Going to become an issue here: Big 12 locked out of playoff by preseason hype of $ec and ACC

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  1. 2300 Nueces

    2300 Nueces Well-Known Member
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    The loss to maryland is going to be huge. We are going to need help but first we have to win out. Can anyone imagine a 12-1 Texas team being left out of the playoff? I can. We are hated by others for what we have. A 1-2 loss team from the $ec (jawja) will get in before us. Book it. Clemson's toughest game will have been aggy.... we win that pretty easy.

    I will add that the Pac 12 is out again. Including ND, the ACC has 2 - Clemson & ND. That is the weakest conference imaginable. $ec - 2, B1g- tosu. One of these is out and we are behind them at 12-1, if we get that far. Can you imagine the turmoil?


    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/10-tak...lege-football-playoff-saturday-053603875.html
     
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  2. Metcalf #2

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    Way too early to talk playoff. I'd be fine with going 12-1 and no playoff anyway. Just to win the Big 12, or even be in the Big 12 championship game, would be above and beyond our expectations for this year. That would be huge recruiting boon and springboard into next season. Then we can realistically talk playoff. This year, I don't think we deserve it if there's 4 unbeatens, or one loss teams that didn't lose to a patsy.

    One step at a time.
     
  3. outhereincali

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    I'm not certain about a lot of things but I'm certain that the Golden Domers will not be in the playoffs.
     
  4. LongfellowDrew

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    Wow we’re talking 12-1 now. LOL! This board goes from hating 4-1 a week ago to loving 5-1 and now talking about 12-1. :confused:
     
  5. Metcalf #2

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    I'm not talking 12-1. Which is why I said that would be way above expectations.
     
  6. 2300 Nueces

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    Goodness ya'll are dense. Look down the road. Is it realistic to go undefeated in the Big 12 every year? If not, you're not good enough for the playoff..... Do you have to be undefeated from the $ec or b1g to make the playoff, no. These pos schools come to our state to recruit our players, yes, and they hold f*cking camps here, play neutral site games and all that crap. What do they do for us, not a f*cking thang. I surely hope CDC is thinking on all the ways we can squeeeeze every last cent out of these carpet baggers. This includes blou. Don't accept sloppy seconds from the yankees up north or on the east coast.

    I hope CDC is doing his homework. If cord cutting and streaming are going to be the future, we have already laid the groundwork with the LHN. We could tell the networks....(these are really the people f*cking us) to pound sand. Can you imagine the strength the university would have if we had a decent LHN product and millions of subscribers (divorced from all networks) with ad revenue? It would be off the chart. We would call all of the shots.

    If they want to televise our games individually, make them pay double and still stream on LHN.

    This is why everyone hates us.... We could pull this off if we had the balls to do it.

    At the very least, even the thought of this should provide huge leverage against the biased yankees from the north and east coast.

    So to summarize, the Big 12 champ gets in or we cut your asses off.
     
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  7. clob94

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    If they win out I can %10000000 promise you they will get in.
     
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    Alabama, Notre Dame or Clemson, Georgia, & Ohio State will be in the CFB playoffs. Book it.
     
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  9. mm42

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    How can you be so sure? Somebody from the BIG10 (likely OSU) is in, Clemson ain't getting beat twice and they are in, and Alabama is winning 15 games this year. I pity the 4 seed.

    This would leave one loss Texas (who lost to Maryland), one loss Georgia (who lost to Bama), and one loss or no loss Notre Dame. You might get in with this scenario, but I really doubt it. You need to win out and get some help.
     
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    This is the greatest idea I have ever heard and I 100% support going for it. I think the other conferences would surely give in to this threat.
     
  11. GuaranteedFresh!

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    He was referring to ND, not Texas.

    Honestly, I would kinda prefer to be on the outside this year even if we do win out. Anything is possible but I don't feel we're complete enough to make a run against Bama, Georgia, Clemson, or Ohio St just yet.
    Until then, we need undivided attention to each and every successive opponent with the conf championship as our goal.

    That's the only achievable goal that we have control over. The rest will work itself out.
     
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  12. 2300 Nueces

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    I think Clob was referring to ND and not Texas. An undefeated ND gets in over a 1 loss Texas. I'll go one better, a 1 loss ND gets in over a 1 loss Texas and it's crap.
     
