Well look at the numbers...
Australia - 900 deaths out of 25,000,000= .000036
USA- 300,000 deaths out of 330,000,000= .00091
.00091/.000036 = 25
Ivermectin kills Covid?
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Well look at the numbers...
Australia - 900 deaths out of 25,000,000= .000036
USA- 300,000 deaths out of 330,000,000= .00091
.00091/.000036 = 25
Fantastic, are you allowed to prescribe therapeutics like Ivermectin or other anti parasitic meds? Bc we’re not allowed to here in the US.
Apparently some countries do. Especially when there’s literally no side effects or risks in the medicine.
This article from Snopes.com should help us not be too premature about the efficacy of this veterinary product. I doubt that the drug has been used widely enough in Australia, especially in a controlled environment to credit their low rate of infection to this drug.
Can Ivermectin Cure Coronavirus?
The canine heartworm-preventative joined a long list of drugs touted as possible cures for COVID-19.
www.snopes.com
This article from Snopes.com should help us not be too premature about the efficacy of this veterinary product. I doubt that the drug has been used widely enough in Australia, especially in a controlled environment to credit their low rate of infection to this drug.
Can Ivermectin Cure Coronavirus?
The canine heartworm-preventative joined a long list of drugs touted as possible cures for COVID-19.
Yes this article is from 3 months ago. According to the MD in this original video he talks about how much they’ve learned from the research in the last 3 months and how it’s not debatable.
I’m a doctor that hasn’t worn a lab coat since residency. I do local tv PSAs without a coat.
now the stethoscope around the neck?...that’s the image I go for.
Because debate and discussion is the last thing we need when making decisions about a global pandemic.
Ha yeah right. I’m saying this MD says it works and has a mountain of evidence. If you wish to disprove him go ahead. But to sit here and watch Americans we know get Covid and realize we have no treatment when other countries do is pathetic.
Fvck off with that sh*t. The global survival rate for COVID is 98.72% (It's likely closer to 99.1% as not all cases are reported.) Of the 13 people I know that has had COVID, ALL of them had mild to medium symptoms and all recovered fairly quickly. 2 of them are over 65.
Have never seen you on here complaining that the total cancer survival rate for all cancers is only 71.1%.
Obviously you are reading it wrong. The post you cited was about how safe Ivermectin is. Not sure why you want to compare that to cancer.
I'm talking about you throwing a temper tantrum when @Yu Darvish made a little joke about a virus that's almost 100% survivable.
Until you’ve personally known someone that’s died from Covid try your best to be sympathetic to the 300,000 dead Americans. Sorry if I take a joke about this and throw a “temper tantrum”
The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro
Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited…
Yes we are allowed to. No it isn't being prescribed to treat covid to my understanding. That being said I don't covid patients.
To my understanding, evidence exists that demonstrates high efficacy of the drug towards SARS viruses in vitro, however there is little if any quality evidence of effective use in human trials.
Again, this pandemic is best managed by human behaviour, care for one another, and a shared goal, rather than hail Mary pharmacotherapeutics.
Ivermectin is actually an FDA approved drug for humans. It has uses outside of veterinary purposes.This article from Snopes.com should help us not be too premature about the efficacy of this veterinary product. I doubt that the drug has been used widely enough in Australia, especially in a controlled environment to credit their low rate of infection to this drug.
Can Ivermectin Cure Coronavirus?
The canine heartworm-preventative joined a long list of drugs touted as possible cures for COVID-19.
Respectfully, here the US we are being pretty responsible without complete lockdowns. Masks are worn in any public indoor space and no large gatherings since the election that I know of. If I get Covid I’ll go ahead and try your “hail Mary therapeutics” and I’m sure you would too. That’s my whole point. Give me a safe and risk free medicine all day... better than drinking water and getting plenty of rest.
I have my biology degree but truthfully never use it much, if at all. I do however recall my evolutionary biology class. I wrote a paper for a class assignment (it served as a test grade instead of a midterm exam) about parasites and focused on a condition common in poor remote African villages called onchocerciasis (had to google that one again) and recall how IVM is used to cheaply and effectively treat the condition. You're absolutely right that it has uses that aren't veterinary usages.
You're free to do as you please, provided you can find a doctor that'll prescribe it to you. Wouldn't recommend it, but if someone was at the end and wanted to throw the kitchen sink at it, you can't really blame them.
