Strong officially targeting Cumbie
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He's a west Texas boy. With stints at Cooper, Angelo, Temple, and then college BGSU and now Tulsa.
For me it doesn't get any better than when he calls a Play Action pass...it must be tough for you though knowing his entire playbook!
Rumblings that Strong has reached out to Hurtt. That would be a big addition because he's a heck of a coach and recruiter!
It's only hot if you listen to the loud Vibrato from some fans.
http://www.hookem.com/2015/12/03/so...talk-with-charlie-strong-about-joining-texas/
Strong and Cumbie likely to meet early next week.
Perrin says there currently isn't a cap for the new OC's salary.
Strong and Cumbie likely to meet early next week.
Perrin says there currently isn't a cap for the new OC's salary.
It seems like every day, new rumors pop up on where Texas is with an offensive coordinator search that's about to really heat up this weekend. As has been discussed at length, TCU co-offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Sonny Cumbie is the top target by a wide margin. Charlie Strong has zeroed in on the 34-year-old to be the man in charge of the Texas offense in 2016, but people need to slow down on some of the speculation that seem to pop up by the hour.
At least for now.
After talking to numerous sources on Thursday evening, I can confirm that any talk of a deal with Cumbie being in place are premature. Nothing has been agreed upon, and the talks aren't nearly far enough along that some under-the-table agreement is even a possibility.
Cumbie is still out recruiting this week as if he's going to TCU, which you'd expect from any coach in his position. On Wednesday, he did an in-home visit with TCU quarterback commitment Brennen Wooten, and the topic of Cumbie going to Texas wasn't exactly dominating the conversation. It was broached, but nothing was said that makes the picture any clearer from what I've been told.
Charlie Strong mentioned on Monday that he had not had any direct contact with Cumbie. As of Thursday night, that still appears to be the case. Strong is focused on Saturday's game against Baylor and isn't going to disrespect his staff by talking to another coach while his staff is still working. Look for Strong to reach out to TCU head coach Gary Patterson sometime on Saturday night or Sunday to put in a request to talk to Cumbie, and things could then move pretty quickly.
So where does it look like things could be heading, once this sucker really picks up steam in the next two or three days?
Earlier in the week, we mentioned that Cumbie's likelihood of landing in Austin was largely dependent on the situation with TCU co-OC Doug Meacham. Meacham on Monday was rumored to be the leader for the North Texas head coaching position (there was even an inaccurate report he had taken the job). Had Meacham gone to UNT, Texas landing Cumbie was going to be an uphill battle. Meacham is no longer in the picture for North Texas, which could have swung the pendulum in a big way back in Texas' direction.
In talking to a couple people tonight, Cumbie has not given indication to anyone that he's leaning one way or another, but people I talked to on Thursday night believe there's a strong chance he takes the Texas job now that Meachum appears he'll be staying at TCU. The difference in salary that Texas will be able to offer compared to what TCU can offer a co-coordinator will be too much for TCU to overcome. Being the sole play-caller is another factor that weighs in Texas' favor, as does the idea that Cumbie can really elevate his career stock if he comes in and fixes the Texas offense.
Bottom line ... there's been a lot of speculation and people jumping the gun, but this one's not as far along as some of the rumors have indicated. Things should move quickly over the next few days, but we're in a bit of a holding pattern right now.
One thing to file away ... OU offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley is a candidate for the vacant South Carolina head coaching gig. Riley did interview but is not expected to get the job. If he somehow manages to land the gig, expect Cumbie's name to be immediately tied in to the open position with the Sooners. He was high on OU's list (right behind Riley, in fact) 11 months ago. (Suchomel)
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The recent of announcement of a two-year deal between Mike Perrin and Texas has not changed the mindset of anyone in the football office.
Strong may have been hired by former athletic director Steve Patterson and president Williams Powers Jr., but both men are long gone. Strong never had a close relationship with Patterson, so it is not like he lost a close friend. From what I have been told, Strong has a much better relationship with Perrin than the one he had with Patterson.
From the outside, it would have been better for Strong to enter next season with Powers and Patterson still around, but sources close to the football coach said he does not view it that way.
Instead, I have been told Strong and his staff believe next year is a do-or-die season. Nobody believes their job security would be safer if Patterson or Power were still in charge. They see Perrin’s two-year deal as a move that does not change what is expected of them in 2016, which is drastic improvement.
