Here is my 3 doable plan B coaches

Sark is the only one we should look at right now.

It’s either him or a guy like Venables or an OC/DC that is highly regarded and super successfully at either the NFL or P5 college level. It NFL they need to have college experience and be fairly young.
 
At this point, if we are still committed to making a change, which I’m not sure is the case, you do a search. Thoroughly.

Not just names we are familiar with, but someone who understands the program and the culture. Mack was the best at this. The culture may have changed a little bit, but there will be someone out there who fits. Search firm can help, but should not be the only ones doing work.

One thing Deloss Dodds had going for him is he had been here like 15 years, through some strong years and lean years in football (and basketball). He was a businessman, but also understood the environment.

I think it also helps that he wasn’t a football guy by trade. I think that allowed him to evaluate things a little more critically.

CDC will have to put in some work, and lean heavily on a number of sources. And say what you want about Plonsky, but she should have some input here too.
you were rolling until you said Plonsky...
 
I'd like to get one of the top 5 baddest assistants(provided that he's a good recruiter too) in the country and support him with a killer staff. It's worked for numerous other schools including our arch rival. Just find the right guy. This is where expertise in picking coaches comes in. Do we have that?
No...No we don’t....
 
Mullen
Sarkisian
Traylor
Campbell (not completely sold)
Fickell

I have a friend in San Antonio who is no fan of the Longhorns. He is an Ohio St fan and we had been talking back and forth about Urban. He can see many of the coaching and cultural issues the Longhorns currently face. He actually asked me about thinking outside the box and hiring Jeff Traylor. I think he is a fine coach, but he doesn't have the experience and skins on the wall to be considered for a job as big as Texas.

Venables
Fickell

No on Fickle, but Venables is an excellent coach who never seems to get enough mention as a potential HC.

We definitely need to put together an offer and go make all of the elite coaches in the country tell us no. You don't know the answer if you never ask the question.

Then you move down to your next tier of coaches who are good who you feel could be great with the resources Texas has to offer.
 
Home Run Hires:

Kyle Shanahan - Has Texas ties, young, offensive minded. Everything that Lincoln Riley is but with Pro experience. Offer him 10 years 120 Million

Matt Rhule - Coached in the Big 12, won in the big 12 has pro experience

Dan Mullen - From the SEC and from the Urban Meyer coaching tree, although that does worry me.

As I sit here and think about Kyle Shanahan is the guy I go after and throw a bigger salary than I did at Meyer.
:rolleyes: on Shanahan..
Why would Mullen leave Florida who is in the playoff hunt to come here and do a rebuild,Plus he has a big buyout on top of what we have to pay Herman
 
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Cristobal, close the borders. Elite recruiter, surround him with the best. That’s the Mack formula
Sorry. Cristobal is not the answer. Besides a head coach isn’t the main recruiter. Our assistants need to be badass recruiters, not the head coach.
 
Shit, lets just give Mack the swan song he deserved for a couple of years; just to get rid of Herman. Hire Harrell as the OC/Assistance Head Coach.
 
I would be happy with any of

Cristobal
PJ Fleck
Matt Campbell.
Campbell is the only stomachable one.

Fleck is a bit. The schtick dries out quickly.
Cristobal is not doing himself any favors losing to terrible teams like Cal and Oregon state.

Fickell and Campbell need to be the first options of tier 2.

If we get down to Hugh freeze, venables, Cristobal were really grasping at straws.
Herman returning is a sad reality we have to really consider.
 
Cris.........topher Columbus
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If Urban is a no, the best coach left out there is Art Briles. He took the blame for Baylor, paid the price. You want to win, hire
 
The truth is, for whatever reason, just about any hotshot coach brought in from the outside, struggles to get a foothold in the B12. Either the speed of the game, or they install a defense they thought would work, but doesn't, or they don't recruit well enough....Matt Campbell has been through it all, and he has put together one of the best progtams in the conference. If we don't get an Urban, Matt Campbell would be much better than what we have. When we jumped up on ISU, a buddy of mine who is an ISU grad, texted me "Damn, I knew we would blow this game to you all....." I texted him back.."Watch your coaches. They won't panic. They will keep being who they are, and who they want to be. They will run the ball and hit those bookend TEs." And that is exactly what they did. Campbell would be an immediate upgrade.
 
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u do remember what Baylor was before he got there. He’s elite.
I remember who they were. I also remember he never won a NYE Bowl. and he lost 2x to Charlie Strong. No one said he wasn't a good coach. But elite? I'd tap the brakes, and we would NEVER hire him.
 
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I remember who they were. I also remember he never won a NYE Bowl. and he lost 2x to Charlie Strong. No one said he wasn't a good coach. But elite? I'd tap the brakes, and we would NEVER hire him.
I’d never advocate hiring him. He’s a pos.
No one should EVER hire him yet Mt. Vernon did and he’s gonna win a state title. Then in the near future he’s gonna get a college gig. Why you may ask? Because he’s elite. And he will probably beat whatever coach we have 50% of the time...if not more. He’s a Texas coaching legend who should be tar and feathered.
but hey I though Tom would succeed so I obviously don’t know shit. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I would be happy with any of

Cristobal
PJ Fleck
Matt Campbell.
Add Hugh Freeze to that list also,he's probably the best of the bunch even with the baggage.

Also Has it been proven for real that Stoopsie has no interest? Yes I know he's a lifetime Gooner.
 
Other than making a bunch of money, a coach has to be crazy to come to UT. The fans will never appreciate you. They will immediately begin destroying your career. You better get enough money that you never have to work again.

Mack Brown was revered here, right up until he went into a deep funk and his Lazy-Boy recliner following the 2009 season.
 
Home Run Hires:

Kyle Shanahan - Has Texas ties, young, offensive minded. Everything that Lincoln Riley is but with Pro experience. Offer him 10 years 120 Million

Matt Rhule - Coached in the Big 12, won in the big 12 has pro experience

Dan Mullen - From the SEC and from the Urban Meyer coaching tree, although that does worry me.

As I sit here and think about Kyle Shanahan is the guy I go after and throw a bigger salary than I did at Meyer.
I don't think any of those guys want to leave their current situation.
 
I just have to laugh at everyone that poopoos any of these guys. Who in the hell is out there to go get that doesn’t have something bad on the resume. Saban, Dabo, Day, and Riley aren’t coming here. The rest of the bunch are the same guy for all practical purposes.
 
A Mike Gundy
1. Luke Fickell
2. Matt Campbell
3. Brent Venables