To everyone calling for Herman's Head...

[4MNChampsHorn]

Armanti couldn't make a play on the ball how many times? Leonard is a possession receiver only, same for Collin. They have a 250 lb. running back that can't use his strength because they have players up front that struggle to block. The other 2 RB are freshmen. Mapps has been struggling with injury. They have a freshmen TE. Buechele holds the ball too long.

What in the hell are they going to scheme in a week of practice against a top 10 defense, LOL.

Who is the game changer on O they can set up with match ups to change the field?

Well chit, I should have avoided wasting my time on this game since it was so obvious that we were out manned from the start. Are there any remaining games on the schedule that our coaches/players get the same pass? If so, I will avoid wasting my time on those since the expectation and acceptance is a loss.

 

[weevilcatch]

1994 grad of UT. I own 2 businesses and would put my balance sheet up against yours anytime. The fact that I own businesses puts me in a unique position of recognizing poor ROI. UT has poor ROI.

Oh cool. I'll bet you made money from day 1 right? You're part of the .00001% that starts a business and needs no time to build up equity, product, demand and clientele right? Needed no time to implement your vision, didn't need a 5 year plan, had perfect employees from day 1, didn't have to fire any of them ever because they did exactly what you said, performed at the level you expected, etc.

That's pretty awesome that you became #1 in your market from day 1!!! Well done pal

 

[weevilcatch]

Well chit, I should have avoided wasting my time on this game since it was so obvious that we were out manned from the start. Are there any remaining games on the schedule that our coaches/players get the same pass? If so, I will avoid wasting my time on those since the expectation and acceptance is a loss.

Woah bud, I think you misinterpreted my post.

I took TCU -6.5 because it was obvious to me Texas would struggle to score. Told my wife after the first TCU drive I'm not worried about the D, TCU got 30 yards I penalties and were a few inches fro a trick play being intercepted. Said it'd be 27-10 or something like that. Just the way I felt.

Not a single team left on the schedule has a D the caliber of TCU. That's by far the best D Texas will face. 3-0 is doable, 2-1 should be expected. 1-2 would be a disappointment.

But the question still remains. Who at WR is a game changer?

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

Woah bud, I think you misinterpreted my post.

I took TCU -6.5 because it was obvious to me Texas would struggle to score. Told my wife after the first TCU drive I'm not worried about the D, TCU got 30 yards I penalties and were a few inches fro a trick play being intercepted. Said it'd be 27-10 or something like that. Just the way I felt.

Not a single team left on the schedule has a D the caliber of TCU. That's by far the best D Texas will face. 3-0 is doable, 2-1 should be expected. 1-2 would be a disappointment.

But the question still remains. Who at WR is a game changer?

Lil Jordan & Johnson are both game changers at WR.

 

[outhereincali]

Woah bud, I think you misinterpreted my post.

I took TCU -6.5 because it was obvious to me Texas would struggle to score. Told my wife after the first TCU drive I'm not worried about the D, TCU got 30 yards I penalties and were a few inches fro a trick play being intercepted. Said it'd be 27-10 or something like that. Just the way I felt.

Not a single team left on the schedule has a D the caliber of TCU. That's by far the best D Texas will face. 3-0 is doable, 2-1 should be expected. 1-2 would be a disappointment.

But the question still remains. Who at WR is a game changer?

How can we expect to know when we have an ol that can't block? Shane had no time to throw the ball. I mean all the knockdowns, sacks, hurries, towards the end of the game you could see him hobbling and for good reason. I mean a bad ol against a good defense. Shane never had a chance.

 

[weevilcatch]

Lil Jordan & Johnson are both game changers at WR.

Good players, but I don't see either one as a guy that can't be shut down. I don't see either one as a guy that can take a hitch to the house, or split the safeties on a quick slant to the house.

Texas doesn't have that from what I see. Mapps is close but he's been hurt. Duvernay is fast, Burt is fast but they don't seem to be complete receivers.

Texas doesn't have a guy that other DCs have to key on. They roll coverage toward CJ and lock up everyone else.

 

[madcow12]

Rumor floating around is Beck has been demoted from OC. When i come across a solid link I will post.

 

[weevilcatch]

Rumor floating around is Beck has been demoted from OC. When i come across a solid link I will post.

Interesting

 

[LonghornMM]

Rumor floating around is Beck has been demoted from OC. When i come across a solid link I will post.

Lets hope this is true!

