Locksley, Merrick, and Buechele. Two aren't getting any reps. Locksley is got to be on transfer watch at this point. Shane appears to be the real deal though. No coach can force anyone to come that's what recruiting is.
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Locksley, Merrick, and Buechele. Two aren't getting any reps. Locksley is got to be on transfer watch at this point. Shane appears to be the real deal though. No coach can force anyone to come that's what recruiting is.
Two projects from Watson. Shane is Sterling' guy now, none of the other kids mean much to me anymore. Best kid plays. Sterling isn't real big on either of them and Kai would not have seen the field had Heard been healthy if an entire game had been played.
Introducing a new offense, new OC , new qb , 2 new starting wr's, young OL in terms of starts. I don't know how you could label that as anything but young? New maybe? It's splitting hairs.
Strong is responsible for Watson's project offers is my point.
The team will be young next year, but also, the team has been young for the last two years. Thats what happens when you essentially write off all of the upperclassmen two years in a row. One could argue that we played upperclassmen last year who should have been passed over. (Johnson, Johnson, Grey). Its not invalid, it just doesn't matter anymore. Strong has to win with the players he has now.
Belldouche, I don't blame you for hoping and praying Texas does the stupid thing and fires strong after year three. Your boys have been punched in the mouth by three bad Texas teams in a row. We're just now about to start turning the corner. Won't be long, and OU will be 1 and 3 against Texas the last four years. Not long after that you'll have an entire team that doesn't know what it's like to beat Texas. That is, unless they fire Strong, killing all recruiting momentum he's built, and basically forcing us to start over. So yeah, you're right to hope he gets fired.
I don't know, because the players weren't young? Call me crazy. My God this country is going to Hell due to idiocy.
So..... using this logic here - Texas IS a young team across the board.... we have a whole new offense with a new OC, a new QB with a couple new starting WR's - some true freshman, a YOUNG o-line with 2 true sophs and a true frosh CENTER... and nobody knows what the QB will do as of now.... so it looks like your own logic just shrunk that elephant in the room down to a mouse.... however that mouse still beat ou last year with considerable less experience and a lack of talent in a few key areas.......... im just saying
See my previous post, then question how you could even try to mock Texas fans for claiming this years team is young...............
Yeah, Mack certainly helped make this mess. But Strong took the long route in fixing it. I do like what he is building. It is thorough and looks to be a strong foundation.
But he could have bridged the gap better.
No one made him rely on Ash. When he came in, he said Swoopes should be moved to TE. And still, here he is playing him at QB.
And no one made him hire Watson. Or retain him after it was clear in year 1 that he sucked. Or force Watson in year 2 to run an offense that neither he or the team was equipped to run. Then transition to Norvell when it was clear Watson was in over his head in installing, game planning, scheming, and running said offense that he had no idea how to run. Nor that he had the players to run effectively.
Just saying. CEOs of major companies can come in and fire everyone and gut the place and take time to rebuild. But it is also possible to slowly gut the place and transition better. Aka when Strong took this job, he and everyone's Grandma knew that we needed any semblance of a QB. Now he didn't have a lot of time that first year and xfers aren't easy. But no excuse for year 2 and 3 to only address it the way he has. That is why we are starting a frosh at QB.
Because for the first time in years, we finally got one guy in a jersey that can actually complete a pass with accuracy.
Now watch everyone blame Mack for the kicking woes this year. (even though it was Strong who neglected it and also took an Aussie rugby punter and no kickers)
But he could have bridged the gap better.
No one made him rely on Ash. When he came in, he said Swoopes should be moved to TE. And still, here he is playing him at QB.
And no one made him hire Watson. Or retain him after it was clear in year 1 that he sucked. Or force Watson in year 2 to run an offense that neither he or the team was equipped to run. Then transition to Norvell when it was clear Watson was in over his head in installing, game planning, scheming, and running said offense that he had no idea how to run. Nor that he had the players to run effectively.
Just saying. CEOs of major companies can come in and fire everyone and gut the place and take time to rebuild. But it is also possible to slowly gut the place and transition better. Aka when Strong took this job, he and everyone's Grandma knew that we needed any semblance of a QB. Now he didn't have a lot of time that first year and xfers aren't easy. But no excuse for year 2 and 3 to only address it the way he has. That is why we are starting a frosh at QB.
Because for the first time in years, we finally got one guy in a jersey that can actually complete a pass with accuracy.
