2016 Season Running Thread

[oldhorn2]

Malik does a 4,38 40?....a 4.38 40???? I knew he was fast, but I had no idea...Damn!....Maybe they could give him a little parachute like they have on drag racers to help him get lined up quick for the next play.

well, crap....if he is that damned quick I guess he doesnt have any problem getting lined up for the next play


Jesus!...if he is that damned fast, I bet it doesnt matter where he is lined up. He could get there in time if he started in the tunnel.

 

[ASURAM2010]

Let me preface my following statement with, I wish no injuries on any player regardless of them. With that said, I am on the only one that sees Heard going down with a "minor" injury for the rest of the spring as a good thing? It thins the herd at QB so the #1 & #2 guy get more reps in each and every practice. I think that this could actually be a good thing for the QB situation coming in to the fall. From all indications Heard was going to be the #3 guy anyway so it helps with the reps. The only downside is that if Swoopes is the guy, then having Heard not go through the spring means that if we wanted to redshirt Shane, that the backup would have very little experience in this system. Another positive out of the thing is that it could provide Heard with a lot of film time. When you can't get on the field, there isn't much else to do except watch film and study practice.

 

[oldhorn2]

Sadly....very little good happens because a player is injured. One of Heard's problems (as I understand it with as little real imfo as I get) is his lack of study and preperation off the field. He has gotten by all his life with his god given talent, and never had to work like everyone else. I hope he does do all he can to improve. We will need him before the year is out no matter what.

 

[LonghornSoldier]

I say we win more for simple reasons
-We are back to where we were in 2009- Spread them out and run between (either with speed ie Charles or with power ie Benson)- screens and deep balls (Greg Davis says hi)
-Defense get of the field on 3rd down as we still have the most "talented" 2-deep in the conference and the last two year our offense is the reason our D has looked not as good on paper
- Charlie runs a pretty discipline team (we're no KState but) No penalties, Limit turnovers and get takeaways.

I see us with more 5-8 play drives with little time off the clock and then the D feeding off the scores and trying to help us blow teams out (seriously since Strong has been her our D has stopped many "unstoppable teams and the O let them hang around)

Perhaps your version of history differs from that of myself... but Benson sure as hell wasnt in our backfield in 2009..... as a matter of fact he hadnt been in our backfield for 6 or 7 years at that point.....for that matter was JC still here in 2009? The answer is NO.... how are you a Longhorn and not know when some MAJOR players were actually here?

 

[jsto60]

Sadly....very little good happens because a player is injured. One of Heard's problems (as I understand it with as little real imfo as I get) is his lack of study and preperation off the field. He has gotten by all his life with his god given talent, and never had to work like everyone else. I hope he does do all he can to improve. We will need him before the year is out no matter what.

I agree here. No injury is good.

We are already thin at QB. So Heard getting hurt and losing all that prep/learning time.....not good. Considering we could need him to take snaps this year.

Silver lining is Shane got more snaps. But the staff could have made that happen without an injury to Heard. Heck, the could have just moved Swoopes to TE and let Heard/Buechele take all the snaps at QB.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Perhaps your version of history differs from that of myself... but Benson sure as hell wasnt in our backfield in 2009..... as a matter of fact he hadnt been in our backfield for 6 or 7 years at that point.....for that matter was JC still here in 2009? The answer is NO.... how are you a Longhorn and not know when some MAJOR players were actually here?

Well, you are most certainly mistaken, LS. Charles and Benson were on that team together. Not shocking you wouldn't know that, though. They hardly gotten any playing time behind Ricky Williams and Eric Metcalf.

 

[Metcalf #2]

We're not doctors, gentlemen. The NCAA has testing programs for this. Let's let them worry about it. Besides, it's not that hard to put on 35 pounds in a summer if you really hit the gym.