 

[DHHorn]

How can we expect to know when we have an ol that can't block? Shane had no time to throw the ball. I mean all the knockdowns, sacks, hurries, towards the end of the game you could see him hobbling and for good reason. I mean a bad ol against a good defense. Shane never had a chance.

Every time we got to third down and it was an obvious passing down (which for us is anything over 3 yards) Shane had no time at all. The o line could not block when TCU was coming full speed ahead. The think about the play calling I didn't like was that we never tried to scheme for that. I think we did one screen but that was called back for that BS penalty.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Rumor floating around is Beck has been demoted from OC. When i come across a solid link I will post.

In favor of who? Anyone other than Tom Herman is not solving the problem.(at least for an i season move)

 

[ryan_sublett]

The Texas offense in 2016 scored 31.9 points/game (42th in the nation).

The Texas offense in 2017 is scoring 28.6 points/game (55th in the nation). We have scored 18.3 points/game over the past 3 games (Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU).

And that 28 points a gsme is inflated by the 56-0 beat down of SJSU. Realistically it’s 23-24 points a game.

 

[DHHorn]

In favor of who? Anyone other than Tom Herman is not solving the problem.(at least for an i season move)

I thought Beck was the problem. Now that he is rumored to get demoted you claim no one can solve the problem. I get the feeling you're going to complain no matter what.

 

[DHHorn]

And that 28 points a gsme is inflated by the 56-0 beat down of SJSU. Realistically it’s 23-24 points a game.

Everyone's average is inflated by bad teams. What's your point.

 

[ryan_sublett]

I thought Beck was the problem. Now that he is rumored to get demoted you claim no one can solve the problem. I get the feeling you're going to complain no matter what.

Beck is the problem. My point is there is no one on staff that makes sense to replace him other than Tom Herman. If Tom Herman is demoting Beck and still insisting on not calling the plays it won’t do any good.
I mean look at the offensive staff. Of the options Drew Mehringer would be an interesting upside hire but Hermsn would have to be more inovolved and kind of guide him along.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Everyone's average is inflated by bad teams. What's your point.

Just that the offense is worse than even their average says. And their average is bad. I mean we couldn’t even get two touch downs off of a team that just gave up 65 to OU.

 

[easttx903]

the only problem i have with herman is he hasnt come out and said the coaches need to get better. our offensive playcalling right now is worse than the bad days of greg davis.

he needs to nip that in the butt right now. im not saying that he needs to fire beck, but they need to sit down and have a reality check with each other. they cant do what they want to do on offense what they want to do because they dont have that type of personnel for it. even before the offensive line injuries.

 

[Bass Elder]

the only problem i have with herman is he hasnt come out and said the coaches need to get better. our offensive playcalling right now is worse than the bad days of greg davis.

he needs to nip that in the butt right now. im not saying that he needs to fire beck, but they need to sit down and have a reality check with each other. they cant do what they want to do on offense what they want to do because they dont have that type of personnel for it. even before the offensive line injuries.

easttx.. do you not think for one split second that Herman hasn't 'sit down and had a reality check with his coaches?
Sure he has, since day one_ he does not owe it to the general public to discuss what goes on behind closed doors with his coaching staff.
You do not publicly humiliate your staff or your family or your friends...you hit rough spots in the road and get them taken care of--Herman will do this, he will do whatever it takes to turn the Texas Longhorns around.

 

[DHHorn]

Beck is the problem. My point is there is no one on staff that makes sense to replace him other than Tom Herman. If Tom Herman is demoting Beck and still insisting on not calling the plays it won’t do any good.
I mean look at the offensive staff. Of the options Drew Mehringer would be an interesting upside hire but Hermsn would have to be more inovolved and kind of guide him along.

This season is lost as far as having a decent record, so it doesn't matter much for this year. If it's true that Beck is getting demoted then that means Herman is not going to wait around until the end of the season to openly start looking for a replacement. He doesn't have to do it in secret, although I'm sure it will not be revealed to the public. The staff and players will know as well as whoever he's interviewing. Find a replacement as fast as he can so he can let recruits know and resolve any concerns. Losing Beck might affect some recruits he's been the lead recruiter on.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

...he does not owe it to the general public to discuss what goes on behind closed doors with his coaching staff.
You do not publicly humiliate your staff or your family or your friends...you hit rough spots in the road and get them taken care of--Herman will do this, he will do whatever it takes to turn the Texas Longhorns around.

I agree with this.

