There’s nowhere to hide, Art.
Orangebloods will see you at the Omni in Dallas.
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There’s nowhere to hide, Art.
Orangebloods will see you at the Omni in Dallas.
Ketch, you might reconsider Texas joining the Pac-12 after I turn in my first expense report following a road trip to UCLA
Happy Birthday!
You won't see me counting down the days to Lubbock ... ever?Road trips would be sick!
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You'll forgive me if trips to L.A., the Bay Area, Seattle, Portland, Denver and Phoenix are more attractive to these eyes.
The Big 10 is yesterday. The Pac-16 is tomorrow.
The only condition of my acceptance was that I had to take another semester of Spanish, which means that I was the original Du’Vonta Lampkin … well … except for the part where I took the class at ACC and officially enrolled in January.
Heading into the 2016 season, I’d rank the running back units in the Big 12 like this:
1. Oklahoma (Sam Perine/Joe Mixon)
2. Baylor (Shock Linwood, Johnny Jefferson and Devin Chafin)
3. Texas (D’Onta Foreman, Chris Warren and Kirk Johnson)
4. Iowa State (Mike Warren)
5. West Virginia (Rushel Shell)
6. Texas Tech (Justin Stockton)
7. TCU (Sewo Olonilua and Kyle Hicks)
8. Oklahoma State (Barry Sanders Jr. and Chris Carson)
9. Kansas State (Charles Jones, Dalvin Warmack and Justin Silmon)
10. Kansas (Ke'aun Kinner and Quiv Gonzales)
Most of the people I've spoken with don't view the situation through a 2016 prism, but more like a 2025 or 2030 prism.Ketch - Sua's points are right on.
That said the TV execs feel that a Pac -16 with Texas and Oklahoma will bring the Pac 16 into the central timezone which will make the games much easier to watch on the East coast and Chicago. Is this what the TV execs feel will change the Pac 12 fortunes and make Texas and Oklahoma so valuable?
I view the Big 10 as cold, boring, old and stake.Ketch, I look forward to your Thoughts every Monday but this was my favorite read yet. I was about 5 years ahead of you on much of this timeline. I also worked for the UT SID and interned at a local TV station in Austin, but I gave up the dream and now, unlike you, I have to pay for my sports tickets. Congrats on sticking with it! (BTW, how great is John Bianco?)
Just on market size, UT joining the Big Ten would make that conference DOMINATE the top 10 and 15 TV markets, even more so than joining the Pac 16. But I live in the shadow of Kinnick Stadium and I'd still hate to see Texas in the Big Ten over the Pac. It's boring football and there's nothing sexy about attending away games in West Lafayette. I know, I've done it. My vote would be to join the Pac over Big Ten.
Having said all that I'd rather join the Big Ten than stay in the Big 12. Especially if we brought OU. That would immediately be superior to the overrated, top-heavy, SEC. Joining the Big Ten wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. But won't Texas have to concede LHN before they join anyone else? And is there too much allegiance to the have-not schools in the Big 12 to leave?
Everything about the conference would be sick.Road trips would be sick!
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Everything about the conference would be sick.
This needs to happen for the students. None of them want to be in Minnesota in January. Or Des Moines ever.
You won't see me counting down the days to Lubbock ... ever?
This needs to happen for the students. None of them want to be in Minnesota in January. Or Des Moines ever.
and FULL stadia.Aww, come on now. The Hawkeyes play in Iowa City, which is 2 hours away from Des Moines and Des Moines is actually a pretty cool burg. Des Moines is a lot like Austin in 1985 before the world realized how great it was.
Neither Iowa City nor Des Moines is anything like Ames, which is VERY College Station-esque.
Don't get me wrong, the whole state sucks in January and it's never as awesome to visit as Tempe or Palo Alto. But let's not go Iowa-bashing, we got good folks here.
Were you there the night when Jordan hit the shot over Russell and we all screamed out while the news was going on?That was a fun read Geoff. The old Liscano and Noah days. I started at KEYE in January of 97...had forgotten that was the starting line of ya'll's recruiting coverage. Those were fun times at the 'ol EYE.
I apologize to all Iowans.Aww, come on now. The Hawkeyes play in Iowa City, which is 2 hours away from Des Moines and Des Moines is actually a pretty cool burg. Des Moines is a lot like Austin in 1985 before the world realized how great it was.
Neither Iowa City nor Des Moines is anything like Ames, which is VERY College Station-esque.
Don't get me wrong, the whole state sucks in January and it's never as awesome to visit as Tempe or Palo Alto. But let's not go Iowa-bashing, we got good folks here.
We leave Baylor behind right?Everything about the conference would be sick.
This needs to happen for the students. None of them want to be in Minnesota in January. Or Des Moines ever.
Well, I'm not sure how else to respond when everything I say seems to be slotted under the "Joe Fan road trip malaise".
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I can't believe I posted a comment regarding Ketch's birthday that said,I apologize to all Iowans.
I can't believe I posted a comment regarding Ketch's birthday that said,
"Today, El Ketcho is... Tirty tree years old!"
And nobody picked up on that Three Amigos reference? What a disappointing thread!
I'll believe the California schools splitting into separate divisions when I see it. There will be a strong lobby to keep the original Pac 8 together with the "newer" schools in the other division. Texas definitely needs to have a couple of California schools in their division to make the deal.Nonetheless, if I have a vote we're in the PAC. We'd end up w/the AZ schools, maybe Utah, Colorado and the two LA schools. Nice academics and athletics. As you said "Better media markets, better road trips and better overall platform for the Longhorns." Let's ride!
Caught it right AWAY!. I was just catching up overall.
Happy 40th!Dang, what a ten thoughts!
I'm here! Me and de boys got together and got Ketch dis geeft. It's a sweater!I can't believe I posted a comment regarding Ketch's birthday that said,
"Today, El Ketcho is... Tirty tree years old!"
And nobody picked up on that Three Amigos reference? What a disappointing thread!
No dispute. That realignment might be tough. Nonetheless, most anything would be an improvement over the Big XII as it now exists. (Oh and I don't want the Big XII to expand) Of course if we brought some "friends" along with us then the alignment changes dramatically. Oh shut up (to self), even if we realigned it's years off and I'm not sure my wife even cares about my opinion. CheersI'll believe the California schools splitting into separate divisions when I see it. There will be a strong lobby to keep the original Pac 8 together with the "newer" schools in the other division. Texas definitely needs to have a couple of California schools in their division to make the deal.
But the SEC can't match it, and it's a pretty good conference. I don't like the SEC, but I just think you're using the wrong analysis to pick an ideal conference.Top American TV markets in a Pac-16 Conference. Let's count'em.
Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth
6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
7 Boston
8 Atlanta
9 Washington, DC
10 Houston
11 Detroit
12 Phoenix
13 Tampa-St. Petersburg
14 Seattle-Tacoma
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul
16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale
17 Cleveland-Akron
18 Denver
19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne
20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto
21 St. Louis
22 Portland, OR
23 Pittsburgh
24 Charlotte, NC
25 Indianapolis
26 Baltimore
27 Raleigh-Durham
28 San Diego
Four of the top 10.
Six of the top 14
Eight of the top 20.
10 of the top 28.
No one else can match that.