I'LL START WITH HARBAUGH AND SEE IF WE CAN AGREE TO THE DIFFERENCE:
4-8
5-7
8-5
followed by:
12-1
Everyone that's willing to listen is available.I don't know what you guys want. Charlie Strong is getting fired. You guys got what you have been begging for the last 3 years. This thread is about potential replacements. Of course, no one available is good enough in your eyes to be the coach at Texas and the guys that you think are good enough aren't available.
They were not coaching at "blue blood" programs?
I'LL START WITH HARBAUGH AND SEE IF WE CAN AGREE TO THE DIFFERENCE:
4-8
5-7
8-5
followed by:
12-1
Damn, don't be dense, His first three years give you the point intended...he was 8-5 in year 3.You can't compare someone's fist 4 years to someone else's first 3.
The facts are his teams got better over that span unlike Charlie at Texas:It's not my opinion that Harbaugh went 17-20 during his first 3 years at Stanford.
Harbaugh is not a 3rd year coach and he inherited a program with a top 5 defense and that already ran a pro-style offense. Hoke just was not a good HC. Washington was an 8 win team from Sarkesian with good talent, Peterson just changed the offense and defense schemes.
,I'LL START WITH HARBAUGH AND SEE IF WE CAN AGREE TO THE DIFFERENCE:
4-8
5-7
8-5
followed by:
12-1
CORRECTHarbaugh is a proven coach that Michigan went out and got, he isn't just a coach but he was a proven commodity. I'm on record that we should do the same with John Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin, or Chip Kelly. Those are my top candidates.
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If Strong was 8-5 in year 3, he would still be the coach at Texas, end of story.
Let me try this again. I think any coach that was present with the situation that Charlie Strong was should be given sufficient time to fix the problem. In my opinion, year 1 was a waste because he didn't get on campus until the middle of January, he spent the first off-season rooting out the bad element from the locker room, and the team was ravaged by injuries. That gives him 2 years to rebuild from the ground up. Almost none of the comparisons you are making are similar and the ones that are got more time.
This isn't about Charlie Strong for me. This is about our fans having enough patience to let whoever the coach is do their job.
I completely disagree, Charlie has simply let too many games get away from him.Let me try this again. I think any coach that was present with the situation that Charlie Strong was should be given sufficient time to fix the problem. In my opinion, year 1 was a waste because he didn't get on campus until the middle of January, he spent the first off-season rooting out the bad element from the locker room, and the team was ravaged by injuries. That gives him 2 years to rebuild from the ground up. Almost none of the comparisons you are making are similar and the ones that are got more time.
This isn't about Charlie Strong for me. This is about our fans having enough patience to let whoever the coach is do their job.
Three years is plenty of time to prove you can get the job done.
Our fan base seems to know more about football than you do.
I completely disagree, Charlie has simply let too many games get away from him.
His mismanagement of time and assistants have finally worn me out. I'm done and I love me some Charlie Strong. This is too big a task for him, he's a good coach and I think he will be successful elsewhere.
He is not the right man for Texas...
It's not my opinion that Harbaugh went 17-20 during his first 3 years at Stanford.
It was talent and now its experience? What do you consider experience? Because Foreman is a junior who has played a lot of football. A true freshman should be better the 9th game from the 1st also. Strong can't get something out of his players for whatever reason.Did I say that none of it was his fault? I guess I'm the only person on this board that think players need experience in order to get better.
SSSHHHHH...don't bring facts to an opinion fight.It's also not an opinion that Stanford's records the 5 seasons before Harbaugh arrived were 2-9, 4-7, 4-7, 5-6 and 1-11. That's 16 wins over 5 seasons.
really, don't. The people that want to keep Strong aren't interested in facts. They like Strong the youth counselor, and won't let themselves see that our team is bad. They'll give you every excuse under the sun, and not even a loss to Kansas will prove to them that the team is terrible. Consider that for a second. No matter what excuse you have, Strong just coached his team into losing to a team that doesn't have a single player on their roster who would have gotten a scholarship offer at Texas. He has taken superior talent and turned it into garbage.SSSHHHHH...don't bring facts to an opinion fight.
It was talent and now its experience? What do you consider experience? Because Foreman is a junior who has played a lot of football. A true freshman should be better the 9th game from the 1st also. Strong can't get something out of his players for whatever reason.
I don't hear any reasons for keeping Strong from you other than just going against the majority, or no talent, and then experience. Tell us about his coaching that has impressed on you on gameday? Please.
It's also not an opinion that Stanford's records the 5 seasons before Harbaugh arrived were 2-9, 4-7, 4-7, 5-6 and 1-11. That's 16 wins over 5 seasons.
You did not tell me about Strong's coaching during games that has impressed you..It was always both. Do you not think that players need experience?
Do you not think that Foreman in a vastly improved player?
Do you not think that the following players have improved:
Charles O.
Breckyn Hager
Connor Williams
Shane Buechle
Poona Ford
Malcom Roach
Zach Schackleford
Collin Johnson
Jerrod Heard
Texas Offense:
Overall - 15th
Passing - 41st
Rushing - 15th
Scoring - 41st
I see that as improvement.
All of that being said, Charlie Strong is not going to be the coach at Texas any longer and I have accepted that. Can we please move on.
I always thought Coach Strong should have gotten a longer leash that what would be expected, because of the potential backlash that his firing could have on recruiting. I'm sure that you guys will think I'm totally wrong about that and hopefully your right. However, we now recruit against SEC schools and they will use anything to get a recruit.
There are currently 3 recruits in the Rivals 100 Top 10 and none of them are give us the time day.
It looks like we are going after Herman and the narrative has already begun that he isn't good enough.
So the even younger team that played and destroyed Kansas last year is on the track of improvement when they lose to them the next year?
Last year, they going to turn the ball over 4 times and this year we turn it over 6 times. Should we have pulled Buechele?
So last year we forced turnovers and this year we turned it over. So which is it, are we improving or are we sucking?
Tell us all about some of Coach Strong's great coaching moves that you have seen. Maybe we just haven't seen what you have.You're right. D'Onta Foreman has regressed since last year, because he had 3 fumbles against Kansas this year. He is a worse football player now, then when he arrive on campus. Shane Buechele, a true freshman, played the worst game of his career on Saturday. I can't wait to replace him.
And by the way IF a rb or qb did that game after game THEY WOULD BE REPLACED!...You're right. D'Onta Foreman has regressed since last year, because he had 3 fumbles against Kansas this year. He is a worse football player now, then when he arrive on campus. Shane Buechele, a true freshman, played the worst game of his career on Saturday. I can't wait to replace him.
Are you playing devil's advocate or do you really believe Strong and Harbaugh @ Stanford are equivalents and Strong is on track for something?
And by the way IF a rb or qb did that game after game THEY WOULD BE REPLACED!...
Probably somebody that would hold onto the football......So who would you replace Foreman with?
Only Strong is not going to lose his job ONLY BECAUSE HE LOST TO KANSAS......3 years of not improving on the field is what is going to get him fired. Kansas was just the last straw. Iowa St last year was just as inexcusable to most of us.The KU loss was terrible. But know who else has some bad losses on his resume? Herman.
UT was favored against KU by 23 and lost. Houston was favored against SMU by roughly 23 and lost. So according to the histrionics showed on this board by some Houston should also consider firing Herman because of that bad loss. Don't forget he also lost to Navy.
Yes, he has two quality wins, but Strong has some very close losses and some good wins in his tenure. (Do people forget he beat OU last year and was within one score from winning this year? He also beat Baylor when they were top 15.)