Lol. Good to see somebody got it.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Let me preface my following statement with, I wish no injuries on any player regardless of them. With that said, I am on the only one that sees Heard going down with a "minor" injury for the rest of the spring as a good thing? It thins the herd at QB so the #1 & #2 guy get more reps in each and every practice. I think that this could actually be a good thing for the QB situation coming in to the fall. From all indications Heard was going to be the #3 guy anyway so it helps with the reps. The only downside is that if Swoopes is the guy, then having Heard not go through the spring means that if we wanted to redshirt Shane, that the backup would have very little experience in this system. Another positive out of the thing is that it could provide Heard with a lot of film time. When you can't get on the field, there isn't much else to do except watch film and study practice.

I'd rather he were getting reps in this all-new offense, though he was going to be in a distant third after the spring regardless. If we lose both Swoopes and Buechele to injury, we'll be screwed anyway, but we'll be extra-screwed with Heard trying to run an offense he doesn't know well enough. There's some talk that his shoddy work ethic has improved, but we'll see how sustained that is when the two players ahead of him are extending their lead for the position. It's possible that his being out of the picture ends up being a positive development insofar as it gives the two leading competitors more reps, but that will only be something we can judge in hindsight. It's also possible that it ends up being a very negative development if we have especially bad luck with injuries at QB this year.

Also, Buechele will not be redshirted; he's likely going to be the starter at some point. Having another year of separation between him and Ehlinger would also be a good thing, given our continuing less-than-ideal circumstances at QB. We absolutely must keep Sam on board.

 

[BillyRay]

We're not doctors, gentlemen. The NCAA has testing programs for this. Let's let them worry about it. Besides, it's not that hard to put on 35 pounds in a summer if you really hit the gym.

Sure you can put on 35lbs in a summer....but it ain't all gonna be muscle. That's for certain.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Lol. Aaaand somebody didn't get it.

 

[BillyRay]

Lol. Aaaand somebody didn't get it.

Oh...didn't know your shtick was posting riddles to figure out....lol

 

[BillyRay]

Lol. Aaaand somebody didn't get it.

Okay...now I get it. Sorry...I'm the retard in the thread it appears...Lol

 

[Metcalf #2]

Lol. It's all good.

 

[CoachEmUp64]

 

[clob94]

Is that #85?

A quick roster check says yes it is. He tall. He's the dude that will go up on the ladder anywhere on the field. I give the kid credit for being fearless but 6'6 is a BIG target and my only fear is that a dude that tall, who's been totally fearless coming over the middle will either become an absolute animal, or get sawed in half by a head hunting safety.

 

[bubba2023]

Is that #85?

A quick roster check says yes it is. He tall. He's the dude that will go up on the ladder anywhere on the field. I give the kid credit for being fearless but 6'6 is a BIG target and my only fear is that a dude that tall, who's been totally fearless coming over the middle will either become an absolute animal, or get sawed in half by a head hunting safety.

Head hunting safety is becoming a thing of the past in today's football. Pretty much any big hit on a receiver over the middle is going to draw a flag and possible ejection legal or not.

 

[swVAHorn]

The rules are so much in favor of the offense. Sucks.

 

[Scholz]

Head hunting safety is becoming a thing of the past in today's football. Pretty much any big hit on a receiver over the middle is going to draw a flag and possible ejection legal or not.

Yep, that's definitely the way it is now. Safeties can't as much as breathe on a crossing WR now without drawing a penalty. Still, the flip side of that coin is mangled WRs so there's also that. I agree it's swung too much in the other direction but there's a reason for the change.

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[bubba2023]

Agree. Anything in the name of safety is pretty much going to come at a detriment to defenders, but it's necessary if the game wants to continue.

That's one of the reasons that I wouldn't be against new rules that tilt the scales back towards the defense some so football doesn't just become a glorified 7 on 7 match.

 

[jsto60]

I'm for safety and all. But it is what it is.

Some jobs are just more dangerous than others. Firefighters run in to burning buildings. If football players don't like the risk (and the reward$), go find another career. You are seeing some of that now. No one is making you play.

To turn the game in to two below touch, would be lame. We are starting that change. All because the NFL is worried about getting sued. We sue way to much nowadays. You eat burgers and get fat and sue the fast food chain. You play a sport and then sue the sport when you get hurt. Get over it. You made that choice. No need to sue all the damn time.