  13. mm42

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    Ok. Then I agree. Sorry
     
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    Well clob94 of course if they win out they're in. You can say that about all the undefeated teams. Golly I'm not that dumb.
     
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    Thank you. I would also add that TAMU should start thinking about doing the same thing. In 5-10 years these networks could be so weak that future contract offerings may only be a shell of what we have now. Those that aren't prepared or have no fan base will be left behind. I think this is how we get to MM's super conference or some derivative.
     
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    I wasn't accusing you of being dumb....... but in all fairness, you do live in california.... so there's that....=)roll
     
  17. speedstrength

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    Lots of football left to be played. PAC is most likely out. Washington loss to Auburn, Stanford loss to ND and most likely SC loss to ND. That leaves SEC, ACC, Big 12, B1G and ND. 5 slots for 4 teams. If Bama and Georgia both make it to the title game SEC gets 1. Ohio State isn't a world beater this year but I don't see who could take them down so they are in unless Michigan pulls off the upset and keeps them out of the title game. Clemson is a question mark. ACC is down this year. They need to run the table to get in. Big 12 still has a shot. 1 loss Big 12 teams have made it in but the ND could be spoiler this year. They could run the table with beat downs of Michigan, Stanford and Va Tech and they could finish the season with a beat down of SC on the road. If they run the table they are most likely in given their resume. So you are left with Big 12, Big 10, and ACC for the last 2 spots. If Ohio State and Clemson and ND run the table then they are in.
     
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    If Georgia only gets beat by Alabama by a couple scores, they may sneak in. But I don't think they keep it close (I don't think anybody does). If they play Alabama really close and ND, OSU, and Clemson win out it will be fun watching the fight. Love it when people are mad at the end.
     
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    WE still got 2 or 3 that's good, and its like Hunting Ducks, only these 3 ducks shoot back at ya! IState, WV, now that we beat OU everyone's gonna want our butts even more than before, we still go to Stillwater and Lubbock, Thank god we play WV and IState here


    Hook'em
     
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    You don't have to tell me that. I'm sitting back just thinking about the next game and I'm pretty sure most on the board didn't think we'd be 5-1 before we played Maryland and definitely after. We can beat every team on the schedule but that doesn't mean we will.
     
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    Agreed. Notre Dame is in if they win out. It won’t be much of a discussion.
     
  22. Metcalf #2

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    And who cares? It'll be entertaining watching the Domers get jackhammered in the playoff. Always fun watching a fraud get exposed.
     
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    Watching Brian Kelly's face turn maroon is funny to me. Don't like that guy.

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    Agreed but I do think their defense can keep them in any game besides Alabama.
     
  25. DrinkToIt

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    If Georgia beats Bama by 3 or 7, then they both get in with ND. That should piss enough people off the make it 8 teams.
     
  26. LonghornMM

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    Notre Dame getting in the CFP is as bad as the $EC getting two teams in. Barf! :mad:

    Hopefully LSU beats Georgia this weekend and somehow Auburn beats Bama. One $EC team in is good enough.
     
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    The playoff should have been set up with 8 teams from the beginning. Not sure what they were thinking when they made it only 4 teams.
     
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    At least 6. Have the top 2 get byes. The 7th ranked team not getting in won't be as salty as #5 out in the cold.
     
  29. SwagCopter

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    Well, and that 5th is usually a conference winner not getting in which adds a little more salt to that wound. I was wondering IF LSU would have beaten Florida and barely lost to Alabama, then Georgia won out and barely lost to Alabama in SEC championship game what would have happened? I know they wouldn’t have but I feel Georgia would be in and LSU would have been in the discussion. THAT would have reallly been pissing people off. Now what if LSU ran the table and beats Bama and gets in SEC championship game and Bama only has 1 loss?? Who all is getting in? I just wish ultimate chaos would happen to blow this 4 teams crap up.
     
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    I agree with this. I get putting the best four teams in the CFP, but having more than one team in from a conference sucks. No one outside of $EC fan wants to see this happening. That sucked donkey balls having Alabama and Georgia in the national championship game last year.
     
