ADVERTISEMENT

2016 Season Running Thread

With all of this raining and flooding weather going on I was in need of some sunshine and I knew just the place to come. Sunny Acapulco has nothing on Orangebloods after a spring game.:D
 
  • Like
Reactions: CoachEmUp64
All I know is we haven't seen ball placement or accuracy within the pocket or flushed like we are out of Buechele since Colt. He's going to take his lumps, but he is Sterling' guy and I heard this well before the Spring game.


It's time to see if the bright lights and pressure get in his head. I'm glad he was an EE.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BringBackRoyal
With all of this raining and flooding weather going on I was in need of some sunshine and I knew just the place to come. Sunny Acapulco has nothing on Orangebloods after a spring game.:D
That's funny coming from a $ooner. I can't recall an offseason where you guys weren't predicting a national title. All of the kids you lost are always replaced by better players. All of your opponents' graduates are irreplaceable. Every year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BringBackRoyal
That's funny coming from a $ooner. I can't recall an offseason where you guys weren't predicting a national title. All of the kids you lost are always replaced by better players. All of your opponents' graduates are irreplaceable. Every year.
I'm sure he thinks they'll boat race Texas. They haven't boat raced Texas since Strong took the job, but I'm certain they think they can.
 
It's going to be a looooooooooooooong summer boys. Voluntary work outs start may 30 I believe. Don't 100% hold me to that, but I think that's what I was told. It will be interesting to see how they develope over the summer. More work can get done in the summer time than any other period. The early spring is all about strength and building the body. The late spring-- "now" -- is the same. Summer work outs, though "voluntary" are a combination of building up your Oline's size and power, as well as your DL. Dbs and wrs work on speed and agility. If I'm SB, I'm in the weight room every day working out with the Oline. Then I'm headed to the dome to do work with wrs and rbs. That kid is going to HAVE to work like a dog over the next 4.5 months. He must eat, drink, sleep, sh!t-- all things football. No summer break- (sorry dude) no bars, no stupid stuff. Just weight room, domed room, film room. Then wash, rinse, repeat.
 
I think we beat both Baylor and Oklahoma. I'm thinking we lose to TCU and Notre Dame and one other school we weren't expecting to lose to, other than that I just don't see us, losing any other games.

I don't know about TCU? They will need to ready a new qb themselves this year. It is really hard to predict the record for 2017 and I think this squad could play with a chip on their shoulders and do really well possibly better than eight wins. If they could go out and beat ND watch out! Obviously Horn fans are cautiously optimistic about are future because we have been starved for so long playing without a competent qb or OC. We started to see Ash turn the corner playing qb before getting concussed but that is the last we have seen of good qb play.
 
It's going to be a looooooooooooooong summer boys. Voluntary work outs start may 30 I believe. Don't 100% hold me to that, but I think that's what I was told. It will be interesting to see how they develope over the summer. More work can get done in the summer time than any other period. The early spring is all about strength and building the body. The late spring-- "now" -- is the same. Summer work outs, though "voluntary" are a combination of building up your Oline's size and power, as well as your DL. Dbs and wrs work on speed and agility. If I'm SB, I'm in the weight room every day working out with the Oline. Then I'm headed to the dome to do work with wrs and rbs. That kid is going to HAVE to work like a dog over the next 4.5 months. He must eat, drink, sleep, sh!t-- all things football. No summer break- (sorry dude) no bars, no stupid stuff. Just weight room, domed room, film room. Then wash, rinse, repeat.
He (Shane) is that type of kid! The kids coming in the 1st of June are hungry and ready to pounce. The young leaders on this squad are going to push these guys to bust their ass each and every day.
 
Scholz is Texas considered a "young" team again for the 7th year in a row?
Why ask, look at the roster.... When it comes to starts and game action, not so much. They're pretty damn young outside of that. Would you consider a team playing mostly Freshman, RS Freshman and Sophomores, young?