Maybe Bob Stoops should be NFL commish. He is really good at covering up dangerous hits and keeping them out of the court systems.

 

[Scholz]

Inside Notes from Tuesday's Closed Practice

- It was the 13th practice of the spring; it was full pads and likely the last full-pads practice before the Orange-White game. The team could go shorts, shoulder pads and helmets for a lighter, more walk-through-ish 14th practice before the spring game.

- However, it's hard to picture the new offense taking a "walkthrough" as much as it would seem like a "sprint-through". Everything we've heard says that it moves super-fast. New OC Sterlin Gilbert's offense was only getting installed in the practices open to the media (No. 1 and No. 3) and it was already clear even then. Texas fans have wanted a new spread offense for what feels like ages and they're about to see one, if nothing else. Anyway ...

- Safeties Jason Hall and Dylan Haines are still limited, and at this time, we'll likely just have to wait for word from the school as to their availability for the scrimmage. Fans will surely get to see a large dose of sophomore Deshon Elliott with the first-team any way you slice it. He had a big day on Tuesday. Elliott's going to be tough for Haines and/or Hall to hold off much longer.

- Multiple people have said backup OG Alex Anderson won't play in the spring game. He's been in the pit for "the last week or two" per one source. Anderson is not a player who factors in to spring OL depth until at least three starters are injured anyway.

- RBs Roderick Bernard and Tristian Houston both returned to practice Tuesday and both "are fine."

- LB Anthony Wheeler had a big TFL on a play where he apparently blew by a walk-on offensive lineman (likely Alex Anderson's LG replacement with the two's). The source said Wheeler and Malik Jefferson rotate in together as a pair with the first group, with the other group being Tim Cole and Edwin Freeman.

- Yet another source made mention of QB Shane Buechele's ability to run the football. I've always thought he's a little too small to subject himself to a bunch of hits at this time, but for what it's worth, people in attendance at practice pretty consistently say that he looks good as a runner. It's my guess that fans will likely see at least a flash of this in the spring game with all the mention of it lately.

- One person said the distribution of reps are "the same" between QBs Tyrone Swoopes and Shane Buechele which surely means it remains a near-even-split in first-team work with the edge in number of snaps still going to Swoopes.

- WR Deandre McNeal got banged up at the end of the day (after another reportedly nice practice where he caught a TD) on a contested ball with nickel CB P.J. Locke. I'd be surprised if John Bonney has taken a snap at first-team nickel all spring. With all the substituting and messing around with personnel and injuries (on both sides of the football), Locke has been a staple in the defensive backfield along with CBs Holton Hill and Davante Davis this spring. He's turning into a very nice player for Texas by all accounts. It doesn't sound like anything major for McNeal injury-wise, but we'll keep our ears open.

 

[bubba2023]

I'm for safety and all. But it is what it is.

Some jobs are just more dangerous than others. Firefighters run in to burning buildings. If football players don't like the risk (and the reward$), go find another career. You are seeing some of that now. No one is making you play.

To turn the game in to two below touch, would be lame. We are starting that change. All because the NFL is worried about getting sued. We sue way to much nowadays. You eat burgers and get fat and sue the fast food chain. You play a sport and then sue the sport when you get hurt. Get over it. You made that choice. No need to sue all the damn time.

Maybe Bob Stoops should be NFL commish. He is really good at covering up dangerous hits and keeping them out of the court systems.

If everything is out in the open and the league isn't hiding anything then yes one enters at their own risk. But that's not necessarily the point imo. I don't think the general public wants to watch people being maimed. Maybe the hardcore football purist wishes it was like the old days, but those casual sports watchers (the overwhelming majority) will just change the channel, and that's not what the NFL wants. I think the old school purist is in the minority. They are the majority in sports related forums, but not when mixed in with the rest of the public.

 

[diadevic]

- One person said the distribution of reps are "the same" between QBs Tyrone Swoopes and Shane Buechele which surely means it remains a near-even-split in first-team work with the edge in number of snaps still going to Swoopes.