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    Metcalf....what is going on?...apart from Mike Tyson I have always agreed with you....but I am not quite with you here. If Texas wins out, then damned right they are good enough to be at the big dance....just not if there are 4 undefeateds not named CFU in front of us. If there are only 1 or 2 undefeated teams, then I dont care if we lost to Maryland U or Maryland Monroe, we deserve it just as much as the next guy...

    and another thing...I am amazed at how smart 2300 Nueces sounds when he says stuff I agree with...
     
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    what is this .".Barely lost" crap?...that only matters in College Station

    What do yall have for your record books?

    _W......... L ....... BL

    2 ......... 0 ........ 2


    One of only 7 teams with no losses this year.....advantage aggy,,,,Whoop!
     
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    Not sure committee would put Texas in. Lots of football to be played. From here you MIGHT need help. You need Notre Dame, Ohio St, or Clemson to lose. I think you would agree with that. If one of them loses it depends on who they lose to. You need TCU to keep winning. You need USC to keep winning. Really you need Maryland to do well to minimize that loss.
     
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    minimize losses?.....that is aggy even for aggy....do yall make this stuff up or do you have group think tanks?
     
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    Right now WV has the best shot for the big 12 to get in but the game they cancelled due to Florence is huge. They have to run the table. I haven't watched them play all year so I don't know how realistic that is.
     
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    It's not just the record that matters, but how everyone looks in those last several games. Ohio State in 2014 lost an ugly game early but they came storming back and earned their slot. So it all depends on those final 5 or 6 options and the optics. If we go undefeated AND we beat a really good OU/TCU/WVU *again* in a big and convincing Big XII championship win, then I think we would definitely get put into the playoff. However, I agree with others who have said I don't think we are there yet. This team still has some growing to do, and even being in Big XII contention and final top 10 ranking and making a NY6 game would be astronomically huge for us. My guess is we end up 10-2 and play in the Big XII champ game against OU or WVU and then play in a NY6 game.

    Ohio State or Penn State will need to win impressive fashion in their conference championship game. Clemson hasn't looked that great. Alabama and Georgia will be interesting to see what happens there. Notre Dame probably will make it in. It all depends on the optics.
     
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    I don’t trust Texas winning out. However, if we do it will include wins over USC, TCU, OU or WVU twice and a few other bowl teams (ISU, OkSt, either Tech or Baylor). Despite losing to Maryland I don’t think many teams will be able to point to such a schedule. And it’s Texas...like or agree with the bias it is there.

    Now here is what I think

    Baylor is a dangerous team. They have an offense that could take advantage of a defense lacking intensity. Ultimately Texas wins by 10-14

    @OkSt. Is never a fun trip. Fans are rowdy and oSu can put up points. They force turnovers at home as well. I think Texas protects the ball and wins a close one 6-10 points.

    WVU at home. Texas and the fans will not have a problem getting up for this game. Texas’ secondary will be up for the challenge and Texas will dominate the LOS. Texas wins by 14-17.

    @Tech. Coaching for his life if the fans show up this will be a tough one. I think Tech is 4-5 coming into this game and will be inspired. Texas has trouble running the ball and loses the turnovers trying to sleep walk through the game. Tech wins by a FG.

    Iowa State at home. Two tough defenses. Texas regroups and handles ISU at the LOS. Winning the turnovers Texas wins by 14-17 in a relatively low scoring game.

    @Kansas. Texas needs a win to get to the CCG and will be focused. But gracious, is there anything worse than playing at 11am on the road in front of 15k fans? Texas wins by 24

    CCG vs. OU. OU is better on D and Kyler Murray doesn’t turn the ball over. OU wins by 10.

    That puts Texas at 10-3 with a probable Fiesta Bowl vs. a mid major. 11-3 and hammer recruiting. Next 4-5 years set up for legitimate run at CFP
     
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    the oldest axiom in college football is this:

    early loss > late loss
     
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    You took that wrong. I’m not talking from an Aggie perspective. I’m a football fan. If Georgia barely loses to Alabama, it’s a better loss than the Texas loss to Maryland. The committee looks at that. It sucks for other conferences but it has been that committee motto that they want the best teams in and not just conference winners.
     
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    UCF anyone? They did get a national title parade last year, and have the current longest winning streak.
     

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