The front five in the trenches are likely to be, True Sophomore, Junior, Freshman, True Sophomore, Senior... that will be one of the youngest lines in CFB outside of starts.
 
Last edited:
Why ask, look at the roster.... When it comes to starts and game action, not so much. They're pretty damn young outside of that. Would you consider a team playing mostly Freshman, RS Freshman and Sophomores, young?
Ok I'm just preparing myself for the plethora of excuses in case Strong doesn't work out. He's coaching for his job wouldn't you agree?
 
Scholz is Texas considered a "young" team again for the 7th year in a row?

When you have the coaching turnover we've had you are going to be perpetually young, and that's not a good thing. That being a valid excuse for someone is a different topic, but it doesn't change the fact that we are young.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BringBackRoyal
bell....Bob Wills IS still the king, but that doesn't mean you are any smarter. The team will start how many seniors?......ok, now add in how many juniors....starters I mean......everyone that's left is considered young. When more than half your starters are under class men, you are considered young.....It ain't that hard!

I don't fault you for asking Sholz to help you with your math.
 
Bell....of course every coach is coaching for his job......and one day when the Sooner Nation gets tired of being blown out in bowl games perhaps Bowl Choke Bob will be as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BringBackRoyal
bell....Bob Wills IS still the king, but that doesn't mean you are any smarter. The team will start how many seniors?......ok, now add in how many juniors....starters I mean......everyone that's left is considered young. When more than half your starters are under class men, you are considered young.....It ain't that hard!

I don't fault you for asking Sholz to help you with your math.
I guess what I'm asking Oldhorn is will the ostrich crowd use the "we"re young" excuse for the 7th year in a row if Charlie proves he can't right the titanic? You do agree he's coaching for his job? My contention is that there should be plenty of talent to have success regardless of the amount of seniors starting. Same for OU.
 
Ok I'm just preparing myself for the plethora of excuses in case Strong doesn't work out. He's coaching for his job wouldn't you agree?
To say the team isn't young is dumb, but they have plenty of starts. They will compete, I'm not worried. No excuses, they haven't struggled with the Sooners yet.


If someone want to use it as an excuse, they wont be wrong. But, the age of the team is based on returning starters.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LonghornSoldier
Bell....of course every coach is coaching for his job......and one day when the Sooner Nation gets tired of being blown out in bowl games perhaps Bowl Choke Bob will be as well.
Very good point Oldhorn but you have to admit Bowl Choke Bob took what could legitimately called a young team to the playoffs. Meanwhile Strong is still looking to break .500 3 OC's later. That's all I'm saying.
 
Very good point Oldhorn but you have to admit Bowl Choke Bob took what could legitimately called a young team to the playoffs. Meanwhile Strong is still looking to break .500 3 OC's later. That's all I'm saying.
He had some great breaks and lost to a bad Texas team, those playoffs didn't go so well. He's no Spring chicken at OU, he should be making those type of things happen.
 
He had some great breaks and lost to a bad Texas team, those playoffs didn't go so well. He's no Spring chicken at OU, he should be making those type of things happen.
Both good points and no doubt luck is involved.
 
Young guys are a challenge and young guys mistakes will at some point cost games. That said, a coach doesn't lose because he is coaching young guys...he loses because they coach young guys poorly. last year's coaching could have been better, no doubt, as is evidenced by coaches being replaced. if the team doesn't PLAY well, changes will be made. They might not always win, but they better play well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: swVAHorn
I would use it as an excuse of why we aren't going to win 10+ games, but you won't read any posts from me excusing Strong for going .500 again. 8-9 wins is what I want to see year 3 of this rebuild.
 
Scholz is Texas considered a "young" team again for the 7th year in a row?
If you have sophs and freshmen playing major roles and hardly any seniors starting it is a young team. Doesn't matter if it is 20 years in a row.

Surely you understand the concept of having young players or do you just play sooner and bury your head?
 