More Great News!

 

[jsto60]

Agree. Anything in the name of safety is pretty much going to come at a detriment to defenders, but it's necessary if the game wants to continue.

That's one of the reasons that I wouldn't be against new rules that tilt the scales back towards the defense some so football doesn't just become a glorified 7 on 7 match.

This. With spread offenses and 5 seconds in between snaps, you might as well be playing

If everything is out in the open and the league isn't hiding anything then yes one enters at their own risk. But that's not necessarily the point imo. I don't think the general public wants to watch people being maimed. Maybe the hardcore football purist wishes it was like the old days, but those casual sports watchers (the overwhelming majority) will just change the channel, and that's not what the NFL wants. I think the old school purist is in the minority. They are the majority in sports related forums, but not when mixed in with the rest of the public.

I don't want to see anyone maimed. I am not for tying WRs up on the goal post and letting LBs take free shots spearing them.

And I don't buy the NFL is hiding things theory. When you have to strap on a helmet to do something, common sense tells you it is dangerous. Anyone that watches football knows it is dangerous. Kids are playing it in JR high and HS, knowing it is dangerous. The NFL isn't hiding anything that we don't already know using common sense.


I am not sure there is such a thing as a "casual football fan". Even so, I really don't buy the argument that they will change the channel. They turned on the football game to watch football. What are they going to change it to, some Sunday afternoon Real housewives of some City.....simply because they saw a tackle, in a game where the goal is to tackle the guy with the ball. If your panties get wadded up that easily, I suggest taking up Home Economics in HS and not football. It is that simple, its a choice. Not some disease that the NFL is forcing upon players and fans.

 

[jsto60]

We really do need to stop the Whoosification of America. And also blaming others for the repercussions of our decisions.

If I decide to take up deep sea diving as a career, I am not going to get upset if I get water in my underwear. And then cry about it to a lawyer. Then create a fundraiser for wet undies. And then hound the government authorities to have wet deep sea diver underwear awareness day put on the calendar.

Nor would I be shocked if myself or someone I know got "the bends" from diving and surfacing too fast.

Nor should any football player that plays this sport for free as a kid, be shocked when they choose to play it for millions as a career and end up wearing their body out faster than normal. It is what it is. The NFL isn't hiding that from anyone is some great big conspiracy.

 

[jsto60]

FWIW I never watched Oprah. I changed the channel every time her show was on. Millions are just like me. And yet she was still successful.

Nor did I ever feel the need to petition to have Oprah taken off the air. I simply CHOSE not to watch. But understood that others are allowed to watch if they want to. Not my job to make that decision for everyone by suing her network for making my ears bleed or because she polluted the minds of millions of vaginas.

 

[bubba2023]

I'm not meaning to sound like I am arguing against you. It's all about $$ to the NFL. They will do whatever will maximize profits, if that's completely changing the rules in favor of safety they'll do it and that's their decision. Your argument about freedom of choice is valid but it works both ways, and it's the NFL's choice to make the game one way or the other. They've chosen the path they are on because they feel it will maximize viewers and profits. If you don't like that path your free to change the channel to let the NFL know that you don't like it.

Your deep see diver analogy is ridiculous.

 

[jsto60]

I'm not meaning to sound like I am arguing against you. It's all about $$ to the NFL. They will do whatever will maximize profits, if that's completely changing the rules in favor of safety they'll do it and that's their decision. Your argument about freedom of choice is valid but it works both ways, and it's the NFL's choice to make the game one way or the other. They've chosen the path they are on because they feel it will maximize viewers and profits. If you don't like that path your free to change the channel to let the NFL know that you don't like it.

Your deep see diver analogy is ridiculous.

Thank. The deep sea diver analogy wasn't meant to directly correlate with the NFL. It was an example of the chain of ridiculousness people follow nowadays. Just because you don't like an outcome of something you made a decision to do, doesn't mean you have to blame someone else and then platform against it and create a day on the calendar for it.

The NFL isn't perfect. They absolutely have chosen to maximize profits at others expenses. Which is pretty much what every business in a capitalistic society does. And one of their biggest failures was not taking care of their own, ie the older players insurance fund.

