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TheDecker said:
Foreman/Warren actually accounted for nearly 50% of Texas's RB touches in that game
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A) Of course you're leaving out the 15 rushes from non RBs to dishonestly make your point.
B) They had a combined 6 out of 29 total rushing attempts by our team so no they weren't a big part.
C) We had 29 rushing attempts vs 23 passing attempts so no it wasn't abandoned for the pass.

You're full of shit per usual. Fact.
 
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TheDecker said:
I mean, if you wanted to look at offensive problems overall, it was more of a lack of talent at QB and OL combined with youth at WR/TE and being poorly coached and poorly schemed..................basically, not good

I was just talking about the run game.

When all 3 RBs combine for 14 touches....that's not good.
But the reason that happened in the ND game, was that you feel behind quickly and had to go away from that part of the game to try and catch up
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The whole thing was a disaster. It wont be this go around. They'll look like a formidable opponent at the very least.

Burt and Johnson will stretch the field with Foreman among others across the middle of the field which will create space for the run game. They (ND) wont be able to load the box this year and simply collapse at the line. Whether or not Shane starts or finishes, it will change the game.


Since your a stats guru, 3 receivers caught balls, only 8 balls were caught, out of those 8, 6 were caught by one player. The OC never should have still had control of the playbook.

...and yes the TE/QB sucks but he has strengths the OC went against.


Wheeee


While the Irish typically have Texas number, they're not some juggernaut that cannot be toppled.
i think it will be a much-much better football game.
 
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Scholz said:
A) Of course you're leaving out the 15 rushes from non RBs to dishonestly make your point.
B) They had a combined 6 out of 29 total rushing attempts by our team so no they weren't a big part.
C) We had 29 rushing attempts vs 23 passing attempts so no it wasn't abandoned for the pass.

You're full of shit per usual. Fact.
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Handoffs to RBs were abandoned in favor of a QB change, scheme change, and play calling change......in an attempt to catch up after falling behind early

Also, that WAS Texas's version of abandoning the run
ND Game - 55% Run / 45% Pass
2015 Averaged - 68% Run / 32% Pass

So no, as usual my point is based in the actual facts
 
We rushed the ball more than we passed it, lying POS. No, we did most certainly not abandon the run as you previously lied about. And those 2 only rushed it 6 out of 29 times. So no, they weren't a major part of the run game as you previously also tried to lie about.
 
TexExSpur said:
The whole thing was a disaster. It wont be this go around. They'll look like a formidable opponent at the very least.

Burt and Johnson will stretch the field with Foreman among others across the middle of the field which will create space for the run game. They (ND) wont be able to load the box this year and simply collapse at the line. Whether or not Shane starts or finishes, it will change the game.


Since your a stats guru, 3 receivers caught balls, only 8 balls were caught, out of those 8, 6 were caught by one player. The OC never should have still had control of the playbook.

...and yes the TE/QB sucks but he has strengths the OC went against.


Wheeee


While the Irish typically have Texas number, they're not some juggernaut that cannot be toppled.
i think it will be a much-much better football game.
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Burt is a good player, but is still developing. It's not like he's a Top10 WR in CFB at this point (or even close)

Johnson has potential, but again, is going to need a lot of development
(since he hasn't taken a single CFB snap)

How much ND needs to respect the passing game (and not stack the box) is going to be primarily influenced by how consistent and dangerous Buechele is able to be

If he's very, very good for a True Frosh's 1st game.....we'll have a harder time stacking the box.

If not, I would expect a fairly heavy slant against the run game and attacking the backfield from ND's defenses
 
Scholz said:
We rushed the ball more than we passed it, lying POS. No, we did most certainly not abandon the run as you previously lied about. And those 2 only rushed it 6 out of 29 times. So no, they weren't a major part of the run game as you previously also tried to lie about.
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LOL......wrong

You ran the ball FAR LESS than usual (55% v. 68%), meaning that you DID ABANDON your standard run game.

And Foreman/Warren had nearly half the RB touches.......so they were as involved in the run game as most RBs would be, given the situation.

Again, the issue there was that Texas fell behind too quickly to really see what would have happened
 
TheDecker said:
Burt is a good player, but is still developing. It's not like he's a Top10 WR in CFB at this point (or even close)

Johnson has potential, but again, is going to need a lot of development
(since he hasn't taken a single CFB snap)

How much ND needs to respect the passing game (and not stack the box) is going to be primarily influenced by how consistent and dangerous Buechele is able to be

If he's very, very good for a True Frosh's 1st game.....we'll have a harder time stacking the box.

