It's documented that there can be rare side effects but using the phrase "gene therapy" makes you lose all credibility. Your not a doctor, quit trying to act like one.
Biden fear mongering Covid hoax No. 2
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Of course it can still spread but the chances are decreased when you're vaccinated which in turn slows the spread which in turn also decreases the chances of the virus mutating.
And adhering to the statist liberal government dictates make you look like a goose stepping d1ck sucking commie fvcktard. Here's your doctor.... from the Mayo Clinic you sh1t for brains.
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Good for Reddit they understand how free speech is supposed to work
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/tech/reddit-misinformation-covid/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/tech/reddit-misinformation-covid/index.html
Dude, are you ok?
What I don't get is why some people go out of their way to try and convince strangers on the internet of what medications they should take and act like they are some sort of authority. Why do you care who takes the vaccine? I chose to listen to my physician who I 100% trust is not part of a big pharma conspiracy to kill everyone. Take the shot or not, I don't care. By the way, I guess you ignore all the doctors who think it's safe.
You truly are lacking in brain cells. It's experimental. What don't you understand? Step away from cnn for a second and think for yourself. I'm no one's guinea pig, you got that? Maybe you like to be first in line for the kick in the balls contest but not me. I don't care if you die because you like the red koolaid but I do if I or a family member does because some money grubbing asswipe wants to inject their experimental toxins into my arm for a few bucks.
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I'll be a civil and frank as I can--
Until the US government removes the liability shield they've given all the drug companies, I will not take the shot.
Natural immunity is always better than synthetic bullsh1t.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
Source.... Libtards, make sure you read the paper before talking out of your back side.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
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Here you go, @Belldozer1 . I thought you would enjoy this (if you haven't already seen it). I remember a while back you were joking about the mask wearers while driving
And I completely understand that 100%. It should be ones choice absolutely. I think the thing that has turned people against the vaccine so much is the fact they are trying to push it on everybody. I just want to make it clear i'm not trying to sway anybody's stance, i'm just simply giving my story on what changed my mind.
Read it on the internet so it must be true right. I'll form my opinions from the medical experts I have reached out to on this one. And like I said before i'm not a liberal.
And I understand where you're coming from as well. My brother was down for two weeks. Got so dehydrated that he needed a saline drip. And if you knew my brother, you'd know he fvcking HATES needles..... so I knew this was serious. But it's no mystery that with the rushed development of this vaccine, the drug companies went to the government and said "look, this may be possible to do in such a short time line, but juuuuuuuust in case we fvck this up, we're going to need some liability protection" and the government granted it to them.
Once the liability shield is removed, it will be the "bat signal" that let's you know the drug companies are fully confident in their work.
The FDA just fully approved the Pfizer vaccine a couple of days ago for ages 16 and up. I got my first shot 2 weeks ago and went with the Pfizer one just because I had heard it was the closest to being approved. It's just like anything in medicine though people are still going to have adverse reactions as medicine is never a one size fits all type of deal.
Personally, I don’t hold up the FDA approval as anything special or a stamp that it is as safe as other vaccines that have gone through years of clinical trials. It was a bureaucratic approval, not a medically-driven approval. After all, if it was not FDA approved, what’s the alternative? Suck the vaccine out of the 170 million that have already taken it?
This isn’t an anti vaccine position; simply a recognition of the lack of significance of the FDA approval. Just my opinion.
My physician says all the vaccines are not nearly as effective as natural immunity. The effectiveness of the vaccine deteriorates after 6-7 months whereas natural immunity lasts two to three times longer. That’s why we’re now seeing so many new infections among vaccinated people. I would rather get the infection and develop natural immunity. The chances of dying from either the infection or the vaccine are about the same.
While that is true, mRNA vaccines have been studied and researched for years. Like I said previously medicine is never a one size fits all thing and with that everybody is going to have different reactions to different medicines. I spoke and consulted with a couple different medical professionals before I got the shot. I was extremely skeptical myself.
The only thing about natural immunity is it doesn't stop the virus from mutating. But yes natural immunity is always better.
You know it’s funny and damn alarming reading that CNN article about wanting to make the unvaccinated pay additional insurance costs etc for “putting other lives at risk”and comparing it to how cigarette smokers did the same until they banned smoking in restaurants etc. If I recall smoking was allowed in restaurants, bars etc for years upon years before any laws were in acted but these Jack leg, knee jerk, political weenies want to take action right now against unvaccinated folks. I wonder if immigrants fall under the same scrutiny?Here you go, @Belldozer1 . I thought you would enjoy this (if you haven't already seen it). I remember a while back you were joking about the mask wearers while driving
Those of you that "get it" will get this.
This guy reminds me of the fvcking 9.95er deuche bags that pop in here.
This is excellent news! No one in their right mind would think that it's a bad thing for natural immunity to be stronger and better than the shot. I'm team natural immunity, I just wish you didn't have to catch COVID to get it.
In fairness the vaccine doesn't stop it from mutating either. Virus's will select for the mutations that are successful, it doesn't matter if it is in unvaccinated hosts or not. If it can still replicate it will mutate around whatever is blocking it eventually.
Yes it was put on a fast track to get approval, but the 170 million sets of data that they have now is far larger than they ever had for any other drug in history. There is no long term data, I'll give you that.
This has to be a joke right? There’s no way someone’s life and thinking is that f’d up.
