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When your coach sux so bad that you look at Sarkisian

Where did this info come from?

Edit: I found it. Apparently, we are going full payroll. The Bama model it is!
 
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I'd rather take a shot at a coordinator from the NFL or a guy like Whittingham from Utah or Campbell from ISU. Hell throw a 5 million dollar contract at Brian Kelly, he has done a good job at Notre Dame, and I'd love to stick it to their lame asses.
 
If Sark has his addition issues in the past he’s a damn good coach. He’s probably still be at USC if not for the outside problems
 
Did I miss something? I thought we were stuck with the current assclown for another year.
 
Got to go with all night games. Sark after dark is legend.
 
Imagine how awesome Sark would be on 6th street. Talk about naked bongo playing, he would put drunk Matthew Mcconaugheyto shame.
 
The guy had a problem and from all accounts has atoned and now adding value at a program that ONLY accepts people who add value to the process. YET - we judge the guy like we are perfect. I totally respect the fact he has risen above the idiots throwing shade his way. It can’t be easy. I like him and respect him.
 
The guy had a problem and from all accounts has atoned and now adding value at a program that ONLY accepts people who add value to the process. YET - we judge the guy like we are perfect. I totally respect the fact he has risen above the idiots throwing shade his way. It can’t be easy. I like him and respect him.
Agree. Should be considered.
 
The guy had a problem and from all accounts has atoned and now adding value at a program that ONLY accepts people who add value to the process. YET - we judge the guy like we are perfect. I totally respect the fact he has risen above the idiots throwing shade his way. It can’t be easy. I like him and respect him.
I'm glad he's on the wagon as well. But stress can cause people with inhibition/addiction problems to do irrational things.

Would you hire a recovered meth addict? How about a sex addict who cheats on his wife constantly? Where do you draw the line?
 
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Glad Sark has his demons under control. But..... I don't understand why everyone is so impressed with what he has done at Alabama the last 2 years. Who couldn't coach these guys?
Jeudy 1st rounder 2020
Ruggs 1st rounder 2020
Tua 1st rounder 2020
Willis 1st rounder 2020

2021 possible 1st rounders
Alex Leatherwood
Naji Harris
Jaylon Waddle
Devonta Smith
Duente Brown
Mack Jones

Any fool could coach these guys. Sark is a good coordinator, but he won't have this talent anywhere else. It is ridiculous & they have plenty of other NFL guys who won't go in the first round. Oh, and the guys listed above are all offensive players.
 
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Glad Sark has his demons under control. But..... I don't understand why everyone is so impressed with what he has done at Alabama the last 2 years. Who couldn't coach these guys?
Jeudy 1st rounder 2020
Ruggs 1st rounder 2020
Tua 1st rounder 2020
Willis 1st rounder 2020

2021 possible 1st rounders
Alex Leatherwood
Naji Harris
Jaylon Waddle
Devonta Smith
Duente Brown
Mack Jones

Any fool could coach these guys. Sark is a good coordinator, but he won't have this talent anywhere else. It is ridiculous & they have plenty of other NFL guys who won't go in the first round. Oh, and the guys listed above are all offensive players.
I agree, but I wouldn’t hire him because he has a decent body of work for which to evaluate at Washington and USC. Neither is impressive, just average. I think anybody that works under Saban is assumed to now understand his system. Saban basically revived Kiffin’s career. Talk about a worthless recycled coach, that is Kiffin.
 
I agree, but I wouldn’t hire him because he has a decent body of work for which to evaluate at Washington and USC. Neither is impressive, just average. I think anybody that works under Saban is assumed to now understand his system. Saban basically revived Kiffin’s career. Talk about a worthless recycled coach, that is Kiffin.

Saban is the Belichick of college football, with Smart as the exception.
 
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Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.

With the exception of Mack Brown that is the story of every coach TX has hired since Darrell Royal retired. You don't like Tom Herman? Fire him and replace him with Steve Sarkisian? I guarantee we will take giant steps backward.

Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.
 
Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.

With the exception of Mack Brown that is the story of every coach TX has hired since Darrell Royal retired. You don't like Tom Herman? Fire him and replace him with Steve Sarkisian? I guarantee we will take giant steps backward.

Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.

I have no idea, but judging by how CDC has hired women’s basketball and softball, he isn’t a gambler. He seems to like a proven resume. This is probably why he hung on to Herman. Anybody on the table would be a lateral hire compared to TH.
 
Well let's take a quick look at Belichick last coordinator that took a head coaching job Matt Patricia (13-29-1) fired after Thanksgiving this year.
That was my point Robo...both have great jobs individually coaching, but for the great majority, their assistant coaches have not done well.
 
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I'm glad he's on the wagon as well. But stress can cause people with inhibition/addiction problems to do irrational things.

Would you hire a recovered meth addict? How about a sex addict who cheats on his wife constantly? Where do you draw the line?

So there is no stress at Alabama? Saban doesn’t push his coaches and demand excellence. Press covering Alabama didn’t asked him stressful questions about past issues? Ive seen Saban chewing out his coaches when he is up by 40 points.

