Q regarding Schiano situation

[Iitbhorn3]

I have no knowledge and no judgement of Schiano. This post is not about him.

If his past can keep him from getting a job at Tennessee, why are tOSU fans/boosters OK with him coaching at their school.

Why was this not brought up when Urban hired him last year?
Do tOSU fans have such a different moral compass?

 

[clob94]

Your DC is not the face of your program. This has less to do with child molestation and more to do with Tennessee fans pouting because they didn't get Jon Gruden. Think of it as an adult temper tantrum.

 

[ryan_sublett]

The sad thing is he doesn’t really have a “past”. One person in the Penn State saga said they told Schiano about Sandusky. That’s it. He was a DB coach and by the time he got to campus Paternio and the Admin had already known and swept under the rug aqusations against Sandusky. Dan Wetzel who was really the first journalist covering the Penn State story broke it down in an article last night.

It’s unfouranite for Schiano his resume at Rutgers says he should be an HC somewhere. And honestly I don’t think Tennessee fans objected to this hiring on some sort of moral basis either. They had dulisions of Gruden and when that didn’t happen they went bananas. In the process turned their job radio active. Not even Lane Kiffin would take it now.

 

[Iitbhorn3]

The sad thing is he doesn’t really have a “past”. One person in the Penn State saga said they told Schiano about Sandusky. That’s it. He was a DB coach and by the time he got to campus Paternio and the Admin had already known and swept under the rug aqusations against Sandusky. Dan Wetzel who was really the first journalist covering the Penn State story broke it down in an article last night.

It’s unfouranite for Schiano his resume at Rutgers says he should be an HC somewhere. And honestly I don’t think Tennessee fans objected to this hiring on some sort of moral basis either. They had dulisions of Gruden and when that didn’t happen they went bananas. In the process turned their job radio active. Not even Lane Kiffin would take it now.

You and I do not know what exactly transpired and who knew what. Dan Wetzel also does not know.
Very often, fair or not, we pay the price for the associations we maintain - even if we are innocent.
Schiano cannot control that. He worked directly (DL) under Sandusky (DC) for 5 years.
The only thing that matters that Schiano's is at peace with himself.
The rest will be easy to deal with.

 

[EyesOnTexas]

Your DC is not the face of your program. This has less to do with child molestation and more to do with Tennessee fans pouting because they didn't get Jon Gruden. Think of it as an adult temper tantrum.

Then get Kendall Briles as OC .

 

[ryan_sublett]

You and I do not know what exactly transpired and who knew what. Dan Wetzel also does not know.
Very often, fair or not, we pay the price for the associations we maintain - even if we are innocent.
Schiano cannot control that. He worked directly (DL) under Sandusky (DC) for 5 years.
The only thing that matters that Schiano's is at peace with himself.
The rest will be easy to deal with.

We don’t know exactly who knew what, but we know enough to say Schiano shouldn’t be punished because people need some sort of satisfaction they didn’t get before. We also know that the cover up was well under way before Schiano ever got there. It was first brought to joe’s attention in the 80’s

The only reason Schiano’s name was even in the conversation is because someone said he was told or saw something. That’s pretty much it. I look at it this way.

Paternio died with his legacy trashed
Sandusky went to prison
The AD and university president either did time or are doing time
And the football program got one step shy of the death penalty.

I’d sayin this terrible situation we did whst we could to adiquitly punish the folks involved. Trying to retroactively banish anyone assosated to PSU is crazy

I also wonder if you would of seen the same outrage if they hired Art Briles. I’m not sure it would of, and I think that says a lot about priorities.

 

[LonghornMM]

Your DC is not the face of your program. This has less to do with child molestation and more to do with Tennessee fans pouting because they didn't get Jon Gruden. Think of it as an adult temper tantrum.