I would use it as an excuse of why we aren't going to win 10+ games, but you won't read any posts from me excusing Strong for going .500 again. 8-9 wins is what I want to see year 3 of this rebuild.
Bubba I've always admired your posts because you don't make excuses, you call it like it is and I try to do the same regarding the Sooners. Heck it doesn't hurt my feeling to call Stoops and his 5 mil. Plus salary out for underachieving, done it many times right here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: swVAHorn
If you have sophs and freshmen playing major roles and hardly any seniors starting it is a young team. Doesn't matter if it is 20 years in a row.

Surely you understand the concept of having young players or do you just play sooner and bury your head?
See the issue a lot of folks have here is that it doesn't always seem, at least based on the results to date, that Strong necessarily understands how to make correct personnel decisions all the time. If he is playing underclass men over upperclassmen right now, especially with his job on the line then there is apparently a developmental problem within the way he is coaching and bringing players along wouldn't you agree? I just can't understand how a team can keep being classified as young unless that means they have no idea what they're doing in recruiting and keep hoping for the next great thing year after year.can he not develop the upperclassmen he has recruited? Did he recruit bad? Possibly. It certainly ain't Mack, who by the way is twice the recruiter Charlie is.
 
Look! A squirrel!

Are $ooners predicting a national title for the 50th year in a row while you're hypocritically and moronically accusing Longhorn fans of sunshine pumping? Dumbass.
I'm not predicting a national title but I do expect a successful year from our 5 mil. Plus a year coach regardless if he has recruited well or not or how many upperclassmen he has starting.That's on him not me.
 
See the issue a lot of folks have here is that it doesn't always seem, at least based on the results to date, that Strong necessarily understands how to make correct personnel decisions all the time. If he is playing underclass men over upperclassmen right now, especially with his job on the line then there is apparently a developmental problem within the way he is coaching and bringing players along wouldn't you agree? I just can't understand how a team can keep being classified as young unless that means they have no idea what they're doing in recruiting and keep hoping for the next great thing year after year.can he not develop the upperclassmen he has recruited? Did he recruit bad? Possibly. It certainly ain't Mack, who by the way is twice the recruiter Charlie is.

Mack's recruiting and development was shit when he was fired, and we weren't young his last year (2013), and I don't think anyone claimed we were. So this isn't the seventh year in a row of claiming youth. We had a pretty veteran team in 2013 they just weren't very good. Mack's recruiting prowess 10 years ago has no bearing on what this team is today, but his recruiting in 2013 does. There was a developmental problem under Strong that's why he's is on his 3rd OC. He's certainly accountable for those issues in my ledger.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HornsRuleU
Mack's recruiting and development was shit when he was fired, and we weren't young his last year (2013), and I don't think anyone claimed we were. So this isn't the seventh year in a row of claiming youth. We had a pretty veteran team in 2013 they just weren't very good. Mack's recruiting prowess 10 years ago has no bearing on what this team is today, but his recruiting in 2013 does. There was a developmental problem under Strong that's why he's is on his 3rd OC. He's certainly accountable for those issues in my ledger.
I agree UT wasn't young in 2013 but a lot of horn fans have been claiming rebuilding and young since the 5-7 year. I agree with the rest of your post. Even with a team that wasn't considered to be real good Mack still managed to go 8-5 I think and tgat was considered to be with recruiting down for his standards. Just pointing out the difference between to 2 coached teams
 
Very good point Oldhorn but you have to admit Bowl Choke Bob took what could legitimately called a young team to the playoffs. Meanwhile Strong is still looking to break .500 3 OC's later. That's all I'm saying.

You are kidding, right?

Nothing factual about OUs youth. Meanwhile....in Texas.....there is.