Still, I fail to see any validity in your point that the NFL is hiding something. Every kid in flag football knows that tackle football can get you hurt. Some choose to play, some don't. What is lame is those that choose to play and then act like they had no idea they could get hurt....just so that they can sue later and make more $. Those guys are just as bad as the NFL in their exploitation and their decision to try and maximize their profits after the fact.

 

[bubba2023]

I never meant that the NFL is hiding something. I was agreeing with your point that one enters at their own risk, but only if everything is out in the open. To my understanding right now everything known to date is public knowledge at this point.

 

[oldhorn2]

Back in the days before face masks, you didnt see much "spearing"...with smaller shoulder pads you didnt see quite so much "flying' around....Rugby is played with very little padding and no helmets and those guys are not hurt as much as NFL players. All that armor leads to reckless play.......somewhat.

I realize that back in the day, players were smaller, thus limiting the potential damage inflicted. However, it may be that if padding went back to what they used in the 1960's, the play might be different, and smaller more agile guys might be at more of a premium.

I also know that the old addage..."you can never go back" is an absolute that cannot be over come. Then again, ya'll might not know but NFL linemen of the 50's and 60's rarely lived into their 60's....carrying that 250 lbs must have been tough on them.

 

[swVAHorn]

FWIW I never watched Oprah. I changed the channel every time her show was on. Millions are just like me. And yet she was still successful.

Nor did I ever feel the need to petition to have Oprah taken off the air. I simply CHOSE not to watch. But understood that others are allowed to watch if they want to. Not my job to make that decision for everyone by suing her network for making my ears bleed or because she polluted the minds of millions of vaginas.

I understand what you are trying to say....however that logic doesn't work on many things that we "choose to do"....There are laws that I think are absolutely stupid and other people think they are very important. Consensus is hard to get. Smoking seemed like a no-brainer....you chose to smoke it is bad for you so don't sue over it......till you find out Cigarette companies "added" things to make it more addictive thus making their business more money and then smokers make ALL of OUR insurance more expensive...in other words what they do effects all of us...

 

[bubba2023]

I don't know the stats, but I read reports that CTE is an issue in rugby and even soccer. NFL gets all the press because it's clearly the most popular. What we know about CTE is it's not the kill shots its the repetitive smaller jarrings of the head that are the issue. The stuff that you don't come off the field for. You can't separate that from contact sports. Head trauma will always be a nasty side effect of any kind of collision sport.

 

[jsto60]

I never meant that the NFL is hiding something. I was agreeing with your point that one enters at their own risk, but only if everything is out in the open. To my understanding right now everything known to date is public knowledge at this point.

I don't think it is the NFLs fault that scientists are just now figuring out the long term ramifications of CTE.

And even without that knowledge, it wasn't like playing football was any more or less dangerous. Everyone knows its dangerous. So is drinking, smoking, running with the bulls, eating fast food, and on and on.

 

[diadevic]

. Everyone knows its dangerous. So is eating fast food, and on and on.

WHAT!!!

 

[bubba2023]

I don't think it is the NFLs fault that scientists are just now figuring out the long term ramifications of CTE.

And even without that knowledge, it wasn't like playing football was any more or less dangerous. Everyone knows its dangerous. So is drinking, smoking, running with the bulls, eating fast food, and on and on.

Agree. The NFL isn't going to get sued out of existence unless there is evidence that they knew about something and even then the NFL could likely withstand the lawsuits much like the tobacco industry. Not to mention now there is evidence that players develop CTE from their time in college/high school before they even suited up for an NFL team. That's not going to help anyone prove that NFL is the big bad wolf.

Their decisions to change the rules in the name of safety are all a calculation of protecting their brand name. I don't mind any of the rules, and I don't think any of the NFL rule changes fall under the wussification of America, considering a fraction of a percent of America plays in the NFL, I can't imagine their decisions wussifying the entire country. Unless you think your kid becomes a wussy if he can't see a safety lighting up a receiver on TV anymore.