Johnny Football Documentary

[clob94]

I watched it so you didn't have to.

It's basically "woe is me, I was really talented but my mental illness and addictive personality kept me from achieving greatness. Please feel sorry for me even though I abandoned my friends and family (trading up for rappers and movie stars), beat women, was a habitual cocaine user, a semi-functioning alcoholic prone to blackout drinking, and disregarded the opinion of anyone who tried to get me to better myself as a person."

That's the abridged version.

 

[speedstrength]

I have aggy family members. I asked what kind of numbers Graham Harrell would have put up at A&M with NFL talent all over the O-Line, RB and Mike Evans > Crabtree. But but SEC

 

[clob94]

I have aggy family members. I asked what kind of numbers Graham Harrell would have put up at A&M with NFL talent all over the O-Line, RB and Mike Evans > Crabtree. But but SEC

He had the two best starting tackles in college football. Maybe a top 10 combo of all time. Both first rounders. Both all-americans. Both top 5 picks. He also had a starting guard, Cedric Ogbuehi that went pick 21 in round 1.
3 first rounders on the line.
And of course, anytime he was in trouble he could just chunk it up high anywhere near Mike Evans (who is 6'5) and he'd use his 37" vertical to bring it down.

 

[hillcountryhorn63697005]

Haven't watched the clip. I was told by Kerrville friends that he was great with coaching/helping out with little kids football. Was even better in baseball. Somewhere, things turned south for Manziel...musta started in the Dixie Chicken. 👎

 

[Hoookem722]

I hate the Aggies and Johnny with a passion but to think he wasn't extremely talented despite all that talent he played with is pretty crazy to me. I've seen plenty of QB's play with extremely talented rosters and do nothing at all. Just his rushing numbers from 2012 were insane. 1400 yards and 21 rushing tds.

 

[Texasguy115]

The best part about the documentary was that they mentioned Johnny grew up a Longhorn fan and idolized Vince Young and his style of play. Texas was his dream school, and he basically only went to Aggie because they offered him a full scholarship and Texas didnt. He also talks crap about College Station a few times in the documentary.

You know thats gotta sting for Aggie knowing they were second choice and a backup for their beloved savior Johnny Football!

 

[weevilcatch]

I hate the Aggies and Johnny with a passion but to think he wasn't extremely talented despite all that talent he played with is pretty crazy to me. I've seen plenty of QB's play with extremely talented rosters and do nothing at all. Just his rushing numbers from 2012 were insane. 1400 yards and 21 rushing tds.

Elite athlete, but from a QB skills standpoint he was pretty mid

 

[Hoookem722]

Elite athlete, but from a QB skills standpoint he was pretty mid

I don't disagree but from a college QB standpoint he was really good. He was a 69% completion percentage guy so he was efficient. Anybody could see from a mile away though that his game would not translate to the NFL level. You can only make it so far on athleticism in the NFL as a QB.

 

[speedstrength]

His official combine time was 4.68 so not anywhere near elite speed but the dude was super slippery and had a crazy ability to scramble around an make throws off schedule. Kind of the same stuff that Mahomes does.

What I want to know is how many times he screwed up pre snap or missed reads on open guys. We know he didn't study and watch film so how many times did he have to scramble around and make a crazy play when he missed a simple throw and catch. Graham Harrell put up 5700 yards and 48 touchdowns. What would he have done with better talent at almost every other position on the offense.

 

[Hoookem722]

His official combine time was 4.68 so not anywhere near elite speed but the dude was super slippery and had a crazy ability to scramble around an make throws off schedule. Kind of the same stuff that Mahomes does.

What I want to know is how many times he screwed up pre snap or missed reads on open guys. We know he didn't study and watch film so how many times did he have to scramble around and make a crazy play when he missed a simple throw and catch. Graham Harrell put up 5700 yards and 48 touchdowns. What would he have done with better talent at almost every other position on the offense.

Graham Harrell was one of the smartest QBs i've ever seen. I watched him play a few times in high school and it blew me away each time. He picked our defense apart in that 08 game and that team had a really good secondary.

 

[Texasguy115]

These were great lol

 

[weevilcatch]

It's the Browns fault for drafting his ass. What the hell were they thinking?

 

[Texasguy115]

It's the Browns fault for drafting his ass. What the hell were they thinking?

A lot of his issues were kept private by the Aggies and his agent.

 

[weevilcatch]

A lot of his issues were kept private by the Aggies and his agent.

I think you could probably find out about him being hungover at his effing pro day with a few questions as to why he was throwing passes to dudes with dad bods.

So while yes, you are probably correct in some aspects, I think the Browns also didn't see what was easily seen. I mean my goodness, they drafted Brandon Weeden just a couple years before SMFH.

 

[WRLHookem]

He worked so hard to build a brand, hey he won the Heisman, he will always have a vote and an invitation to the big parties. I don’t doubt he had some mental issues but this reeks to me of a once upon a star hoping for a few more minutes of fame and a few more bucks.

 

[clob94]

He worked so hard to build a brand, hey he won the Heisman, he will always have a vote and an invitation to the big parties. I don’t doubt he had some mental issues but this reeks to me of a once upon a star hoping for a few more minutes of fame and a few more bucks.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Exactly what it is. He wants sympathy. He wants attention. He wants pvssy. He wants free rides. He wants money.

He's trying to bilk those last few hard core aggie big Cigars out of just a little bit more money.

 

[Belldozer1]

His “wife” was ugly as sun. Didn’t she end up getting pregnant by that Nick cannon guy?

 

[clob94]

His “wife” was ugly as sun. Didn’t she end up getting pregnant by that Nick cannon guy?