If not, I would expect a fairly heavy slant against the run game and attacking the backfield from ND's defenses
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Shane will keep them honest and Mr. Burt made the National finals for hurdles, he can stretch the field. He's under the ball when targeted. ESPN named John Burt Texas' X-Factor for 2016. Somebody believes in him, lol. The freshman was targeted 52 times for 28 receptions with a mess at QB hurling the pigskin.
 
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TheDecker said:
LOL......wrong

You ran the ball FAR LESS than usual (55% v. 68%), meaning that you DID ABANDON your standard run game.

And Foreman/Warren had nearly half the RB touches.......so they were as involved in the run game as most RBs would be, given the situation.

Again, the issue there was that Texas fell behind too quickly to really see what would have happened
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Keep spinning, moron. You're moving the goalposts and changing your story. You're a dishonest person.
 
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TexExSpur said:
Shane will keep them honest and Mr. Burt made the National finals for hurdles, he can stretch the field. He's under the ball when targeted. ESPN named John Burt Texas' X-Factor for 2016. Somebody believes in him, lol.
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Being the best WR (or play maker in general) for a team, or being a track runner, doesn't make someone a top level WR nationally.

I think lots of people like his upside, but that doesn't put him anywhere near the level of the top WRs in CFB:
  • JuJu Smith
  • Calvin Ridley
  • Mike Williams
  • Christian Kirk
  • KD Cannon
  • etc
 
Scholz said:
Keep spinning, moron. You're a dishonest person.
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So you didn't run the ball FAR LESS than normal?
You didn't completely abandon your typical run game, in favor a QB-centric run game?
This didn't all start after you fell behind early?

You issue is that you assume things you don't like must be lies
 
TheDecker said:
Being the best WR (or play maker in general) for a team, or being a track runner, doesn't make someone a top level WR nationally.

I think lots of people like his upside, but that doesn't put him anywhere near the level of the top WRs in CFB:
  • JuJu Smith
  • Calvin Ridley
  • Mike Williams
  • Christian Kirk
  • KD Cannon
  • etc
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Cannon didn't do much without a QB, chief. Let's see what Burt does with a QB at the helm. Kirk is a game changer, no doubt.

JuJu- Fresh. targeted 81/54 receptions, Soph. targeted 138/89 receptions

Calvin- Fresh. targeted 126/ 89 receptions

Mike- Fresh. targeted 26/20 receptions, Soph. targeted 92/57 receptions
Jr. targeted 2/2 receptions

Kirk- Fresh. targeted 132/80 receptions

KD - Fresh. targeted 93/58 receptions, Soph. targeted 91/50 receptions


Somebody has to get you the football!

Leader in the clubhouse for Texas:

John Burt Fresh. targeted 52/28 receptions... No QB
 
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TheDecker said:
You ran the ball FAR LESS than usual (55% v. 68%), meaning that you DID ABANDON your standard run game.
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far less than usual?....did you just say far less than usual?...Decker...that would even be a dumb comment for a aggy to make!...The first game of the season?...and to that point in the season our usual was what?...then after that game we changed OC and game plans, but the previous game was against the usual??? Your good at stupid...I give you that...no half assing it there...
 
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Old horn I like your posts but why do you guys always feel the need to work in comments about A&M? Just curious. I know you guys hate them but why obsess with them? They are nobodies
 
In fact, lying domer asshole, here's how we "completely abandoned the run" (your words) after getting down. You're a liar. Fact.

Down 7-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 35
(6:17 - 1st) Tyrone Swoopes run for 6 yds to the Texas 41
2nd and 4 at TEX 41
(5:55 - 1st) D'Onta Foreman run for 3 yds to the Texas 44
3rd and 1 at TEX 44
(5:28 - 1st) D'Onta Foreman run for a loss of 1 yard to the Texas 43

Down 14-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 22
(0:50 - 1st) Johnathan Gray run for 11 yds to the Texas 33 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at TEX 33
(0:00 - 1st) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 35
1st and 10 at TEX 45
(14:33 - 2nd) Heard, Jerrod rush for 3 yards to the TEXAS48, PENALTY TEXAS holding (Flowers, Sedrick) 10 yards to the TEXAS35, NO PLAY.
1st and 20 at TEX 35
(14:11 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 6 yds to the Texas 41
1st and 10 at TEX 8
(11:01 - 2nd) Johnathan Gray run for 5 yds to the Texas 13