OU offensive starters/key reserves
5 SRs WR, WR, C, OG, OT
3 JRs QB, WR (all were RS's so you had 7 4th year or longer players in the lineup)
2 SO RB and LG
1 RS FR at OT
Basically the only youth on your offense was at OL

OU defense starters/key reserves in the rotation:
2 SRs
5 JRs
4 SOs (all either were 3rd yr SO bc RS or had started their FR year)


How is that a young team? 15 of 22 were upperclassmen. And pretty much every underclassmen had at least a RS year and/or a previous year starting. That is not young. That is called seasoned.
 
See the issue a lot of folks have here is that it doesn't always seem, at least based on the results to date, that Strong necessarily understands how to make correct personnel decisions all the time. If he is playing underclass men over upperclassmen right now, especially with his job on the line then there is apparently a developmental problem within the way he is coaching and bringing players along wouldn't you agree? I just can't understand how a team can keep being classified as young unless that means they have no idea what they're doing in recruiting and keep hoping for the next great thing year after year.can he not develop the upperclassmen he has recruited? Did he recruit bad? Possibly. It certainly ain't Mack, who by the way is twice the recruiter Charlie is.


Bell...if you look at what Texas had for recruits for years under mack...avaerge at best....I for this very same reason say that you are wrong about failure to develop....in Strongs case for sure ....you cant make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t....If these last 2 years recruits dont develop, then you can make that case. For every Malcomb Brown 5* player mack brought in there were more 5* Darius James and Estelle type players that may have been highly rated, but couldnt or wouldnt play....Besides....you have that backwards....mack isnt half the recruiter Strong is. Imagine what he will be able to do when he returns Texas to winning.
 
You are kidding, right?

Nothing factual about OUs youth. Meanwhile....in Texas.....there is.

OU offensive starters/key reserves
5 SRs WR, WR, C, OG, OT
3 JRs QB, WR (all were RS's so you had 7 4th year or longer players in the lineup)
2 SO RB and LG
1 RS FR at OT
Basically the only youth on your offense was at OL

OU defense starters/key reserves in the rotation:
2 SRs
5 JRs
4 SOs (all either were 3rd yr SO bc RS or had started their FR year)


How is that a young team? 15 of 22 were upperclassmen. And pretty much every underclassmen had at least a RS year and/or a previous year starting. That is not young. That is called seasoned.
Haha holy crap talk about ignoring the elephant in the room?? How about a whole new Offense with a new OC with a new qb with 2 new starting wr's with a young offensive line In Terms of starts? Damn son. Nobody knew who the qb was going to until right before the season. I didn't even mention Mixon getting a lot of playing time.
 
Last edited:
yeah Bell.....but to be considered TRUELY young you have to start the year with a QB and starting Center that are true freshmen.....never mind that the wideout hauling in the passes is a true freshman as well....now THATS young.
 
  • Like
Reactions: swVAHorn
yeah Bell.....but to be considered TRUELY young you have to start the year with a QB and starting Center that are true freshmen.....never mind that the wideout hauling in the passes is a true freshman as well....now THATS young.

To his point Strong starting a true fresh center and possible QB in year 3 is somewhat his own doing. He's had time to recruit those positions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Belldozer1
Very good point Oldhorn but you have to admit Bowl Choke Bob took what could legitimately called a young team to the playoffs.
A) It's a lie ou was young last year. A lie.
B) You lucked out in playing every single good team in conference without their starting QB. We'll see how that works for you this year.
 
Haha holy crap talk about ignoring the elephant in the room?? How about a whole new Offense with a new OC with a new qb with 2 new starting wr's with a young offensive line In Terms of starts? Damn son. Nobody knew who the qb was going to until right before the season. I didn't even mention Mixon getting a lot of playing time.
So you're saying Texas is young...lol



Without us doing it for you.
 
To his point Strong starting a true fresh center and possible QB in year 3 is somewhat his own doing. He's had time to recruit those positions.
He's taken 1 kid at QB prior to Shane while holding on to Heard' commitment. There were attempts at grad transfers, but you can't force them to come. With Shane enrolled and Ehlinger on the way, it's gonna get fun again.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT