potential replacements

[dj701919]

Tell us all about some of Coach Strong's great coaching moves that you have seen. Maybe we just haven't seen what you have.

Do you see that our defense improved after he started calling the plays?
Were 3rd in the nation in sacks
We have a Heisman Trophy candidate at RB
We have a future 1st Round draft pick at LT
We have a Freshman All-American QB
Our WR Corp is as deep as it has been in 12 years
Our CB play has improved noticably over the last month

The biggest problem we've had this year our failure put all 3 phases of the game together.

As a result, Coach Strong got fired. That is not an unreasonable response based on the outcome.

 

[dtrain87]

Do you see that our defense improved after he started calling the plays?
Were 3rd in the nation in sacks
We have a Heisman Trophy candidate at RB
We have a future 1st Round draft pick at LT
We have a Freshman All-American QB
Our WR Corp is as deep as it has been in 12 years
Our CB play has improved noticably over the last month

The biggest problem we've had this year our failure put all 3 phases of the game together.

As a result, Coach Strong got fired. That is not an unreasonable response based on the outcome.

The RB is gone and the QB might get his job taken by a true freshman.

 

[TexExSpur]

The KU loss was terrible. But know who else has some bad losses on his resume? Herman.

UT was favored against KU by 23 and lost. Houston was favored against SMU by roughly 23 and lost. So according to the histrionics showed on this board by some Houston should also consider firing Herman because of that bad loss. Don't forget he also lost to Navy.

Yes, he has two quality wins, but Strong has some very close losses and some good wins in his tenure. (Do people forget he beat OU last year and was within one score from winning this year? He also beat Baylor when they were top 15.)

I'm not sold on Herman either, but if you want to look at Herman coaching in the American then you might consider looking at Strong while at Louisville (that QB was obviously special).

One other thing, Herman doesn't have the depth Texas has and his team hasn't been healthy.

Like Chad Morris at SMU, if he had depth, they would win a ton of games, but he doesn't have a good rotation and his team gets worn plum out.

Strong got shutout by ISU last year and ended a 78 year record versus Kansas, somethings simply don't add up.

I was all for Strong coming back without any bad losses this year, but it doesn't get any worse than that Kansas loss.

 

[dj701919]

Probably somebody that would hold onto the football......

I think you missed the point though. I said IF a QB or RB kept turning the ball over game after game they would be replaced. I have been around sports my entire life and that is the way it has always been. Did I say something strange to you?

I agree totally, if you believe that you have someone that was better. If the best cornerback you have is average, you wouldn't replace him with someone that's below average. So when your asking yourself why some guys are getting to play, that should tell you what the coach thinks of their back-up.

As it relates specifically to the Kansas game, you are correct. Buechele hasn't repeatedly turned the ball over, but he did versus Kansas. Does that mean he's gotten worse? No. He just had a very bad game at an inopportune time and that's how you get beat by Kansas.

 

[swVAHorn]

Do you see that our defense improved after he started calling the plays?
Were 3rd in the nation in sacks
We have a Heisman Trophy candidate at RB
We have a future 1st Round draft pick at LT
We have a Freshman All-American QB
Our WR Corp is as deep as it has been in 12 years
Our CB play has improved noticably over the last month

The biggest problem we've had this year our failure put all 3 phases of the game together.

As a result, Coach Strong got fired. That is not an unreasonable response based on the outcome.

I agree the defense has improved.....could it have gotten worse? Just like the offense has improved from last year.

There is clearly more talent now than when Strong took over. That is why some of us are so upset at how this team plays.

If they keep Strong which is still an option based on what has been said, I hope he turns into the greatest Coach ever and you can tell all of us how wrong we were. I would be happy to eat crow.

 

[swVAHorn]

I agree totally, if you believe that you have someone that was better. If the best cornerback you have is average, you wouldn't replace him with someone that's below average. So when your asking yourself why some guys are getting to play, that should tell you what the coach thinks of their back-up.

As it relates specifically to the Kansas game, you are correct. Buechele hasn't repeatedly turned the ball over, but he did versus Kansas. Does that mean he's gotten worse? No. He just had a very bad game at an inopportune time and that's how you get beat by Kansas.

You're switching the argument around quite a bit dj...

Strong is not getting fired JUST because of Kansas. He has shown over a 3 year period that he can't handle this job. If it were just one game then you would be absolutely right.

Do you think Texas is well coached? Very simple question.

 

[RainyTX81]

IMO, if/when Herman comes in I expect to see Heard get another crack at QB. He fits Herman's style of QB better than anything we currently have.

 

[dj701919]

I agree the defense has improved.....could it have gotten worse? Just like the offense has improved from last year.

There is clearly more talent now than when Strong took over. That is why some of us are so upset at how this team plays.

If they keep Strong which is still an option based on what has been said, I hope he turns into the greatest Coach ever and you can tell all of us how wrong we were. I would be happy to eat crow.

1. I wouldn't do that. What's the point. At the end of the day, we are passionate because we want the team to do well. I could just as easily be wrong.

2. Whether we like to admit it or not, there was a historical significance to hiring Coach Strong, and I would hate for other schools to use his firing as a weapon against us in recruiting. For that reason allow, I would be very wary about pulling the plug to soon.

 

[Scholz]

Harbaugh is not a 3rd year coach and he inherited a program with a top 5 defense and that already ran a pro-style offense. Hoke just was not a good HC. Washington was an 8 win team from Sarkesian with good talent, Peterson just changed the offense and defense schemes.

