Is this a joke? Are you really saying this with a straight face? You’re really saying that marijuana abuse had nothing to do with the state of mind of the Uvalde and Buffalo shooters?
This is the PERFECT form of GUN CONTROL
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We need leadership with the courage to go against the status quo when it comes to drug abuse. I agree it won’t happen overnight and will only be possible through incremental change.. We’ve lost the culture war and it’s going to require a ton of citizen leaders with big balls to change the culture. As you mentioned, it’s impossible with today’s culture. Academia, media, pop culture all are taking the lead in how attitudes are shaped regarding drugs. We need to go back to Nancy Reagan and her “Just say No” campaign against drug abuse. It sounds profoundly simple but it was effective because she had the force of the White House and many media outlets at the time. No way in hell anyone would do that today with all the toxic cancel culture pussies running around.
I say spray some bullets. The only way to clean this bullshit up. Shit britches go first.
You old heads are something else when it comes to marijuana. You refuse to acknowledge the years and years of research that shows all the good things it provides. Get with the times...
On the other alcohol is the third leading preventable cause of death but you mention nothing of it because it's legal.
I stand on what I said. Marijuana is a harmless drug. You can disagree with me all you want but the proof is in the pudding.
I often wonder if your mouth is as big when you're not behind a keyboard? I'd be willing to find out...
But here's the problem-- you reference Nancy Reagan, and as I child, I was right in the middle of that "Just say no" campaign. We had DEA come to our school with a briefcase full of drugs to give presentations about the evils of drugs. This was a Nancy and Ronald approved movement.
At the exact same time-- the Reagan CIA was pumping BILLIONS of drugs into (mostly) black neighborhoods, they were paying ex-con pilots to fly the sh!t from Columbia through Nicaragua while transporting guns to fight the war and trading for hostages in Iran. Arms, for drugs for hostages-- and LA, Miami, Louisiana and Texas were being FLOODED with drugs that the Reagan administration purposely turned a blind eye to, and endorsed.
I loved Ron and Nancy-- but he did some fvcked up shit. Marijuana DOES have medicinal benefits. I've seen it. My old neighbor had an 8 year old daughter with some form of epilepsy. Without THC liquid placed under her tongue everyday, the little girl would lapse into these debilitating seizures. I saw it happen twice. Freaked me the fvck out. But WITH her daily dose of THC, that little girl does handsprings and plays all day-- like a kid should.
There's good in that dark cloud you see, I promise you.
Look, I can’t stand pot heads, it’s always like having a conversation with a retarded child, but to blame the weed in these cases is no different than blaming the gun, IMO.
Any normal person getting high is not out to shoot somebody. These were ****ed up individuals to begin with.
Any normal person getting high is not out to shoot somebody. These were ****ed up individuals to begin with.
Totally agree the individual is responsible for his own actions. Not blaming the weed. Blaming the culture for glorifying its use as if it is fun and harmless. Like using a gun, you need to be responsible and know what you’re doing so that you don’t shoot yourself or someone else. Handling a gun needs to be done with respect, maturity and a high level of seriousness. In other words, you need to be a responsible person.
Not denying the medical benefits of THC either but that’s only when it’s prescribed by a medical professional. I’m talking about elicit and illegal drugs including high potency marijuana that will literally alter your state of mind. It’s not harmless as our culture tells us. Would you want your airline pilot to be high on marijuana while you’re his passenger? How about your heart surgeon?
Same applies for alcohol abuse but the difference is that abusing alcohol is not glorified by our culture. Drugs, including MJ, are viewed much differently.
My father was the assistant public health officer of Dallas County for a few years. Which meant jail doctor. He pulled me aside one day in high school. " Now look son, all drugs are bad. But the worst is alcohol. Junkies can go back to their old jobs once dried out. Drunks are permanently brain damaged. Alcohol withdrawal is very dangerous, life threatening." Junkies were cold turkeyed. Drunks had to be tapered on chloral hydrate.
Is this you Dad?? Pot heads you say? Well I guess I’ll be your huckleberry. Alas, I am a pot head. As is my wife of 33 years. In fact I just finished a 5 mile run after smoking a bowl. Calms my anxiety and makes the music that much more meaningful. Have great thoughts and ideas for business and, contrary to your stereotype, many a daily professional conversation related to my business either in person, web call or other, yes, all while enjoying a nice buzz. I’m living proof your stereotype can’t be further from the truth. The pot heads to which you refer are just dumbasses, and usually has nothing to do with the pot. Cheech and Chong are still morons either high or not. But for me the wacky weed has been a savior and sure beats the hell out of anxiety meds (i.e., celexa and the ilk) which are substantially worse for your body. For my wife, we are both in our 50’s, it helps with all her woman stuff, especially at this age. And as a nice by product the sex is still good. A good smoke makes you horny and is often prescribed by marriage counselors among other psycho and neurological ailments. Pot heads unite together!!
The stereotype that weed makes you lazy couldn’t be further from the truth. Lazy people were lazy before they picked up the weed. I’d take a pothead any day over an alcoholic.
I have been smoking since I was 15. I turned 40 a week ago. I have a successful company I have had for 15 years now. I’m set up to retire by the time I’m 50. The problem with these people is not the marijuana.