Down 17-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 24
(7:30 - 2nd) Daje Johnson run for 9 yds to the Texas 33
3rd and 9 at TEX 25
(6:30 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 4 yds to the Texas 29
1st and 10 at TEX 18
(1:52 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 7 yds to the Texas 25
1st and 10 at TEX 45
(1:17 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 5 yds to the 50 yard line
3rd and 10 at ND 35
(0:05 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 1 yd to the NDame 34
1st and 10 at TEX 24
(14:42 - 3rd) Johnathan Gray run for 4 yds to the Texas 28
1st and 10 at ND 24
(9:45 - 3rd) Chris Warren III run for 1 yd to the NDame 23
2nd and 9 at ND 23
(9:04 - 3rd) Chris Warren III run for no gain to the NDame 23

Down 24-3:
2nd and 7 at TEX 22
(5:09 - 3rd) Johnathan Gray run for 4 yds to the Texas 26
3rd and 3 at TEX 26
(5:09 - 3rd) Daje Johnson run for a loss of 5 yards to the Texas 21 TEXAS Penalty, Personal Foul (Sedrick Flowers) to the Texas 11

Down 31-3:
2nd and 21 at TEX 12
(1:10 - 3rd) D'Onta Foreman run for 3 yds to the Texas 15
3rd and 18 at TEX 15
(0:39 - 3rd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 2 yds to the Texas 17

Down 38-3:
1st and 10 at TEX 18
(11:30 - 4th) Chris Warren III run for 3 yds to the Texas 21
1st and 10 at TEX 14
(5:15 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 16
2nd and 8 at TEX 16
(4:55 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 10 yds to the Texas 26 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at TEX 26
(4:40 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 28
 
TheDecker said:
So you didn't run the ball FAR LESS than normal?
You didn't completely abandon your typical run game, in favor a QB-centric run game?
This didn't all start after you fell behind early?

You issue is that you assume things you don't like must be lies
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No, your issue is that you're changing your story after faceplanting and then lying about it. You said, "completely abandoned the run". You're a liar.
 
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TexExSpur said:
Cannon didn't do much without a QB, chief. Let's see what Burt does with a QB at the helm. Kirk is a game changer, no doubt.

JuJu- Fresh. targeted 81/54 receptions, Soph. targeted 138/89 receptions

Calvin- Fresh. targeted 126/ 89 receptions

Mike- Fresh. targeted 26/20 receptions, Soph. targeted 92/57 receptions, Jr. targeted 2/2 receptions

Kirk- Fresh. targeted 132/80 receptions

KD - Fresh. targeted 93/58 receptions, Soph. targeted 91/50 receptions


Somebody has to get you the football!

Leader in the clubhouse for Texas:

John Burt Fresh. targeted 52/28 receptions... No QB
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I'm not denying that Burt needs a better QB...but that doesn't change the fact about where he's at as a WR right now

Also, for an actual game....it's not relevant to compare Burt to the younger seasons from CBF's top WRs. That would be relevant for discussing his long term potential, raw talent, etc.

It would be more relevant to compare where Burt is right now to where those top WRs are right now.....since those are the players that will be taking part in CFB this year
(along with Burt)
 
oldhorn2 said:
far less than usual?....did you just say far less than usual?...Decker...that would even be a dumb comment for a aggy to make!...The first game of the season?...and to that point in the season our usual was what?...then after that game we changed OC and game plans, but the previous game was against the usual??? Your good at stupid...I give you that...no half assing it there...
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Just because you're usual was after the ND game doesn't make it any less usual
 
Delta Bravo in the house... Of course it matters when talking about his ability and talent. If the kid was targeted 90 times, his stats would match more than half of the candidates you listed. Scheme matters as does QB play. Unless you're some sort of liberal prick attempting to twist stats to fit your agenda.
 
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Scholz said:
In fact, lying domer asshole, here's how we "completely abandoned the run" (your words) after getting down. You're a liar. Fact.

Down 7-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 35
(6:17 - 1st) Tyrone Swoopes run for 6 yds to the Texas 41
2nd and 4 at TEX 41
(5:55 - 1st) D'Onta Foreman run for 3 yds to the Texas 44
3rd and 1 at TEX 44
(5:28 - 1st) D'Onta Foreman run for a loss of 1 yard to the Texas 43

Down 14-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 22
(0:50 - 1st) Johnathan Gray run for 11 yds to the Texas 33 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at TEX 33
(0:00 - 1st) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 35
1st and 10 at TEX 45
(14:33 - 2nd) Heard, Jerrod rush for 3 yards to the TEXAS48, PENALTY TEXAS holding (Flowers, Sedrick) 10 yards to the TEXAS35, NO PLAY.
1st and 20 at TEX 35
(14:11 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 6 yds to the Texas 41
1st and 10 at TEX 8
(11:01 - 2nd) Johnathan Gray run for 5 yds to the Texas 13