Sources close to Strong have said the coach understands if he does not win next season, it will likely be his last at Texas. It is just hard to know what the magic number needs to be next year. Clearly, anything less than eight wins will put the entire staff in jeopardy. Eight wins – depending on the opponents – might be enough. Obviously, nine-or-more wins will help Strong’s argument to remain at Texas.
Considering there is a sense of urgency in the football office, Longhorn fans should expect the new offensive coordinator to make whatever changes he deems necessary to win next season.
The new person in charge will be given the green light to hire his offensive staff. Considering the contracts of quarterbacks coach Shawn Watson, offensive line coach Joe Wickline and running backs coach Tommie Robinson expire after this season, those coaches will probably find work elsewhere. We have been told Wickline may have another job lined up, with North Carolina being his likely landing spot, but it seems like his tenure at Texas will end after Saturday’s game against Baylor.
Meanwhile, receiver coach Jay Norvell could be retained by the new offensive coordinator. If the new OC wants to hire a tight ends coach, Jeff Traylor will focus on being the team’s special teams coordinator and relinquish the additional duty.
The current staff could know its fate by Sunday. Strong is expected to move very fast with the hiring of his new offensive coordinator, and might have a staff update when he meets with the media on Monday.
The retention of Perrin is good for UT, but it does not change the mindset within Strong’s program. (Richardson)
At least for now.
After talking to numerous sources on Thursday evening, I can confirm that any talk of a deal with Cumbie being in place are premature. Nothing has been agreed upon, and the talks aren't nearly far enough along that some under-the-table agreement is even a possibility.
Cumbie is still out recruiting this week as if he's going to TCU, which you'd expect from any coach in his position. On Wednesday, he did an in-home visit with TCU quarterback commitment Brennen Wooten, and the topic of Cumbie going to Texas wasn't exactly dominating the conversation. It was broached, but nothing was said that makes the picture any clearer from what I've been told.
Charlie Strong mentioned on Monday that he had not had any direct contact with Cumbie. As of Thursday night, that still appears to be the case. Strong is focused on Saturday's game against Baylor and isn't going to disrespect his staff by talking to another coach while his staff is still working. Look for Strong to reach out to TCU head coach Gary Patterson sometime on Saturday night or Sunday to put in a request to talk to Cumbie, and things could then move pretty quickly.
So where does it look like things could be heading, once this sucker really picks up steam in the next two or three days?
Earlier in the week, we mentioned that Cumbie's likelihood of landing in Austin was largely dependent on the situation with TCU co-OC Doug Meacham. Meacham on Monday was rumored to be the leader for the North Texas head coaching position (there was even an inaccurate report he had taken the job). Had Meacham gone to UNT, Texas landing Cumbie was going to be an uphill battle. Meacham is no longer in the picture for North Texas, which could have swung the pendulum in a big way back in Texas' direction.
In talking to a couple people tonight, Cumbie has not given indication to anyone that he's leaning one way or another, but people I talked to on Thursday night believe there's a strong chance he takes the Texas job now that Meachum appears he'll be staying at TCU. The difference in salary that Texas will be able to offer compared to what TCU can offer a co-coordinator will be too much for TCU to overcome. Being the sole play-caller is another factor that weighs in Texas' favor, as does the idea that Cumbie can really elevate his career stock if he comes in and fixes the Texas offense.
Bottom line ... there's been a lot of speculation and people jumping the gun, but this one's not as far along as some of the rumors have indicated. Things should move quickly over the next few days, but we're in a bit of a holding pattern right now.
One thing to file away ... OU offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley is a candidate for the vacant South Carolina head coaching gig. Riley did interview but is not expected to get the job. If he somehow manages to land the gig, expect Cumbie's name to be immediately tied in to the open position with the Sooners. He was high on OU's list (right behind Riley, in fact) 11 months ago. (Suchomel)
******
The recent of announcement of a two-year deal between Mike Perrin and Texas has not changed the mindset of anyone in the football office.
Strong may have been hired by former athletic director Steve Patterson and president Williams Powers Jr., but both men are long gone. Strong never had a close relationship with Patterson, so it is not like he lost a close friend. From what I have been told, Strong has a much better relationship with Perrin than the one he had with Patterson.