Now watch everyone blame Mack for the kicking woes this year. (even though it was Strong who neglected it and also took an Aussie rugby punter and no kickers)
I'm fine with that and agree. Strong doesn't coach QB's and yes he's responsible for the entire team, but he has to trust his staff....I'm glad he gave Sterling the keys to this ride.
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I count four starting upperclassmen on defense; Ford, Boyette, Cottrell, and Haines.
For Offense; Bluiett, Perkins, Nickerson, Foremans.
Everyone else will be underclassmen. Mack's talent choices sucked which is why he no longer has a hc job
For Offense; Bluiett, Perkins, Nickerson, Foremans.
Everyone else will be underclassmen. Mack's talent choices sucked which is why he no longer has a hc job
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Sooners protesting "youth" aside, its really irrelevant at this point. Its not an excuse anymore. at least 3/4 of the team are his recruits now, young or not. Its time for him to win, or move on. The scary thing is, he may have gotten the QB recruiting right this cycle, but is anyone really SURE that he is going to play him? His presser definitely had the feel of someone defending Swoopes. Its not clear in his mind yet that he can't start Swoopes. Hopefully Buchele continues to separate himself in practice.
I don't think that'll be an issue for SB. That's basically what he's been doing since January, even with classes to worry about.
He had to defend Swoopes as he needs to keep him happy and on campus. But Strong was gushing over Buechele. While defending is a good choice of words for what he said about Swoopes.
It blows my mind that you're still allowed to troll and derail threads here.
If it was Strong's third class on campus this fall I'd agree but with how the powers that be handled the transition the '16 class is Strong's second class.
In my book I don't care. Strong needs to develop some players he didn't recruit. Every other coach that takes over a program has to do the same. He doesn't get any more mulligan seasons it's time to win some games.
You have a bad habit of thinking that a coach reveals all of his actual thoughts and plans whenever he opens his mouth in a PC or interview. How on earth would you know what is or isn't "clear in Strong's mind"?
People closely connected to the program and coaches, like Higdon, have repeatedly said that the coaches don't want to declare the competition decided because they want all QBs to keep pushing each other. That doesn't mean that they're not completely aware that Buechele is the clear best QB. Coaches have to prepare to play with more than one QB in a season, especially if they're going to start a skinny true freshman. Please explain how it would be a smart move at this point for Strong to essentially tell Swoopes and Heard, "Sorry fellas, but, barring injury to Shane, you're basically just fetching me Gatorade this year."
Forget the trolling. You should be banned for abject stupidity.
Let's put it this way...Sterling talks about Shane....a lot and it didn't start on Saturday. No reason to go public.
I'll be very, very surprised if you see anything approaching a significant number of people blaming Mack for kicking woes in year three.
B.S. Most coaches get 4 years as ADs and the football men get that it takes that long to get your guys in for your system and for them and their bodies to mature. The one and two year turn arounds only happen when there is already talent and it is all coaching issues. We've seen from the draft(and on the field) that there was little talent.
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Yep someone looks at Strong's tenure at Texas to date and says " Now that guy knows what he's doing" and as evidence points to his win loss record, 3rd OC in as many years etc. Those are just pointing out the obvious. Stop crying about trolling darlin'.
Most coaches get 4 years to post a winning record?
Bubba gets it. Some of you guys act like Charlie is bringing in guys that have never seen a football before and he needs a full 4 years to teach them the game.
None of which is what you said in the spectacularly idiotic post I quoted.
Oh, don't worry about me. Just keep doing your obnoxious thing. One of these days your act will finally wear too thin over here.
To get their guys and system established.
As most know I consider 2016 Strong's real second season from how poorly the powers that be handled the coaching transition.
I don't have playoff by year 3 or your out expectations. And he wasted his first 2 years of establishing a system on Watson/Wickline. That was 100% his fault, and don't give me we wouldn't buyout Morris' contract because no other head coach gets millions of dollars to buy an OC. If he's a top coach, and he's certainly paid like one, he doesn't need 4+ years to have an 8 win season.
They weren't winning more than 7 games in either of the first 2 years and yet, they were close to breaking through at times with the QB succession and poor OL depth. The first year had upper class stars on defense which fell off in year 2 due to lack of depth. Mack had the roster in a bad spot at several positions, DT is one of them. It's a 4 year project for most coaches, very seldom do coaches walk in and turn it around in year 2. The Nick Saban' and Urban Meyer' of the world are few and far between. He (Strong) wasn't simply flipping a roster through this process, he was changing the culture of the program.
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