Vegas has ND -10 over UT at home.

[TexExSpur]

I would be interested to hear what your definition of "true starters" is, as I think you could defend several definitions.

Do you just count people who started all 13 games in 2015?
Is 10+ games in 2015 enough?
Is having any full season as a starter good enough? (2014, 2013, etc.)
Is having 10+ starts at all good enough, regardless of season?
Is it even about previous starts? Is it instead about who produced the most at a position?

Is it just whatever an ESPN article defines it as?

I'm interested to hear how you define/value it

It won't sway your view. Texas lost 7 starters from 2015. The 2014 season going back are irrelivent to me if a player was displaced by play or injury...you don't know what you're getting back at the position without a doubt should they reassert themselves into a starting role.

 

[TexExSpur]

Wouldn't that make your assumptions mirror that of whoever happens to be writing whatever article your citing?
(scout, analyst, intern, or otherwise)

No jackass, I'm giving you reading material I found entertaining. You can carry on with your Irish sunshine pumping, we all know there is gold at the end of the rainbow.

 

[TheDecker]

Dude, what they did after the first game has nothing to do with the first game. Period.

They demoted the freaking play caller and changed QB's and went through trial and error to find anything that worked...

That's completely ridiculous.
It's the same head coach, same roster, etc.

Beyond that, does what you did in the 1st half have anything to do with the 2nd half?

Because before you were down big in the 2nd half, you ran the ball far more than you passed it......but after you were down big in the 2nd half, you passed more than you ran

You abandoned the run when you were down big in the 2nd half

It's a fact
It's not up for debate

 

[Longyac]

I just think some ND fans are passionate but like to beat the dead horse. Even if they are right, they lose the point in the debate by not letting it go.

Decker reminds us of a few special mentally ill and obsessive rival fans. What was the name of the Sooner that hate Texas more than he loved the Sooner? Bull......something????

 

[TexExSpur]

That's completely ridiculous.
It's the same head coach, same roster, etc.

Beyond that, does what you did in the 1st half have anything to do with the 2nd half?

Because before you were down big in the 2nd half, you ran the ball far more than you passed it......but after you were down big in the 2nd half, you passed more than you ran

You abandoned the run when you were down big in the 2nd half

It's a fact
It's not up for debate

They chunked the rock 4 more plays in the second half than they ran it per your numbers, sunshine. They were horrible in South Bend, Ames and Fort Worth.

 

[TheDecker]

It won't sway your view. Texas lost 7 starters from 2015. The 2014 season going back are irrelivent to me if a player was displaced by play or injury...you don't know what you're getting back at the position without a doubt should they reassert themselves into a starting role.

So you define it as starters from 2015, and nothing else.

That's fine

I think that's foolish, as it presents the possibly to ignore multiple years of previous starts from extremely talented players (as you're doing with guys like Jarron Jones and Tarean Folston)
As far the "you don't know what you're getting without a doubt", that's true of every single player...returning starter or no....especially if they weren't true All-Conference or All-American level players the previous year (meaning you're counting on improvement, that you can't verify)

But again, as long as you define what you're talking about, acknowledge it's limitations, and are consistent about it........it's fine

 

[TheDecker]

No jackass, I'm giving you reading material I found entertaining. You can carry on with you're Irish sunshine pumping, we all know there is gold at the end of the rainbow.

Dear God

You don't handle questions well, do you??

 

[TexExSpur]

Dear God

You don't handle questions well, do you??

Your comment insinuating the idea of being a puppet? Or, not having my own perspective? Nah, I'm sure that's how you meant to come across, although...this is the internet. I'm not on nor have I ever lurked a Domer board. It's like you're looking for reassurance or something. Domers win brah.

 

[TheDecker]

Decker reminds us of a few special mentally ill and obsessive rival fans. What was the name of the Sooner that hate Texas more than he loved the Sooner? Bull......something????

I'm seriously amused by how much an informed and fact based football discussion perturbs your fan base

I honestly don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it (or quite as pathetic) before

You guys respond to basic question and presentation of facts with name calling and anger....and you think other people trolling

It's been fun to witness

 

[LonghornMM]

I'm all for a good debate, but this thread is just talking in circles over and over and over, and Decker can't see beyond his gold tinted helmet that is covering his eyes. Jeez, let's move on...