Yes, and no. Do you think Briles will get a shot as an OC at a major school? Most likely not, and deservedly so. So, that being said, why should Schiano have gotten his position with OSU? I agree with you on the Tennessee fans being butt hurt about not getting Gruden, which wasn't realistic to begin with anyway.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Yes, and no. Do you think Briles will get a shot as an OC at a major school? Most likely not, and deservedly so. So, that being said, why should Schiano have gotten his position with OSU? I agree with you on the Tennessee fans being butt hurt about not getting Gruden, which wasn't realistic to begin with anyway.

I don’t think you can compare Briles to Schiano. Briles was the head coach, he actively engaged in a coverup of rape accusations and quite possibly intemidated whitnessss.

The only thing schiano is guilty of was agreeing to take a job at what turned out to be a sleaze box. Like I said the only reason he was even brought in to it was because one witness testified that schiano heard about or saw some abuse took place. To my knowlage that is just one persons account and that is pretty much it.

So I don’t think you can compare that to Art Briles or even Kendall Briles. I do agree with clob though the outrage is more about it not being Gruden which is why I asked is if Briles who I think we all agree football wise is one of the best coaches out there would generate the same response.

I actually don’t fault Vols fans for being disappointed by the schiano hiring but what I find sad is the character asanation and mob mentality that took place. Not only did you scuttle the hiring at Tennessee, but you probably killed any shot he had at a head job ever again.

 

[easttx903]

saw this on another site. take it for what it is.

 

[diadevic]

I don’t think you can compare Briles to Schiano. Briles was the head coach, he actively engaged in a coverup of rape accusations and quite possibly intemidated whitnessss.

Baylor University is standing behind a letter written in May to former head football coach Art Briles that states the school is unaware of Briles having direct contact with anyone reporting a sexual assault to him or of Briles directly discouraging a victim from reporting to police or university officials, a Baylor spokesman said Friday

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher...cle_9143fdd0-7cbc-533a-99c3-64ef02ddfeb4.html

 

[Mister Moses]

I think thats unfair to Schiano there was no proof of it. I think he was 25 years old at Penn State. I wouldn’t want Gruden for a coach. He hasn’t recruited in 30 yrs. I turn the channel when I hear him on tv. Of course I don’t like hardly any talking heads on tv. I want that gravy job of guessing what the replay officials will rule.

 

[Iitbhorn3]

I want the job of the media guy who walks onto the field during timeouts!

 

[clob94]

Yes, and no. Do you think Briles will get a shot as an OC at a major school? Most likely not, and deservedly so. So, that being said, why should Schiano have gotten his position with OSU? I agree with you on the Tennessee fans being butt hurt about not getting Gruden, which wasn't realistic to begin with anyway.

The Ohio st athletic director, Eugene Smith, is a man whose integrity is beyond reproach. He's a Notre Dame grad, has been awarded numerous prestigious commendations and I can assure you, before Shiano was hired, Smith made certain that Schiano had zero knowledge of what was happening with Sandusky.

The Tennessee fans know this, but Clay Travis and a few others got this thing to snowball on social media. Schiano will eventually sue Tennessee and win big-time, and he'll eventually get a job somewhere else. Tennessee fans should be ashamed and the Tennessee AD should be fired.

 

[easttx903]

Schiano will eventually sue Tennessee and win big-time, and he'll eventually get a job somewhere else. Tennessee fans should be ashamed and the Tennessee AD should be fired.

yup. hes gonna sue Tennessee, Clay Travis, and outkickthecoverage.com and get paid by every one of them.

 

[bubba2023]

I don't think he's suing anyone. In order to win such a lawsuit wouldn't he have to prove A) everything is false and B) that the defendants knew it was false and spread rumors with the intent to harm?

I don't see how either is remotely possible seeing as how it's a fact that he was named in the Sandusky scandal. It may not be some stone cold smoking gun he done it implications, but that doesn't matter in a libel/slander suit. There certainly isn't enough there to convict him of any crimes, but unfortunately there is enough there to not allow him to clear his name.