ND line down to -3.5
- Thread starter Longhorn Crazy
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Return starters at
QB - Kizer / Zaire
RB - Folston / Adams
WR - Hunter
WR - Robinson
TE - Jones
TE - Smythe
OT - McGlinchey
OG - Nelson
DE - Rochell
DT - J. Jones
DT - Cage
LB - Onwaulu
CB - Luke
S - Tranquill
In what world was Butler a starting CB?
He was behind Russell last year for the #2 CB job and was behind Watkins and Crawford this spring.
He was the #4 or #5 CB on the team
Or starting RB was hurt in the 3rd carry of the game against Texas
One of those NFL Draft picks you just mentioned was actually his backup (technically 3rd String, entering Fall Camp)
And once again they think their WRs are something with very little experience and Robinson is now gone which leaves Hunter as the only one. So it's not a PUSH anymore or never was with your WR and OUR DBU
Not sure how you figure that, as you still have little to no proof at DB (but have talent) just as we do at WR
Losing Robinson was likely, and hurts early in the season (Texas game) as he was going to be the more experienced of a "co-starting tandem" with a pair of RS Frosh.
Who is the proven DB(s) that make that matchup and edge for Texas?
If you weren't so far stuck up your a$$ you would know from other threads
I know your excited about Davis and Hill, and are hoping that safeties either step up or new layers take over.
But none of those players are really proven on any significant level, at all.
In fact all of them struggled significantly last year.
Again, who do you see Ila's proven, and what's the proof you're referencing...or do you just see "very talented but unproven" exactly as most of NDs WR core is??
Davis and Hill, you will hear their names and often. They're plenty proven and now seasoned.
Really? They were FRESHMAN last year TRUE FRESHMAN. Why do you think they struggled?! You seriously have no logic.
How are either of them proven??
They led one of the worst passing defenses in any P5 conference and further, they were especially ineffective against most teams with competent QB play.
(Basically all but Oklahoma)
And that's just the CB position.
Who's the proven stud at the S of NB position that give Texas the edge here?
This match up is very fairly termed a push, at this point.
Both units are very talented but very unproven
Yes they were, and they struggled.
Having an excuse for why they struggled is not even close to the same as them being proven studs.
My logic is incredibly clear and constent:
Texas is talented, but very unproven at DB
(in fact the DBs struggled MIGHTILY when they played last year)
That is very similar to what ND is at WR (talented but very unproven)
Thus, this matchup looks very close
Nothing to sweat if you see it as a push. Davis and Hill will be All-Americans. The Saftey position will be good with Boyd, Locke, Elliot, Jones and Brown. Young, but a legit group.
Apparently it's enough for fellow Longhorns to start throwing temper tantrums and be completely unwilling to discuss the positions or the game at all.
So there's that....
And I wouldn't be surprised if one of Hill/Davis get All-Conference recognition on some level, perhaps even both make some level of team/HM.
But I sincerely doubt either one are major contenders for All-American honors in 2016.
They're no where near the level of players like Desmond King, Adoree Jackson, Jalen Tabor, Lewis, White, Fitzpatrick, etc.
Good Lord could you possibly be any bigger of a condescending prick?
Freshmen DBs in their VERY FIRST college game tend to struggle against the second 1st round NFL receiver taken.
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How is pointing out that DBs who struggled all season aren't proven studs, but at best are "talented but unproven and struggles last year" condecesnding?
Does analysis that you're actually agreeing with normally bother you this much??
And was Fuller the only WR they played all year?
Something tells me the games against far less talented teams (like Iowa State) had somethings to do with Gexas finishing as one of the worst defenses in all of the P5 Conferences last year.......right???
Also, for what it's worth, teams like Clemson, Temple, UMass, Boston College, and Wake Forset all kept Fuller below a 100 yards and 1 TD
But Texas let him get nearly 150 Yards and 2 TDs
I don't think saying:
"Texas's DBs look fairly talented, but haven't come close to proving themselves as studs" is even a little bit unfair
(in fact, it lets their poor play on the field slide in favor of their physical talent)
Thus calling the matchup a PUSH
Did I say 2016? I said they will be All-Americans. They were mentioned for Big 12 honors in 2015. Hill has the biggest upside in my opinion.
Hill received a great education on the field last year against guys like 1st rounders Corey Coleman and Josh Doctson.
Boyd will also play corner and we have a talented 6th year Senior (Sheroid Evans) as well. Not just Hill and Davis but talent to stay fresh.
Hill received a great education on the field last year against guys like 1st rounders Corey Coleman and Josh Doctson.
Boyd will also play corner and we have a talented 6th year Senior (Sheroid Evans) as well. Not just Hill and Davis but talent to stay fresh.
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Facts?
Does that in anyway dispute what I've been saying??
ND reruns 1 starting WR, loses 2 starters. We also lose guys who procided depth (Carlisle and Robinson)
He was.
But Jones was a starting DT in 2013 and 2014, but was injured in 2015...and Cage started in his place.
We now return Jones (2013/2014 Starter) and Cage (2015 Starter).
This occurred at several other positions, due to insane bad luck with injuries during the last 2 seasons.
The positions would be:
QB
RB
TE
DT
LB
NB
S
Holy shit decker...... do you hear that? Its the sound of nobody caring what you have to say anymore.... you are in idiot and this is starting to get boring with you
If football is boring to you, that's no sweat off my back
Feel free to move along
Every year from February to July fans really build their teams up to be world beaters or better than they actually are. The good thing? Here in a couple of months we will find out who are the contenders and the pretenders.
Not no Pretenders in Austin! When them big half-backs starts rollin your defense to the water bottles then you will know that your in trouble Better be worrying about Houston beating ya...lol
Hook'em
Foreman and Warren each touched the ball 3 times last September versus the Irish. That 1-2 punch is going to pound the rock this September and they are much more physical than Gray whom had 8 carries for 40 yards.
Don't forget about Johnson as well we haven't seen his full potential with him getting hurt last year. That boy has some moves.
The issue with your run-game against ND in 2015 had more to do with falling behind early and completely abandoning it, than anything else.
Foreman/Warren actually accounted for nearly 50% of Texas's RB touches in that game
There just weren't many RB touches for Texas, as you guys were pushing to catch up from early on.
I mean, if you wanted to look at offensive problems overall, it was more of a lack of talent at QB and OL combined with youth at WR/TE and being poorly coached and poorly schemed..................basically, not good
I was just talking about the run game.
When all 3 RBs combine for 14 touches....that's not good.
But the reason that happened in the ND game, was that you feel behind quickly and had to go away from that part of the game to try and catch up
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