You're right. Harbaugh is a 2nd year coach. Makes my point even moreso.

You can't tell me the cupboard at those two schools was that much better than at UT. Not buying that.

 

[TexExSpur]

IMO, if/when Herman comes in I expect to see Heard get another crack at QB. He fits Herman's style of QB better than anything we currently have.

Heard chose to play WR. It's where he wants to be.

 

[dtrain87]

Heard chose to play WR. It's where he wants to be.

He would have to hit the weights and gym to be the Tim Tebow/JT Barrett or Dak Prescott body type. I think Ehlinger fits the mold better, but Herman would recruit to fill the mold and make due with what he has, like at UH, with scrawny Greg Ward, about the same size as Buechele.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Shane will be the QB next year. He'd be having a huge year with receivers who could catch.

 

[dtrain87]

You're right. Harbaugh is a 2nd year coach. Makes my point even moreso.

You can't tell me the cupboard at those two schools was that much better than at UT. Not buying that.

The facts say they had way better talent and UW was winning with Sark, who just jetted to his dream job at USC. Michigan had a top 5 defense and ran sim offensive system to Stanford. Their OC was the former Alabama OC before Kiffin took over. Michigan had talent, just not a good HC.

 

[dj701919]

You're switching the argument around quite a bit dj...

Strong is not getting fired JUST because of Kansas. He has shown over a 3 year period that he can't handle this job. If it were just one game then you would be absolutely right.

Do you think Texas is well coached? Very simple question.

I wasn't trying to imply that he was just being fired because a Kansas. I was trying to provide context on how any team can get beat by an inferior opponent, if the right conditions occur. I fully understand that the decision to fire Coach Strong is based on his performance over his entire tenure to include all of his losses.

Do I think that Texas is well coached? Yes, but I evaluate Coach Strong on the last 2 recruiting classes. You can't bring a coach in 2 weeks before signing day and expect him to do much other than hold the existing class together. He also had to flush a bunch of turds. He had to completely change the culture of the team. In addition, you aren't going to win a lot of games with a TE and a WR playing QB behind a Oline that can't block anyone.

Has he made some in game coaches decisions that are questionable? Of course, show me a coach that doesn't make questionable in game decisions. Can you think about all the things that are going on in the 30-40 seconds between plays? There are going to be mistakes. That's part of the game.

 

[dtrain87]

Shane will be the QB next year. He'd be having a huge year with receivers who could catch.

Herman wants a running QB, ever watched Florida or Ohio State play under Meyer? Buechele is not very athletic physically.

 

[ASURAM2010]

Harbaugh is not a 3rd year coach and he inherited a program with a top 5 defense and that already ran a pro-style offense. Hoke just was not a good HC. Washington was an 8 win team from Sarkesian with good talent, Peterson just changed the offense and defense schemes.

Wasn't Mack 8-3 in his final year and Charlie changed schemes? Apples to Apples except the apples in Austin are a whole heck of a lot more scrutinized.

 

[dtrain87]

IMO, if/when Herman comes in I expect to see Heard get another crack at QB. He fits Herman's style of QB better than anything we currently have.

You are correct, he just needs to gain some weight and get tougher. They have a running game, which UH doesn't, so they would likely work around QB situation and recruit kids that fit the Tebo/JT Barrett/Dak Prescott mold better, because Buechele don't.

 

[TexExSpur]

Wasn't Mack 8-3 in his final year and Charlie changed schemes? Apples to Apples except the apples in Austin are a whole heck of a lot more scrutinized.

Hell, Mack was 8-3 in his last year, blown out in his last 2 games, had a brain injured QB, the Herp Derp and save the titties marching in Austin.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Herman wants a running QB, ever watched Florida or Ohio State play under Meyer? Buechele is not very athletic physically.

If a coach doesn't Taylor his system to his players skill sets he's not a coach.

 

[Bass Elder]

[QUOTE="aggie1982, post:

Also, what do you think is a reasonable result for 2017?[/QUOTE]

Charlie Strong is on Record saying the coach at the University of Texas next year will win 10 games.

.. there ya go Charlie - Go Get'em

 

[crazypatriotguy]

1. I wouldn't do that. What's the point. At the end of the day, we are passionate because we want the team to do well. I could just as easily be wrong.

2. Whether we like to admit it or not, there was a historical significance to hiring Coach Strong, and I would hate for other schools to use his firing as a weapon against us in recruiting. For that reason allow, I would be very wary about pulling the plug to soon.

If teams can use something for negative recruiting, they're going to. If Strong was 0-35 right now and about to get fired, other coaches would still use his firing against us. It's not a good reason to keep a coach.

 

[team1984]

Larry Fedora? Member had success with NC coaches in the past. I member....

 

[Pumpedup55]

UT was stuck on hiring a black HC because of Bev Kerney. They could not get Shaw, they should have taken James Franklin. He was great at Vandy and now is turning Penn State around.

You whipped out that black thing again

 

[Scholz]

The facts say they had way better talent

If you say so. Even if that's true, Texas talent wasn't 3 losing seasons in a row bad.

 

[TexExSpur]

Charlie promised no more 5 loss seasons after year 1, he proceeds to say this team will win 10 games next season.

Sorry Charlie, I'm no longer buying what you're selling.