As far as where do I draw the line - as always its with the individual and do not group every person who has had problems with everyone on the planet who may have had something remotely similar. All I know about Sark is a few public incidents, that does not give me the right or insight to judge him. And I do have people who are recovering alcoholics working for me and they are doing TERRIFIC and I support them all i can.
 
It's one thing to have a recoveing addict working for you, it's another to have them running the show. I would never consider Sark. Too many guys with proven track record available. Whittingham, Campbell, maybe a Brian Kelly, or someone from the NFL.
 
So there is no stress at Alabama? Saban doesn’t push his coaches and demand excellence. Press covering Alabama didn’t asked him stressful questions about past issues? Ive seen Saban chewing out his coaches when he is up by 40 points.

As far as where do I draw the line - as always its with the individual and do not group every person who has had problems with everyone on the planet who may have had something remotely similar. All I know about Sark is a few public incidents, that does not give me the right or insight to judge him. And I do have people who are recovering alcoholics working for me and they are doing TERRIFIC and I support them all i can.
Sure there is stress and pressure at Bama. But to equate being a coordinator at Bama vs being the head dog in Austin is the difference between a hot tub bath and a crawfish boil.

Unfortunately when hiring a coach, part of the process is passing judgement. The people that hire or do not hire him will do so after they pass judgement on his abilities vs his potential draw backs.

In this instance-- if we look at other coaches with known substance abuse problems-- the list of them that have risen above it vs those that have not, is not impressive. Remember the multiple drunk videos of Sumlin? He's not working out well. What about Kiffin and his problems? Sure he looked good at Bama and has stayed quiet at Ole Miss thus far--- but it's been a loooooooooong road for him and he hasn't fully made amends yet. How about Mike Price? Or Bobby Petrino? All their issues cleared up for good?

I'm saying the risk, at this point, is still too significant to hire Sark. And while I do not judge HIM as a person, we all, including those hiring him, will be judging his character. Like it or not.
 
Sure there is stress and pressure at Bama. But to equate being a coordinator at Bama vs being the head dog in Austin is the difference between a hot tub bath and a crawfish boil.

Unfortunately when hiring a coach, part of the process is passing judgement. The people that hire or do not hire him will do so after they pass judgement on his abilities vs his potential draw backs.

In this instance-- if we look at other coaches with known substance abuse problems-- the list of them that have risen above it vs those that have not, is not impressive. Remember the multiple drunk videos of Sumlin? He's not working out well. What about Kiffin and his problems? Sure he looked good at Bama and has stayed quiet at Ole Miss thus far--- but it's been a loooooooooong road for him and he hasn't fully made amends yet. How about Mike Price? Or Bobby Petrino? All their issues cleared up for good?

I'm saying the risk, at this point, is still too significant to hire Sark. And while I do not judge HIM as a person, we all, including those hiring him, will be judging his character. Like it or not.

Must be nice to be able to judge someone without knowing them or their whole story. Pretty much sums up 2020 in judging a whole person based on one aspect.
 
Must be nice to be able to judge someone without knowing them or their whole story. Pretty much sums up 2020 in judging a whole person based on one aspect.
Now you're projecting your biases onto me.

Whether you want to believe it or not, when a person is hired to do a job-- I assume you have a job-- you are hired based on your merit.

If you don't see that, then you don't understand how pretty much everything works--- with the exception of social justice.
 
Must be nice to be able to judge someone without knowing them or their whole story. Pretty much sums up 2020 in judging a whole person based on one aspect.
I think you are missing his point. Risk being one of the main points. "judging someone without knowing them or their whole story". That is the point. Everybody knows the story and it is directly relevant. He had a premier high profile job already and the nation saw how Sark performed and handled it. He received a shot a tiny percentage of the coaching community will ever get. The judgement is not personal, it is risk related and properly placed before handing off the keys to something that involve hundreds of thousands of people.
 
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I think you are missing his point. Risk being one of the main points. "judging someone without knowing them or their whole story". That is the point. Everybody knows the story and it is directly relevant. He had a premier high profile job already and the nation saw how Sark performed and handled it. He received a shot a tiny percentage of the coaching community will ever get. The judgement is not personal, it is risk related and properly placed before handing off the keys to something that involve hundreds of thousands of people.
. . . and hundreds of millions of $.
 
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I think we will see some movement on this in the coming months. I think CDC will make a move when football is over and he can do some quality interviews.
 
What is the correlation between getting a new coach and Sam's coming back?

Is Sam more likely to come back if Herman stays the HC after a couple weeks?
Sam bleeds burnt orange. At this point in his career he would have to seriously think about what is best for him as well.

He has 3 choices
Stay
Leave
Transfer

Depending on his goals, he ought to consider al 3.

If he wants to play in the NFL, then staying another year with Herman may not do him a lot of good unless Yurcich has a concrete plan for him that he believes in.

I feel Sam really wants to come back and is looking for a good (for him and UT) reason to.
 
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I'm glad he's on the wagon as well. But stress can cause people with inhibition/addiction problems to do irrational things.

Would you hire a recovered meth addict? How about a sex addict who cheats on his wife constantly? Where do you draw the line?
Working for Nick Saban isn’t exactly a “stress free” job lol
 
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