Although, his suggestion for a “Johnson and Johnson” promotion for the gay community was pretty funny.
What’s even funnier, is imagining those 9.95ers watching this going, “preach brother!” Lol
Sig Ep for sure. Reminds me of every investment banker I know.
Well, my girl got covid in May of last year. I got covid in May of last year. We both did a blood test Wed. We both still have anti-bodies. 16 months in-- and my natural immunity is doing quite well.
I’ll share my story. I’m 6’0, 210ish former college football player and former lower level professional mma fighter. I workout and train 4-5 days a week and keep my diet fairly decent. I’m 41 with 4 kids and am no David Goggins but still train hard and take care of myself and am in pretty good shape for my stage of life.
I was on a business trip (related to the vaccine ironically) and was in a meeting with a colleague and client that were all vaccinated. I was the only one not. We had to wear masks and distance per their policy. The next day I get a call from my colleague saying he started feeling bad on the flight home and tested positive for Covid. I kept my distance from folks and worked from home for a week.
A week later I didn’t sleep well and woke up with a headache. I napped the next day and felt better but that night I had 100.5 fever. Other than that, no symptoms. Slept it off and kicked the fever the next day. No further symptoms for a couple of days then I got a little chest congestion. On day 5 I woke up with no smell. I felt something everyday but it was less than what I would feel with a cold. But it lingered. I called teledoc to get ivermectin to shorten the symptoms and they said they would not prescribe it due to not being approved by the FDA. I asked if they recommended the vaccine moving forward and they emphatically said yes. I asked if they saw the irony in that (at the time none of the vaccines were approved).
Fast forward and 10 days in I test negative. Day 11 negative again. I’m now free to move about the cabin. But my smell was still touch and go and my chest congestion was still hanging around. Nothing worse than a slight cold but lingering and annoying when training. My vaxed buddy was hurting for almost 4 weeks but he has some health issues. Not obese but not really healthy.
Day 11 the wife tests positive. We go to our physician who put us both on z packs, ivermectin and Lipitor along with c, zinc, d and Pepcid. I told him I was good since I was negative and he said the nagging symptoms could linger for another 4-6 weeks, but we can treat it and it’ll be gone In 5 days.
He also asked if we were vaccinated and when we said no his response was, “well you are now.” He recommended the vax especially for high risk folks, but was adamant that this disease is very treatable. The problem is that doctors were not treating it but rather sending positive patients home to wait it out. He’s had great success treating it.
Long story summarized…the bug wasn’t bad for me or the wife. More of annoyance. The kids never got it. Masks are shit. This thing is highly contagious and we are all getting it. If you feel that getting vaccinated is the right choice then go get you some. If you don’t, don’t. Either way, worry about yourself not me. Treatment for me knocked the annoyance out lickedy split and both of our prescriptions were less than $60 combined (odd they haven’t been treating more but rather opting for hospitalization to begin treating - could it be the $ invovled?).
Lastly, this business model by big pharma is amazing. No liability. Put the world on a subscription plan and now getting companies to mandate it. I smell a rat.
I was on a business trip (related to the vaccine ironically) and was in a meeting with a colleague and client that were all vaccinated. I was the only one not. We had to wear masks and distance per their policy. The next day I get a call from my colleague saying he started feeling bad on the flight home and tested positive for Covid. I kept my distance from folks and worked from home for a week.
A week later I didn’t sleep well and woke up with a headache. I napped the next day and felt better but that night I had 100.5 fever. Other than that, no symptoms. Slept it off and kicked the fever the next day. No further symptoms for a couple of days then I got a little chest congestion. On day 5 I woke up with no smell. I felt something everyday but it was less than what I would feel with a cold. But it lingered. I called teledoc to get ivermectin to shorten the symptoms and they said they would not prescribe it due to not being approved by the FDA. I asked if they recommended the vaccine moving forward and they emphatically said yes. I asked if they saw the irony in that (at the time none of the vaccines were approved).
Fast forward and 10 days in I test negative. Day 11 negative again. I’m now free to move about the cabin. But my smell was still touch and go and my chest congestion was still hanging around. Nothing worse than a slight cold but lingering and annoying when training. My vaxed buddy was hurting for almost 4 weeks but he has some health issues. Not obese but not really healthy.
Day 11 the wife tests positive. We go to our physician who put us both on z packs, ivermectin and Lipitor along with c, zinc, d and Pepcid. I told him I was good since I was negative and he said the nagging symptoms could linger for another 4-6 weeks, but we can treat it and it’ll be gone In 5 days.
He also asked if we were vaccinated and when we said no his response was, “well you are now.” He recommended the vax especially for high risk folks, but was adamant that this disease is very treatable. The problem is that doctors were not treating it but rather sending positive patients home to wait it out. He’s had great success treating it.
Long story summarized…the bug wasn’t bad for me or the wife. More of annoyance. The kids never got it. Masks are shit. This thing is highly contagious and we are all getting it. If you feel that getting vaccinated is the right choice then go get you some. If you don’t, don’t. Either way, worry about yourself not me. Treatment for me knocked the annoyance out lickedy split and both of our prescriptions were less than $60 combined (odd they haven’t been treating more but rather opting for hospitalization to begin treating - could it be the $ invovled?).
Lastly, this business model by big pharma is amazing. No liability. Put the world on a subscription plan and now getting companies to mandate it. I smell a rat.
