I "Liked" your post for its proper and whimsical use of "between."
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Also, BU leads nation in penalties every single year. When the offense is clicking, it is something to behold. But those stinking false starts/lineman not set penalties are extremely frustrating.
We are not talking scholarships. What we are discussing throws and what a D1 qb's that should be able to make. DIII do not give out scholarships. What has happened here is giving a scholarship to an individual that has the "tools" such as size, speed, arm strenth etc.and potential to be a very good qb but is missing the most important asset, which is mental. Coaches can not and I mean can not MAKE a quarter back..... the just are!
Coaches can absolutely make a QB....if he listens and puts in the work. yes he has to have the tools too. I don't believe "they just are". The best ones WORK. Peyton is not a good athlete at all but he outworks everyone else.
QB coaches refine the skill set of their players and perform drills that complement their system.
I think everyone needs to chill
- Its sad that Swoops has had some good games but they are over shadowed by some terrible games the team has had.
Remember Colt frekin McCoy would go 3 and out sometimes ( and yes even throw the ball out of bounds and not give the WR a chance or into the ground close but not catchable) and people were frustrated (remember- before Colt's Jr year half the Texas fans were still unsure about him), then other times when its 3rd and 10 he throws a crazy pass and Cosby or Ship save us. Guys I remember Swoops just like Colt over throwing and not being on the same page as the WR. But I've also seen Swoops passes go right through our WR hands on 3 and 10, or the WR run a half ass route because he thought he was a decoy and not a real option. And we're not saying "Im done with these WR's" ..we done with that offense.
Look at former OU QB Knight, he beat Bama and lost his job and now is gone.
3 Years ago Tech had 3 QB's that everyone claimed could light the world on fire with progression...none of those 3 are the current starter.
Aggy signed 2 #1 QB and we laugh at them on a daily basis on the level of fail
USC runs the spread and their QB sitaution = ???
We played one of the so called "best" QB's last year from Cal= he was average against us
FSU lost Winston= back to average
Auburn= speaks for itself
BU= plug and play..but you never win anything big
Think about this..we almost/basically beat Cal and OkSt and did beat OU and BU, if we win the CAL and OKST Watson and Wick are still here...and their scheme pretty much won those games!!! Guys don't make this QB thing out to be more than it is. You don't have to be Colt or Boykin to light the world on fire in CFB. It's like most other sports, supporting cast from head coach down decides how games will play out.
I say we win more for simple reasons
-We are back to where we were in 2009- Spread them out and run between (either with speed ie Charles or with power ie Benson)- screens and deep balls (Greg Davis says hi)
-Defense get of the field on 3rd down as we still have the most "talented" 2-deep in the conference and the last two year our offense is the reason our D has looked not as good on paper
- Charlie runs a pretty discipline team (we're no KState but) No penalties, Limit turnovers and get takeaways.
I see us with more 5-8 play drives with little time off the clock and then the D feeding off the scores and trying to help us blow teams out (seriously since Strong has been her our D has stopped many "unstoppable teams and the O let them hang around)
- Its sad that Swoops has had some good games but they are over shadowed by some terrible games the team has had.
Remember Colt frekin McCoy would go 3 and out sometimes ( and yes even throw the ball out of bounds and not give the WR a chance or into the ground close but not catchable) and people were frustrated (remember- before Colt's Jr year half the Texas fans were still unsure about him), then other times when its 3rd and 10 he throws a crazy pass and Cosby or Ship save us. Guys I remember Swoops just like Colt over throwing and not being on the same page as the WR. But I've also seen Swoops passes go right through our WR hands on 3 and 10, or the WR run a half ass route because he thought he was a decoy and not a real option. And we're not saying "Im done with these WR's" ..we done with that offense.
Look at former OU QB Knight, he beat Bama and lost his job and now is gone.
3 Years ago Tech had 3 QB's that everyone claimed could light the world on fire with progression...none of those 3 are the current starter.
Aggy signed 2 #1 QB and we laugh at them on a daily basis on the level of fail
USC runs the spread and their QB sitaution = ???