Good for you to be a good example of a responsible adult who partakes in weed just as there are mostly responsible people who drink alcohol. Go for it all you want. As long as you're not putting other people in danger, you're free to enjoy. But whenever someone partakes and it leads to consciousness-altering mindsets that harms or kills others, I have no use for you. That's true whether your high on weed or drunk on alcohol. People who harm others resulting from excessive drug use deserve the harshest penalties available under the law. Again, the Uvalde shooter was high on weed as was the Buffalo shooter and just about every other mass shooter. I'll never be convinced they would've acted out on their deeds without the drugs being available to them and being glorified by the culture around them.
There are successful smokers as well as drinkers. Heck, your potus needs a double dose of epinephrine to function.
Not sure why drinkers keep getting brought up, but yeah I don’t care for them, either.
There are also successful people that vote democrat. So there’s that.
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What about the drunk driver that hit and killed my niece and her 3 kids? I wasn't out clamoring to ban alcohol because some idiot made a bad decision. And there's absolutely zero evidence that shows that every mass shooter was high on marijuana. Turn off the Fox News for a few days and step back down to reality. I'm about as far right wing as you can go but these false narratives being poured out but some of these media outlets is just crazy at this point.
Blaming the drug is almost as bad as blaming the gun for murders.
You are completely missing the point. I never said I wanted to ban marijuana. You’re being defensive. My point is that our culture has glorified drug use as almost some kind of virtuous activity when it’s really not. It should be taken seriously if someone is abusing drugs because it leads to bad behavior and they individually should be punished harshly and condemned by the general public. Responsible adults who are not abusing their recreational drug use have nothing to do with my point of view.
I'm not missing the point. You're blaming the marijuana on the reason as to why the kid did what he did.
If you want to blame something you should be blaming the lack of parenting and guidance the kid had in his life.
no...id want both of them sober...at their jobs...not sure how this applies. Pot isn't a problem, never has been, never will be.
Do you believe we have a cocaine problem? Fentanyl problem? Or other problems with opioids?
You seem to agree that alcohol is a problem if it's abused. Why not the same for MJ? I'm trying to understand how you distinguish the two. It's apparent that you're just rooting for the MJ team instead of thinking about this objectively. You really believe that MJ has no affect on people's behavior, good or bad?
So a drunk driver kills someone after a night of partying but, by your logic, his actions have nothing to do with the alcohol.
Anybody fired one of these new puppies?
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The more I read about the 5.7-- the more I think I want one. It's a hot sh!t round that can knock holes through level 3-- and it seems like it's the perfect round for Mozambique errrrr I mean "failure drill" situations.
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The more I read about the 5.7-- the more I think I want one. It's a hot sh!t round that can knock holes through level 3-- and it seems like it's the perfect round for Mozambique errrrr I mean "failure drill" situations.
Anybody fired one of these new puppies?
FN Five-seveN® MRD BLK | FN® Firearms
The FN Five-seveN® FDE pistol is available for commercial, law enforcement, and military. Read all product features and technical specs here.
The more I read about the 5.7-- the more I think I want one. It's a hot sh!t round that can knock holes through level 3-- and it seems like it's the perfect round for Mozambique errrrr I mean "failure drill" situations.
I'm saving up my pennies right now and allowance
I thought these were outlawed in the US for public sale. Haven't put my hands on one yet but am very interested.Anybody fired one of these new puppies?
FN Five-seveN® MRD BLK | FN® Firearms
The FN Five-seveN® FDE pistol is available for commercial, law enforcement, and military. Read all product features and technical specs here.
The more I read about the 5.7-- the more I think I want one. It's a hot sh!t round that can knock holes through level 3-- and it seems like it's the perfect round for Mozambique errrrr I mean "failure drill" situations.
Of all the people on here that I thought for CERTAIN had toyed with one of these, I figured it would be you.
The freaking GIGN. GROM, the Saudis, Italian airborne SF, the Belgians-- even our Secret Service roll with this. I've fired a pdw that was a 5.7- no recoil at all. But I'm getting a serious chub about one of these.
Damn dude-- all you got to carry were boring ass 9's and 45's? Ya-- I know-- if it comes down to using your pistol-- you're pretty much screwed. But I thought for sure you'd have gotten to augment a group that toted these.
Lol, dude you're reading too much into what I typed. I've shot the original FN five-seven and really hated it. That clunker would wear out your index and have you shooting 5' off sillouet before clearing the first mag. I do believe they lightened the trigger pull substantially in subsequent models though.
There's been a handful of new variants and mods since early 2000's and this MRD just came out this year.
Hell, I believe that dickhead at Ft Hood used the USG model in his rampage.
Ahhhhhhhh..... ok.
My bad.
Yes, he used the Herstal and, sadly yet statistically, every shot he scored that was torso ended up being a fatality. His appendage landing rounds did not. But for a sidearm to score a perfect 12/12 with CM hits is pretty, devastating. This was a small factor in me deciding to look into purchasing the next gen of these pistols. As I said a while back, I have friend who is developing a hot sh!t pdw that "sorta" mirrors the Honeybadger in that it comes with the option of an integrated hush puppy, or without-- and is an SBR with and extendable 2 bar stock that can go from 3 to 6 inches. It also mirrors the LWRC PDW-- like if the two of them got together and had a baby.
But yes-- the trigger on the new FN and the new Ruger are supposed to be MUCH more user friendly.
And also---- I want one....
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Well if you do get one, lemme know your honest opinion if it's now worth the investment.
They aren't cheap to buy or shoot so maybe one of the ranges will carry it. Looks like ordering a box of 500 will set you back $0.65-$1/rd.
