it the old fashion way of paying it off with your money.

I could get behind this for sure. The welfare thing needs to be addressed but a good way to address it would be get some good paying jobs going somehow....either party.....just get them going! I am for a strong Defense but we spend crazy money on it to. We spend more than the next 10 countries combined and that cannot be continued forever. DON'T want to gut DEFENSE either so anyone reading this please don't go all nuts on me. lol
 
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