I don’t know that Herman was the best we could get. He was the guy a lot of people wanted not necsssrly the best we could get.
Tom Herman or pj Fleck? I might lean Fleck honestly
To everyone calling for Herman's Head...
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Tom Herman or pj Fleck? I might lean Fleck honestly
I agree with the OP. People calling for Herman's firing now are clueless. Give him time. Let him recruit, which he is doing very well now. If Texas had an above average OL and an above average QB, the Horns would maybe have one loss right now. I have full confidence that Herman will bring his guys in here and get the job done. He is a serious upgrade over Strong.
It may be silly to call for his head right now but calling him a “serious upgrade over Strong” at this point is equally silly. Results wise it’s been about the same. Are the games closer? Sure but L’s are L’s. Herman may ultimately be better than Strong, but with year 1 coming to a close Herman is in the same boat Strong was in. It’s time to aknowlage that. Herman may do what Strong didn’t and show improvement but the jury is out right now.
Great might be an overstatement but he was successful probably overstayed his welcome by 2-3 years but that happens a lot in college football
Why is everyone so surprised by this game. We all knew we have no offense and TCU's defense is good. Playing them on the road on top of it. People are acting like this was some big let down. TCU is a better team, and we never got the break we needed.
I expected to see our coaches scheme better on offense and apply the talent better. I’m not surprised we lost. I’m surprised our offense was as bad as I’ve seen it all season and we only have 3 games remaining. I’m expecting improvement on that side of the ball. Our offense isn’t competitive most of the time.
Ya, I agree but for some reason and no excuses to be allowed we are officially in the cfb wilderness with penisee and florida. We are closer to Tennessee. I shouldn't insult florida. They will pull the plug after 1.5 to 2 years of incompetence.
The Texas offense in 2016 scored 31.9 points/game (42th in the nation).
The Texas offense in 2017 is scoring 28.6 points/game (55th in the nation). We have scored 18.3 points/game over the past 3 games (Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU).
The Texas offense in 2017 is scoring 28.6 points/game (55th in the nation). We have scored 18.3 points/game over the past 3 games (Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU).
That hasn't gotten Florida anywhere has it. A new coach coming in and turning it around right off the bat is coincidence of being in the right place at the right time. Then most of the time that coach regresses the following years (Sumlin, etc.). The good coaches are the ones who build a team and make it last. We don't know if Herman will do that but he should have the time to try.
Personally I hate losing just like every TEXAS fan but the Defense is 10 times better than last years......at least they have kept TEXAS competitive in most games this year.......and we didn't lose to freaking Kansas. I'm willing to take a mulligan on this year and hopefully see how this team can perform with a healthy (i will take "close" to healthy) O-line. If you can't see TEXAS trending in the right direction then something is wrong with you. TEXAS will be back to being TEXAS before you know it.
That defensive progress is about to go to the nfl. Good coaches make underclassmen play like seniors. Average coaches win with seniors.
I'm on the fence but my experience guided by reason is telling me, "abort, abort, abort". The staff hiring on o was all I needed to see.
Clob, John Harbaugh may be available soon.
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block'em.. they are not worth wasting your time on.
great 'original post', could not agree more.
It's worth noting that winning is a habit, and losing is a habit. I thought long and hard after the OU and OSU games.
During the 4th quarter I caught myself thinking "How is this going to go wrong?" "I sure hope we don't ________." If I am a fan thinking that, then you have to believe deep down in their core, the players sometimes think it too.
As I stated before, we are trying to shift a mindset of hoping to win to expecting to win. That is not easy when only 4 of your players have been part of a winning season at the school. And keep in mind that winning season was one where we went 8-5 and ran out the coach.
Winning and success breeds confidence which breeds playing faster. Watch how fast our defense plays compared to our offense. Watch a simple play like a bubble screen. That play works for teams playing with confidence because the ball is out fast, the receiver is moving fast when he catches it, and the blocks on the perimeter are at full speed (go back and watch film of Colt throwing it to Shipley and Cosby). When we run these things now, it is slow. That is due to a lack of confidence and uncertainty (ie playing slow).
And before we anoint Orlando as God and savior, and Beck as an idiot, I ask that you take a look at the injuries on both sides of the ball.
Also, don't take this as post of support for Beck. I have questioned his play-calling choice like anyone has. However, the playbook looks a lot better when you have healthier depth.
Sorry...I know I rambled a little there...
During the 4th quarter I caught myself thinking "How is this going to go wrong?" "I sure hope we don't ________." If I am a fan thinking that, then you have to believe deep down in their core, the players sometimes think it too.
As I stated before, we are trying to shift a mindset of hoping to win to expecting to win. That is not easy when only 4 of your players have been part of a winning season at the school. And keep in mind that winning season was one where we went 8-5 and ran out the coach.
Winning and success breeds confidence which breeds playing faster. Watch how fast our defense plays compared to our offense. Watch a simple play like a bubble screen. That play works for teams playing with confidence because the ball is out fast, the receiver is moving fast when he catches it, and the blocks on the perimeter are at full speed (go back and watch film of Colt throwing it to Shipley and Cosby). When we run these things now, it is slow. That is due to a lack of confidence and uncertainty (ie playing slow).
And before we anoint Orlando as God and savior, and Beck as an idiot, I ask that you take a look at the injuries on both sides of the ball.
Also, don't take this as post of support for Beck. I have questioned his play-calling choice like anyone has. However, the playbook looks a lot better when you have healthier depth.
Sorry...I know I rambled a little there...
Tired of his excuses..... The offense is awful and Texas has some real talent at WR. He beat Tech and get to a bowl. How was Texas ranked in top 25 in preseason??
It really doesn't matter what any of us think. If Herman goes out there next year and pulls another 5 and 7 or 6 - 6 then the boosters will pull the hook, especially if the team looks exactly like it does this year. If you don't think that's true then look what happened to Florida this year.
Very true. Similar situation to Flordia to if a new AD comes in next year. Is that still the plan?
And there are 100s of examples to the contrary. Using outliers to support your argument is short sighted. You're being obtuse just for the sake of getting replies. You should probably calm the **** down.
Sure Orlando is doing great. Did he lose a major award winner? Did he lose the beat DL Texas has had since '05?
Comparing the talent on O and D to prove a point is also short sighted. Give it a rest.
Armanti couldn't make a play on the ball how many times? Leonard is a possession receiver only, same for Collin. They have a 250 lb. running back that can't use his strength because they have players up front that struggle to block. The other 2 RB are freshmen. Mapps has been struggling with injury. They have a freshmen TE. Buechele holds the ball too long.
What in the hell are they going to scheme in a week of practice against a top 10 defense, LOL.
Who is the game changer on O they can set up with match ups to change the field?
You'll have to find me a team that is winning with the inexperience up front that Texas has.
Either find some and post them on here or stfu already.
1/100 times will you find a coach that beats good teams with experience while having underclassmen to move the football.
I think that some people like to be critical just to be able to say “I told you so”, if it doesn’t get turned around.
It’s like making the observation that you don’t see improvement in the Oline over the course of the season.
Our Starting Oline last night was made up of 2-3 star players that started the season as 2nd and 3rd string minus Vahe and we played against one of the greatest defensive minds in college football.
I know that their are people on here that expect Texas to win every game 50-0, but they live in FantasyLand.