Bre Tiesi and Johnny Manziel’s Relationship Timeline

Bre Tiesi was married to Johnny Manziel years before she joined the cast of ‘Selling Sunset’ — timeline

www.google.com

 

[weevilcatch]

Bre Tiesi and Johnny Manziel’s Relationship Timeline

Bre Tiesi was married to Johnny Manziel years before she joined the cast of ‘Selling Sunset’ — timeline

www.google.com

2021​

The twosome finalized their divorce in November — and Tiesi celebrated with a cake that read: "I do, I did, I'm officially done" and "divorced at last.”

"Thanks to all my girls for the craziest divorce party,” she wrote via Instagram. “No shade to J, wish you nothing but the best, love ya."


I'm convinced these people have never matured beyond mid adolescence. It is absolutely bizarre behavior. No thanks to fame and fortune.

 

[Hoookem722]

It's the Browns fault for drafting his ass. What the hell were they thinking?

It's well known that Jerry Jones wanted to draft him as well. Luckily Stephen Jones told him he was a moron and they took Zack Martin instead. I'd say after 8 consecutive all pro years in a row they made the right call lol.

 

[weevilcatch]

It's well known that Jerry Jones wanted to draft him as well. Luckily Stephen Jones told him he was a moron and they took Zack Martin instead. I'd say after 8 consecutive all pro years in a row they made the right call lol.

Passed on an obvious bust and drafted a Top 5 OG of all time.

Good choice.

 

[ElDiabloTejano]

Haven't watched the clip. I was told by Kerrville friends that he was great with coaching/helping out with little kids football. Was even better in baseball. Somewhere, things turned south for Manziel...musta started in the Dixie Chicken. 👎

You heard wrong. He was always an a- hole. Banned from 2 different Walmarts (Fred and Kerrville) due to him and friends going in and being a- holes. His motto in football was "win or lose, just booze". He would show up to baseball practice whenever he felt like it, sit in the dugout eating his McDonald's and cutting up, then go out there and practice if he felt like it. So, yeah... he wasn't ever a good dude.

 

[weevilcatch]

You heard wrong. He was always an a- hole. Banned from 2 different Walmarts (Fred and Kerrville) due to him and friends going in and being a- holes. His motto in football was "win or lose, just booze". He would show up to baseball practice whenever he felt like it, sit in the dugout eating his McDonald's and cutting up, then go out there and practice if he felt like it. So, yeah... he wasn't ever a good dude.

Nobody has ever told that kid no, and it blew up big time. Shocker. The real world is undefeated.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Bre Tiesi and Johnny Manziel’s Relationship Timeline

Bre Tiesi was married to Johnny Manziel years before she joined the cast of ‘Selling Sunset’ — timeline

www.google.com

Get divorced have Nick Cannons 8th child from his 8th baby momma hahaha

 

[LongfellowDrew]

LOL JM just played the game. He got his money in college and from the NFL. Do I feel sorry for him nope do I feel sorry for the NCAA or NFL a BIG NOPE!

 

[Etlonghorn]

Nobody has ever told that kid no, and it blew up big time. Shocker. The real world is undefeated.

It’s a family tradition. Paul (his Dad) was the same way.

 

[clob94]

There's a dude in here that lived on Kerrville for quite some time that probably had a run in or two with Johnny and/or his family....

And he's been eerily quiet on this topic....

He probably thought we wouldn't notice.... but I notice stuff......

Where you at............. @freeper

 

[hillcountryhorn63697005]

You heard wrong. He was always an a- hole. Banned from 2 different Walmarts (Fred and Kerrville) due to him and friends going in and being a- holes. His motto in football was "win or lose, just booze". He would show up to baseball practice whenever he felt like it, sit in the dugout eating his McDonald's and cutting up, then go out there and practice if he felt like it. So, yeah... he wasn't ever a good dude.

Ok. I'll recheck what I was told by a friend that was an administrator at KISD during that time. Maybe he has, as Paul Harvey used to say, "...the rest of the story." But, friends did have little sons play in the Kville youth football and they did like him as a coach or being there. He messed up in other areas I guess.

 

[freeper]

There's a dude in here that lived on Kerrville for quite some time that probably had a run in or two with Johnny and/or his family....

And he's been eerily quiet on this topic....

He probably thought we wouldn't notice.... but I notice stuff......

Where you at............. @freeper

Always nice to be noticed. @clob94 if this forum was socialist paradise like 9.95land, I would ask the politburo to award you a Hero of the OBFootball Forums Banner, First Class, just for taking the hit so the rest of the peasantry around here didn't need to subject themselves to a Johnny Football hagiography. You literally fell on a streaming digital grenade for us.

The reason I've remained silent is simple, didn't have much to say. As a retired LEO I will allow this much. I got paid for a quarter century to make observations about people and places. When I arrived in Kerrville, before CoVID, I loved Chicken Express. Always good takeout at the drive-thru. Then one-day I went inside the joint on Sidney Baker, couple miles south of I-10. There on the wall was a mural depicting everyone's favorite aggie bad boy. Ruined the meal for me and then after CoVID their product and service just fell off a cliff. YMMV with your local franchise.

Seriously though, Kerrville was definitely aggie country. I met far more delusional cultists than Longhorn fans there. Funny thing though, none of the aggies I worked with or met, EVER brought up Johnny M. It's like he's disappeared down the memory hole, his personal behavior since leaving town having wiped out any lingering good memories he left behind.

 

[clob94]

Crazy how a person's legacy can be reflected in the small town they left behind.
It's almost as if he felt he outgrew Kerrville- and now Kerrville feels they've outgrown him.