From the outside, it would have been better for Strong to enter next season with Powers and Patterson still around, but sources close to the football coach said he does not view it that way.
Instead, I have been told Strong and his staff believe next year is a do-or-die season. Nobody believes their job security would be safer if Patterson or Power were still in charge. They see Perrin’s two-year deal as a move that does not change what is expected of them in 2016, which is drastic improvement.
Sources close to Strong have said the coach understands if he does not win next season, it will likely be his last at Texas. It is just hard to know what the magic number needs to be next year. Clearly, anything less than eight wins will put the entire staff in jeopardy. Eight wins – depending on the opponents – might be enough. Obviously, nine-or-more wins will help Strong’s argument to remain at Texas.
Considering there is a sense of urgency in the football office, Longhorn fans should expect the new offensive coordinator to make whatever changes he deems necessary to win next season.
The new person in charge will be given the green light to hire his offensive staff. Considering the contracts of quarterbacks coach Shawn Watson, offensive line coach Joe Wickline and running backs coach Tommie Robinson expire after this season, those coaches will probably find work elsewhere. We have been told Wickline may have another job lined up, with North Carolina being his likely landing spot, but it seems like his tenure at Texas will end after Saturday’s game against Baylor.
Meanwhile, receiver coach Jay Norvell could be retained by the new offensive coordinator. If the new OC wants to hire a tight ends coach, Jeff Traylor will focus on being the team’s special teams coordinator and relinquish the additional duty.
The current staff could know its fate by Sunday. Strong is expected to move very fast with the hiring of his new offensive coordinator, and might have a staff update when he meets with the media on Monday.
The retention of Perrin is good for UT, but it does not change the mindset within Strong’s program. (Richardson)
on the Lincoln riley stuff...I wonder if ECU calls him.
http://wnct.com/2015/12/04/east-carolina-head-football-coach-ruffin-mcneill-relieved-of-duties/
http://wnct.com/2015/12/04/east-carolina-head-football-coach-ruffin-mcneill-relieved-of-duties/
Sounds like both cumbie and Hurtt are two coaches who could help strong get the program on track. Looks like Strong is at least targeting the right guys. Let's hope we can get the deal done.
Im curious as to why Texas is targeting Cumbie and not Meachum, Meachum appears to be being considered for other HC and OC jobs. I find it odd know can afford to money whip him if you chose. I expect us make a run at him assuming we stay with spread concepts.
I don't think we could get Meachum. I think he's at a point in his career that his next job will be a HC job. There is a chance that you can money whip him but it's not like TCU offers chump change.
That's what I figured the reason would be and it makes sense. We are hearing we will be paying as much as 1.5 for a new OC that will also be able to hire his offensive staff. My thought is if you guys or us were to hire a guy like Meachum then he could afford to be picky regarding potentially accepting a head coaching position because he will be paid so much. Having said all of that I looks like right now Mazzone from UCLA will be the first guy we speak with.
Always a risk out there. The list of guys I want to see us target are Mike Bloomgren, Sark, Mazzone, Meachum, Sterlin Gilbert, and Kendall Briles. I've heard we may even talk with Major but I'm not sure he's that high on the list. Our offensive staff needs a complete overhaul IMO.
Your whole school needs a complete overhaul (removal from the Great State of Texas)........sort of joking. Stumblin and Sark could party together at least.
Dear Santa, could I please have me some Sonny Crumbie for X-mas for my football team? Pretty please?
Traylor accompanied Strong to the meeting as well. I wonder if Traylor will be named Co-OC and Cumbie will get play calling duties. Or if Traylor was there to just try and recruit Cumbie bc they had a good relationship.
Are you really this stupid???
(I know, I know, you are really just trying to create something to slight Texas for....and are probably on Texfags starting a thread 'big bad tu can't even get the better OC from TCU)
You answered your own damn question. One guy is getting HC offers. And you only have an OC job to sell him on. So you sell the CoOC to come be his own OC. Hence a raise and a promotion. The other guy is looking for a promotion to HC. I already explained it, but you do the simple math. No HC job to offer = No offer.
But the other thing is that one guy is younger and offers more upside. Meanwhile the old guy might have peaked already.
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