 

[ryan_sublett]

No joke. If Herman doesn’t want to call plays, and isn’t hell bent on running “his system” he ought to call Sumlin tonight and offer him the job. He started as an OC under briles at Houston, and for all Sumlin’s issues as a HC offense wasn’t one. I don’t know if he’d take it or weather Herman would offer, but if Herman wants to be the CEO coach type he needs an OC like that.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

Yea...we are in the 6th or 7th year???

How many more do you think it will take if we fire a coach after his 1st year? How many elite coaches do you think we'll get after firing a coach after 1 year? You honestly think a Saban would leave Alabama for Texas? Would you leave a place that is giving you everything for a place that won't even support their team and coach through the 1st year? DO NOT LUMP Strong's record with Herman. Because he went 5-7 doesn't mean Herman should be apart of that as well.

 

[Longyac]

Saban and Stoops are the standard.

Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama including a loss to UL Monroe.

 

[TexExSpur]

Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama including a loss to UL Monroe.

Stoops didn't fair much better

 

[TexExSpur]

Every team Texas has lost to at this point were better football teams from top to bottom. If you can't win in the trenches, you don't win any of those games.

Maryland was a fluke, the Texas D since allowing 51 in that game has played good football.

51
0
27
7
34
29
13
7
24

 

[Longyac]

Stoops didn't fair much better

7-5

Also, I doubt either faced 6 top 25 teams on their schedule.

 

[TexExSpur]

7-5

One game better and lost the bowl game.

 

[TexExSpur]

Herman just hit the nail on the head in his presser.

Tom Herman with some real talk: "The biggest thing we can do as a staff is mask the deficiencies as a staff as best we can."

This is your OL woes, people!

Texas averaging 2.9 yards per rush vs Power 5 teams, third worst among Power 5 teams.

 

[bubba2023]

I'm not in the fire Herman mode, but I am willing to play the field on pretty much any coach if the bar for failure is Stoops or Saban. Both of those are all timers with Saban being the GOAT. Might be beneficial to compare our coaches to careers they have a chance of replicating.

 

[weevilcatch]

I'm sure the OL is trying the best they can, but...

Cuney is a career backup, or backup to the backup
Kerstetter badly needed a RS
McMillon would be a very solid back for both G spots with playing time
Nicholson is a statue
Vahe is a starter for a conference championship type team, but I'm not even sure if he is an NFL FA sign.

What exactly can you expect with a group that (1) doesn't have NFL talent and (2) hasn't played very many games together?

I'm sure they're great young men that are doing the best they can...it just sucks that best isn't good enough.

 

[madcow12]

Still no word on what's going on with the OC,

Will Baizer @WillBaizer


Tom Herman says he doesn’t want Mehringer at play caller right now.

12:12 PM - Nov 6, 2017

 

[LongfellowDrew]

Unbelievable.

"As Herman pointed out, fifth-year senior B-back Naashon Hughes has seen 33 assistant coaches work at Texas since he enrolled in 2013. In every season, there has been a different offensive coordinator. Former head coach Charlie Strong change his offensive play caller and his defensive play caller in consecutive seasons."

“I think continuity and consistency with your staff is really, really important in college football,” Herman said. “It is one of the most underrated reasons for success in my opinion, and it's why now as a head coach -- now I see why all the other head coaches that I worked for were always so protective of their assistant coaches and didn't want them to leave because they understood the value in continuity.”

 

[ryan_sublett]

I get what he’s saying but just because there have been a lot of staff changes in the past isn’t a reason not to make any. I think stability is important to, but with the right people. He talks about how many Mack had, but look at the guys Mack had on his staffs. A lot left because they became HC’s. He didn’t keep them just to keep everyone. They were good at their jobs for the most part.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

Unbelievable.

"As Herman pointed out, fifth-year senior B-back Naashon Hughes has seen 33 assistant coaches work at Texas since he enrolled in 2013. In every season, there has been a different offensive coordinator. Former head coach Charlie Strong change his offensive play caller and his defensive play caller in consecutive seasons."

“I think continuity and consistency with your staff is really, really important in college football,” Herman said. “It is one of the most underrated reasons for success in my opinion, and it's why now as a head coach -- now I see why all the other head coaches that I worked for were always so protective of their assistant coaches and didn't want them to leave because they understood the value in continuity.”

We don’t need to change coaches if we are willing to “mask deficiencies” by playing to our players strengths.

 

[madcow12]

Herman won't last 3 years.

https://247sports.com/college/texas...not-anticipate-making-staff-changes-110064099