We played one of the so called "best" QB's last year from Cal= he was average against us
FSU lost Winston= back to average
Auburn= speaks for itself
BU= plug and play..but you never win anything big
Think about this..we almost/basically beat Cal and OkSt and did beat OU and BU, if we win the CAL and OKST Watson and Wick are still here...and their scheme pretty much won those games!!! Guys don't make this QB thing out to be more than it is. You don't have to be Colt or Boykin to light the world on fire in CFB. It's like most other sports, supporting cast from head coach down decides how games will play out.
I say we win more for simple reasons
-We are back to where we were in 2009- Spread them out and run between (either with speed ie Charles or with power ie Benson)- screens and deep balls (Greg Davis says hi)
-Defense get of the field on 3rd down as we still have the most "talented" 2-deep in the conference and the last two year our offense is the reason our D has looked not as good on paper
- Charlie runs a pretty discipline team (we're no KState but) No penalties, Limit turnovers and get takeaways.
I see us with more 5-8 play drives with little time off the clock and then the D feeding off the scores and trying to help us blow teams out (seriously since Strong has been her our D has stopped many "unstoppable teams and the O let them hang around)
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Did you walk away impressed?
His performance basically let me know there were no "must take" QB's in this draft.
I remember thinking if we hung with the "best QB this year" we'd beat OU, TCU and BU
3-1 the problem was the rest of the games.
I was one of the people who didn't have a problem with Greg Davis's O
I supported Mack wanting to change, but after 2010 and 2011 I could see the high school football writing on the wall : Spread (my personal preference the Rich Rod and Urban Meyer version)
27-37 (with a few drops..1 for a TD) for 268 yards and 3 TDs....Texas came back AFTER the Cal coaches went conservative and tried to kill the clock or it would have been a lot better. Yes he was impressive and well above average. He will go top 15 in the draft for sure.
Thats two part. Its a lack of discipline which comes from coaching. And it is part due to the system they run. When you run a thousand more offensive plays than anyone else, you have the opportunity to have more penalties. Simple.
Not to mention. The QB in question ran a single wing running offense in HS. At a low level of competition. And he still had a lopsided losing record.
Then you thrust his "potential" right in to the lineup thanks to injuries and necessity. And you nailed that the potential was was solely based on tools and needed lots of time to groom. I say give me a QB that is accurate, can read a D, and was a winner in HS...you know what I call realized potential....way before someone with unrealized potential. Or at least give me one of each at the same time so you can properly, slowly groom the guy that needs to learn.
Are you really comparing a few games Colt had as a frosh. Swoopes is a 4th year starter. And still can't complete a basic out pattern with any consistency.
I also don't remember anyone calling Colt "3 and out Colt".
What "good games" are we forgetting from Swoopes:
JR year
Loss to ND he was 7 for 22 for 93 yds
Win vs Rice (Heard took job) he was 1 for 3 for 8 yds
Loss vs TCU he was 5 for 8 for 74 yds
Loss vs ISU he was 6 for 13 for 59 yds
Win vs KU he was 6 for 7 for 98 yds and 1 TD
Loss vs TT he was 9 for 18 for 52 yds and 1 INT
BU he was 12 for 19 for 151 and 1 TD
What an amazing JR year. So full of not good games that we didn't have to forget the good ones. Tell me again how he compares to any of Colts seasons much less his JR year?????
I could go back and show this same story for his SO and FR years, but why bother? You should get the point.
I fully believe our O will be better on scheme alone. And yet if we start the above, we will lose plenty of games. I know its that time of year where hope reigns supreme, but just turn on the tape of any game and get a dose of reality. I really think he's a good kid and hope something amazing happens. I am just not going to expect it. That would be the definition of insanity.
FYI in his career, he has 300+ yd games only 3 times.
And only one of those has he thrown for 300+ yds with at least 2 TDs and also gotten a win for the team (threw for 305 and 2 tds vs OSU his SO yr).
ONCE in 3 years as at least a part time starter. Let that sink in.
And only one of those has he thrown for 300+ yds with at least 2 TDs and also gotten a win for the team (threw for 305 and 2 tds vs OSU his SO yr).
ONCE in 3 years as at least a part time starter. Let that sink in.
He has also never tossed more than 2 TDs in any game in college.....EVER. And the 4 times he has passed for a mere 2 tds in a game, 2 are losses vs OU and UCLA. The wins vs OSU and KU.
I mean c'mon. Have some standards. Not hopes and delusional Aggie dreams of miracles.