Respectfully, you might be strict, as may those around you, but as a whole, the US has been a basket case in this respect since day 1. I'm not here to rub salt in your wounds, and I know many on this board have been hugely affected by this pandemic. But I've got enough friends over your way, and follow what's going on over there closely enough to know that as a whole, America has not been responsible with regards to lockdowns, and even if it had, there is now endless and ongoing evidence that demonstrates that partial lockdowns are largely ineffective towards such a contagious virus. While its virulence may be relatively low compared with other SARS viruses, it is ultimately devastating on a population level when there is even a small degree of transmission acceptable
Okay so just to be clear. Are your citizens attending school? Shopping at grocery store? Attending outside sports events in small numbers?
Right now, yes. We are reopening because we have had no community cases for approx 6 weeks. Prior to that we had a 3-month lockdown. Kids were schooled via zoom, grocery shopping was permitted with online shopping (either delivered, or delivered to your car at drive through) for at-risk groups. We weren't permitted to be more than 5km from our homes (permits for work, partners, other extenuating circumstances also permitted), and exercise was supposed to be (I'm not aware of it being enforced) for no more than an hour per day. Restaurants could operate for takeaway only, retail was not allowed in-store (most offered online purchasing for delivery/store pickup).
Most importantly, those who were not able to maintain work, or had significant reduction in working hours, received around $750 (approx 500usd) weekly in government stimulus.
This might all sound extreme (it is) but we have reached an incredible goal. I'm sure folks will bark about the economy, but things have picked up rapidly, real estate is soaring, and we are now living some semblance of a normal life.
Again, you're not crusading for the:
655,381 that died of a heart attacks this year. (People make jokes about having a heart attack all the time: like when their team almost loses a game)
606,520 that died of cancer this year.
167,127 that died from accidents this year.
159,486 that died of Chronic lower respiratory diseases this year.
147,810 that died from strokes this year.
127,019 that died from Alzheimer's this year.
Have you crusaded for any of those deaths in any threads on Orangebloods this year? Have you even mentioned any one of those people? Are those deaths less important than people who died of COVID?
Shove your outrage.
No what is horrific is what the politicization of COVID and the lockdowns have done to a MUCH greater number of people than those that have actually died of the disease. The steep rise in suicides, drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, etc. will result in a FAR FAR Greater number of deaths by a longshot than from COVID.
While Australia should definitely be applauded for its response to this pandemic and you’ve been a real voice of reason in this thread medically, I do think it’s difficult to compare countries to each other like the US and Australia. It’s no surprise that island nations with natural borders and have handled the virus remarkably better than others. In the US, just look at Hawaii as an example, by far the best state in terms of virus spread. Lockdowns are much more easily carried out when you can decide who comes and who goes. Also, I think we’d be talking much differently had Australia had such an influx of travel from China and Europe back in Dec/Jan before we really knew how much the virus had been seeded around the world and China was not being honest about it. Of course, none of this excuses the mess that the US has made out of the response in terms of lockdowns, mixed messages, lack of stimulus, etc.
Gordon gecko is in charge of hospitals, medical schools and drug companies.
We should not be surprised.
This thread is interesting.
Obviously there is not a big conspiracy to kill Americans by withholding effective treatments for Covid.
This would be about the 4th or 5th miracle cure so far. Perhaps this one does work, we just now a year into this virus; I am sure there are many things left to learn about it.
Modern medicine has to have a way to regulate and recommend treatment. With no regulation we would have had many millions harmed by taking one of the false cures. During a pandemic the whole earth’s population is at risk and in search of a miracle cures, unlike say pancreatic cancer that only those few with symptoms or a diagnosis affected. In a pandemic it’s vital that medical science more closely regulates treatments while it searches for cures in scientific manner otherwise billions could take a harmful or false cure (which can be harmful in itself.)
It can be frustrating, for instance we have literally had the cure (vaccine) since January. But, it’s vital to proceed with science take our time and do it right.
Obviously there is not a big conspiracy to kill Americans by withholding effective treatments for Covid.
This would be about the 4th or 5th miracle cure so far. Perhaps this one does work, we just now a year into this virus; I am sure there are many things left to learn about it.
Modern medicine has to have a way to regulate and recommend treatment. With no regulation we would have had many millions harmed by taking one of the false cures. During a pandemic the whole earth’s population is at risk and in search of a miracle cures, unlike say pancreatic cancer that only those few with symptoms or a diagnosis affected. In a pandemic it’s vital that medical science more closely regulates treatments while it searches for cures in scientific manner otherwise billions could take a harmful or false cure (which can be harmful in itself.)
It can be frustrating, for instance we have literally had the cure (vaccine) since January. But, it’s vital to proceed with science take our time and do it right.
The study the Dr in the video referenced, did not sound like he was referencing a laboratory study, did you read the study he mentioned was out for peer review?
Or you can go over to Tractor Supply and pick it up. It’s what many use as heart worm prevention. But I might hold off on that for awhile.
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