Problem is if he was watching the wrong player he would never ever admit it.
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Yea, those 2 Mack Brown 13 win seasons, the 12 win season, the three 11 win seasons and three 10 win seasons really sucked. He never developed any players. And all those NFL players from his era could have made the league right out of high school. Zero development
I probably should have clarified that he didn't develop them more then he should have. Since Rivals started there rankings in 2002, Mack pulled in twenty 5-star players.
Take a look at the odds of 5-star players making the NFL and look at how many of his didn't make it or were out of the league pretty quickly.
How were his last 4 seasons when he didn't have two of the best college QBs of our generation playing for him? He was still bringing in a crapload of talent.
2009 #5 ranking
2010 #3 ranking
2011 #3 ranking
2012 #2 ranking
Not trying to bash Mack but I just think Herman's ceiling is going to be on another level with what he is building. If you can recruit at an elite level and develop at that same elite level if not better then you become Saban and Meyer.
In a 10-year stretch give Herman seven top 5 recruiting classes and 20 5-star players and we are winning more than two Big 12 titles and producing a higher % NFL players.
Give him Chris Simms, VY, and Colt Mccoy at QB for 11 years during that stretch and your odds are even higher.
Sorry, just my personal opinion but Texas should have won a crap more MNCs and Big 12 titles at the elite level Mack was recruiting at.
My point not to derail this thread is for the first time ever I honestly don't care as much about rankings as I used too.
Explain the Roschon Johnson ranking then please. #48 in the state is down right laughable and a fireable offense.
This thread is kinda sad. The guy evaluated him, and walked away a bit underwhelmed based on the one game he saw. Disagree with him if you like, but he gave you his honest opinion.
Not every opinion of our recruits has to be “he’s the best ever and looked incredible”. I trust our staff and their evaluations, but I still would prefer to hear people’s honest opinions, whether positive or negative. I can decide for myself how much or little stock to put into them. It’s just a data point. Everyone is so defensive.
Not every opinion of our recruits has to be “he’s the best ever and looked incredible”. I trust our staff and their evaluations, but I still would prefer to hear people’s honest opinions, whether positive or negative. I can decide for myself how much or little stock to put into them. It’s just a data point. Everyone is so defensive.
Jordan Whittington was moved down from 22 to 31 in the latest Rivals Rankings. Tyler Johnson was moved down from 76 to 78.
However 3 Auburn recruits were recently given a 5th star.
However 3 Auburn recruits were recently given a 5th star.
The issue is consistency, which has always been lacking. Do they move all recruits based on one game?
We are now being told in this instance that game footage is more important that previous camp performance. But for other recent movements it was because their camp performance was better than previous game footage.
It’s only a no win situation when you paint yourself into that corner.
We’re not being told anything about what’s more important. The guy watched a game and told us what he thought about that game, and then gave us an article with quotes from the kid.
That’s about it. And then everyone here got a massive case of feelings about a rankings drop that may or may not even happen in the future and really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.
Why does anyone care about rivals ranking. I think the Texas staff is a better evaluator of talent than guys writing about them.
Don’t know but we “should” all know by now that some players appear great when playing with a dominant team. Vice versa.
Truth here...there are some things to be concerned about with Herman, but player development and eval is not one of them.
We are told what is more important every year. See recent thread on top 100 list update where we were told that recent camps trumped game tape. Again, they pick and choose what data points are relevant to support their conclusions. Of course they will never admit that, but it’s obvious to most.
I don’t have a “case of feelings” about the where the rankings fall out. It’s the people doing the rankings trying to act as if they have some fool proof, unbiased system that bothers people.
Again. What was the conclusion from what the guy posted? Where did he say that the game tape is more important than camps. He literally just told you what he saw in the game. I didn't see any corresponding move in a ranking, or any explanation that the game was going to be a reason for doing so in the future.
Would you prefer that the guy not tell you his impressions from the game? All of this other stuff about systems and rankings and camps vs. games, etc., is projection. The guy literally just told you about a game that he saw. That's all he said. Do we not want that info here?
P.S. - I thought this board consistently complains that games DON'T count, and camps count too much, so I guess now I'm confused.
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