I mean c'mon. Have some standards. Not hopes and delusional Aggie dreams of miracles.
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With regard to the deep out. I can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this,,,
"...you hit the slant, post, they will respect you. You hit this pass, they will fear you."...Jason Street
Not just any QB can hit it consistently, even in college. This route separates the men from the boys, the NFL prospect from the future coach.
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For those who've watched the practices in person how has Naashon Hughes and PJ Locke III looked this spring?
I've become a big fan of PJ since last year's Baylor game. That was an old school tackle he put on their qb. Led with the shoulder hit him as hard as you can hit another man. He caused a fumble the old fashioned way bit hitting him instead of tearing the ball out of his hands. Matter of fact that hit took him out of the game.
For those who've watched the practices in person how has Naashon Hughes and PJ Locke III looked this spring?
I've become a big fan of PJ since last year's Baylor game. That was an old school tackle he put on their qb. Led with the shoulder hit him as hard as you can hit another man. He caused a fumble the old fashioned way bit hitting him instead of tearing the ball out of his hands. Matter of fact that hit took him out of the game.
This sounds a whole lot like, "hey, we don't necessarily need a good QB to win". Sure, we can probably win 8 games IF Gilbert can coach Swoopes up into a game manager. We run out of a two back set, with Swoopes as a third running option, and he passes just enough to keep an extra defender out of the box.
If thats where we are as a team, fine, but it is sad that we have settled for this and are even talking about it like its a good thing five months before the first game. Have we just completely given up on having a good QB at Texas? Have we given up on playing for anything meaningful in post season? And by the way, if we go this route, where are we next year? We'll have a redshirt freshman with no playing experience, and a true freshman, as our QB option.
You will note from my post that my emphasis was on false starts/linemen not set. That's 95% the system they run, and 5% discipline. They are running up to the line and snapping as fast as they can. The big boys can't always move as fast as the QB and OC want. The prior poster indicated that there was frustration in the practice due to a multitude of penalties/not able to get into a rhythm.. That's the downside to this offense. It's not "lack of discipline which comes from coaching." Simple.
Yes in Colt McCoy's sophomore slump when everyone was supposedly calling him "3 and out Colt" he still threw for more TDs and yards than Swoopes has in his career. So I don't really see these two having similar trajectories.
Kinda been thinking the same. However...they will probably send him in when the starter falters.
Shane is the prime candidate to red-shirt due to size, etc. However, not giving that luxury he strikes me as a player that may just exceed most expectations.
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He has a lot of time to put on some weight. You'd be surprised how much weight you can over a summer. Just look at Steve Lattimer.
We're not doctors, gentlemen. The NCAA has testing programs for this. Let's let them worry about it. Besides, it's not that hard to put on 35 pounds in a summer if you really hit the gym.
hell....I can put on 35 lbs in less than a week at the buffet.....For Shane, I was hoping for about 20 lbs between now and fall camp.Moorer is a witch and seems like he put more than that on Malik last summer and he MUST have done something with Warren since December, so I think he can do good for Shane. Every coach describes Shane as a gym rat, so lets have Moorer feed him the cheese.
Doc- "well son, how's your knee feeling?"
SB- "uhhh, my knee is fine doc. Nothing wrong here.."
Doc- "you sure you're not feeling any pain at all? Any.. at all... just a little..."
SB- "nope"
Doc- "Great! Then all you need is this cortisone shot....... now get back in the weight room."
SB- "uhhh, my knee is fine doc. Nothing wrong here.."
Doc- "you sure you're not feeling any pain at all? Any.. at all... just a little..."
SB- "nope"
Doc- "Great! Then all you need is this cortisone shot....... now get back in the weight room."
That really was amazing the amount of weight that Malik gained last summer...didn't lose a split second of speed. Still hit a 4.38 forty -- amazing.
I'll bet u guys right now that Shane will put on at least another 10 lbs over the summer.
When u get 18 or 19, your thyroid will slow down a bit but your sex hormones are still raging. You couple that chemical soup with a great weight training regimen and diet . . . well, a couple lbs. of lean muscle each week is possible. But weight training and diet are key.
When u get 18 or 19, your thyroid will slow down a bit but your sex hormones are still raging. You couple that chemical soup with a great weight training regimen and diet . . . well, a couple lbs. of lean muscle each week is possible. But weight training and diet are key.