Down 17-0:
1st and 10 at TEX 24
(7:30 - 2nd) Daje Johnson run for 9 yds to the Texas 33
3rd and 9 at TEX 25
(6:30 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 4 yds to the Texas 29
1st and 10 at TEX 18
(1:52 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 7 yds to the Texas 25
1st and 10 at TEX 45
(1:17 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 5 yds to the 50 yard line
3rd and 10 at ND 35
(0:05 - 2nd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 1 yd to the NDame 34
1st and 10 at TEX 24
(14:42 - 3rd) Johnathan Gray run for 4 yds to the Texas 28
1st and 10 at ND 24
(9:45 - 3rd) Chris Warren III run for 1 yd to the NDame 23
2nd and 9 at ND 23
(9:04 - 3rd) Chris Warren III run for no gain to the NDame 23

Down 24-3:
2nd and 7 at TEX 22
(5:09 - 3rd) Johnathan Gray run for 4 yds to the Texas 26
3rd and 3 at TEX 26
(5:09 - 3rd) Daje Johnson run for a loss of 5 yards to the Texas 21 TEXAS Penalty, Personal Foul (Sedrick Flowers) to the Texas 11

Down 31-3:
2nd and 21 at TEX 12
(1:10 - 3rd) D'Onta Foreman run for 3 yds to the Texas 15
3rd and 18 at TEX 15
(0:39 - 3rd) Tyrone Swoopes run for 2 yds to the Texas 17

Down 38-3:
1st and 10 at TEX 18
(11:30 - 4th) Chris Warren III run for 3 yds to the Texas 21
1st and 10 at TEX 14
(5:15 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 16
2nd and 8 at TEX 16
(4:55 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 10 yds to the Texas 26 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at TEX 26
(4:40 - 4th) Johnathan Gray run for 2 yds to the Texas 28
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So in there 2nd half you ran the ball a grand total of 11 times, while passing the ball 15 times.
(You were only down by ~2 TDs entering the 2nd half)

So your 2nd half run pass run/pass breakdown
Run - 42%
Pass - 58%
But during the regular season you avast aged 60%+ Rushing plays....

And you don't think you abandoned the run???

Do you even think before you throw temper tantrum after temper tantrum??
 
TheDecker said:
So in there 2nd half you ran the ball a grand total of 11 times, while passing the ball 15 times.
(You were only down by ~2 TDs entering the 2nd half)

So your 2nd half run pass run/pass breakdown
Run - 42%
Pass - 58%
But during the regular season you avast aged 60%+ Rushing plays....

And you don't think you abandoned the run???

Do you even think before you throw temper tantrum after temper tantrum??
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No we didn't "completely abandon the run" like you claimed. Something you don't have enough character to own up to. Anything else?
 
And we ran the ball 24 times while being behind but please more cherry picking stats. Guess honesty doesn't make your case but you're not man enough to admit you're wrong.
 
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Scholz said:
No we didn't "completely abandon the run" like you claimed. Something you don't have enough character to own up to. Anything else?
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So you don't consider cutting your run/pass ration by nearly 50% is abandoning the run?

Do you hate math, or just not understand it??
 
Scholz said:
And we ran the ball 24 times while being behind but please more cherry picking stats. Guess honesty doesn't make your case but you're not man enough to admit you're wrong.
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An entire half is cherry picking stats, from a single game???

The vast majority of your rushing attempts occurred when you were within 2 TDs
(not very far behind)

Like I said, in the 2nd half you were far behind.......and you abandoned the run
 
No, we didn't abandon the run. You're simply a low character individual who can't admit he's wrong. Carry on.
 
More on Burt...

He was a top 15 ranked WR coming out of HS. Says plenty about how good Burt IS.

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Fo...kings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=WR

While I like this kid, Johnson will end up being the next big WR out of Texas to the NFL at 6'6" 205 and terrific hands as well as agility. Score all day!

Although, I look forward to seeing how Gilbert utilizes some of these other youngsters as well.

SO-Deandre McNeal 6'2"/227
SO-Ryan Newsome 5'8"/166 slot
FR-Reggie Hemphill 6'1"/180
FR-Davvion Curtis - track speed 5'11"/180
FR-Lil'Jordan Humphrey 6'4"/200
 
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I hear ya Spur....but how are you gonna keep the ball away from Lil Jordon?...Big 12 DC's are gonna be sweating the next several years....
 
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